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Smith117 -> RE: the biker (4/25/2008 5:01:08 AM)
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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne
wow......whoda thunk a thread could go this far off my intention.....
.........it was from that frame of mind i posted this, hoping it might remind folks to pay attention to the road.
I believe it happened because you chose to paint bikers as the hapless victims, thus leading many to highlight a few of their own experiences with them. If your original intent was to tell people to be safe "in general," the old tired "watch out for the innocent bikers" was probably the wrong way to go.
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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne
id rather be woken up by loud pipes than ride next to someone talking on a cell phone, or meet them coming straight at me on a road.
This is QUITE apples-to-oranges. Cell phone talkers don't usually wake you up...on the road, because you're already awake. Loud pipes are just loud for the sake of being loud, as myself and others have basically proven here. If you want a more accurate comparisson to say "you'd rather this than that," you have to say something like "I'd rather have bikers darting around me in heavy traffic than ride next to someone on a cell phone."
And if you 'were' to say that, I would then counter with:
"At least the cell phone talker isn't changing lanes once per second (seemingly) or driving at excessive speeds in between cars on the road. They may pay little attention to the road, but for the most part, if you realize the cell talker is there, you can at least predict that she's not paying attention and can react accordingly by simply moving away from her. A biker darting in and out of traffic forces a driver to pay more attention to a smaller, faster, vehicle over a larger, more dangerous one, simply because the smaller, faster vehicle changes position so fast you can't predict reasonably where he's going to be at a given moment. All that needs to happen is for the biker to 'get bored' waiting behind you and then try and dart around you suddenly while you were already in the middle of changing lanes into a lane you previously saw to be clear, but now is not do to the impatience of the biker.
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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne
im just amazed that the post made some folks minds go to oh shit lemme trash bikers......truckers.....drivers.....wtfe.
It might not have gone there if they didn't interpret the original post as trashing everyone else. Bikers are not simply innocent victims. They have their annoying and dangerous quirks just like anyone else.
I'll now relate just one experience I had a few years ago:
I was sitting at a light, two sport bikes behind me. We were all in the lane to turn left at the light, nowhere else to go from this particular lane as it was a "T" intersection.
The light changed, and I began to turn. We were in lane 2 of the road we were on. Lanes 1 and 2 could only go left, lane 3 could only go right. As I made my turn, I began to get into lane 3 of the road we were turning onto, the bikers decided they didn't want to wait and because they were on sport bikes, they didn't feel they had to.
So as I drifted over to the lane I wanted, both of these idiots darted around me, with only a foot or two to spare and jumped ahead.
I "saw" these bikers. I planned for them and I knew they were there. I also "saw" that the lane I was going into WAS empty and that I had the right of way. What I didn't count on, nearly to their detriment, was that they were going to get 'bored' waiting on my 'big car' to go and suddenly that empty lane wasn't empty anymore. Had I been drifting into that lane any faster, they'd have eaten pavement, and all because they got bored and didn't feel as though they should have to wait in line like everyone else.
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