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Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:14:13 AM

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I seem to be not quite understanding the entire concept of female supremacy. It is obvious from a purely genetic standpoint that not all females are superior to all other males. It is also obvious that The Alpha male will never surrender to The Alpha female unless he is inferior in which case he could most likely not hold the status of Alpha male. It is also obvious that males are more aggressive, less likely to submit, and more likely to challenge the hierarchy due to the fact that they have higher testosterone levels.
How is this supposed to work out in society? Am I missing something?

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:44:54 AM

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Someone emailed me this answer:
Female supremacy is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of mainstream society. The theory is that women are higher in stamina and intelligence, but more emotionally driven, while men are more logic-driven, and our logic has led us to more wars.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:46:50 AM

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I respond:
The genetic desire to replicate our genes and eradicate foreign genes coupled with limited necessary resources confounded with religious belief, unwillingness to accept other cultures, and thirst for power have caused most wars. The desire to replicate our genes is why men were traditionally killed and women captured or raped. Granted, this would be somewhat muted if men did not declare war, but not dissolved.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:50:35 AM

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Neither gender is superior. Humans all have their strengths and their weaknesses. Some are weak, some are strong, it just depends upon your definition of the words. I think if we stopped focusing on what makes either gender "superior" and put more effort into equality (for those that desire it) and fixing our broken world, society would be much better off.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 1:06:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

Neither gender is superior. Humans all have their strengths and their weaknesses. Some are weak, some are strong, it just depends upon your definition of the words. I think if we stopped focusing on what makes either gender "superior" and put more effort into equality (for those that desire it) and fixing our broken world, society would be much better off.

~Lashra

I agree, I am neither racist or sexist. I do think the women's liberation movement should have proceeded just a bit more slowly as society was not quite ready to suddenly change the social structure.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 1:27:02 AM

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My understanding is that it is mostly about creating a 'world within a world' where women are presumed superior. Just another twist to life's rich pattern. Fine if that's all it is.

But if women, or men, truly believe their innate superiority by gender, through ignorance, superstition, religion or politics; that's a problem for the rest of us.

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I seem to be not quite understanding the entire concept of female supremacy. It is obvious from a purely genetic standpoint that not all females are superior to all other males. It is also obvious that The Alpha male will never surrender to The Alpha female unless he is inferior in which case he could most likely not hold the status of Alpha male. It is also obvious that males are more aggressive, less likely to submit, and more likely to challenge the hierarchy due to the fact that they have higher testosterone levels.
How is this supposed to work out in society? Am I missing something?

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 1:33:56 AM

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Oh, I see. So it is not an actual philosophy but instead a way of life? I must have misunderstood. I was wondering how they planned to pull that off, lol. It would most likely require genetically reengineering the entire species.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 4:31:38 AM

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Womens liberation is a sudden movement???? Someone has had their head in the sand for a long time. Sounds like someone needs to read some history books. Damm. Im making the assumption that they can read.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 5:47:30 AM

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Short answer before I run.... As 'Conan the Barbarian' said "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." Strength is gained through adversity. While the African people were enslaved by Europeans for a hundred years, the Africans and Europeans enslaved thier own people for thousands of years. Man has enslaved Woman since the dawn of time... never knowing that like the hammer on the blade, they were only forging stronger steel.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 6:01:13 AM

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You made a good point - women are not genetically superior to men, though neither are they inferior. However, you missed the point when you said that an Alpha male will never surrender to the Alpha female.

This is where the mind comes in. There are times when it is good to stop being the tough guy who is always in charge and needs to handle the minutest of life's problems without ever making a mistake (how men often feel). There can be a huge relief in turning over the reins and letting someone else take over. Does that make you less of a man? Not at all. If anything it probably also brings with it empathy which leads to you being a better person. The fact that it is more difficult for a male to submit is what brings about the sweetness of it when it does happen.

Some people enjoy feeling that one gender is supreme over the other. I see this as a kink just as much as someone wanting to be spanked - it is a preference for some and not for others. The fact is that neither gender does well on their own; they need the opposite to full. Think of the Yin Yang symbol - it takes two opposites with a little spec of each other to create the true balance. Maybe that little dot in the male side is the part that craves to submit.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 6:02:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

The theory is that women are higher in stamina and intelligence, but more emotionally driven, while men are more logic-driven, and our logic has led us to more wars.

Its not a very good theory either, nor is it even close to accurate. Our brains are either female minded or male minded, regardless of our outershall you could be female with a male mind and vice versa. So what is female and male in that situation? There has been countless research where by men with female minds, can multi-task and females with a male mind can think better "logic" than the female mind of a male etc.

So it is near impossible to class female and male as different. The intelligence aspect is totally wrong also. Sure women are doing way better than men in education, but there are 2 outside reasons for this! Firstly guys don't like reading as much as women, and that is the most common approach in schools, and secondly, men just cannot be bothered, but that doesn't make them less intelligent. We just don't mature as fast as women so school is a joke to us. But by the time collage started, I had noticed men started to actually work and not mess around. But due to their immaturity of the years prior to it, even if they did good they won't do as good because they missed out from earlier years of learning.

How ever I know many guys who sit on a pc and learn a specialist skill like programming/graphic design or what ever it is without the need of school, and end up getting an insanely good paid job from it, so men can equally do as well as women but school just is not the place for them anymore.

All my skills music/programming/internet design...I never learnt any of it in school. Just can't sit listening to some one yapping away and reading books, I need the freedom to teach myself. And to be fair, ask any company which requires people with these specialist skills.... they will all say that they prefer some one with 4 years work experience in that field who can learn on the job, rather than some one who stays in university to get a degree in it and then start work.

So all in all we are all the same. But we have different needs. But not all are needs ever available so you have to improvise.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 11:39:42 AM

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Greetings,

To begin with ... to the OP ... do you even see the misogynistic overtones to your first posts? If not, and I really think you don't see it, then perhaps you should take a hard look at your underlying assumptions about women.

As to the "who is superior" question. Neither gender is superior to the other. Neither gender is more logical or more emotionally intuitive simply because of gender. What has been discovered is that there are greater differences within a gender than between the genders. What this means is that on the spectrum of .... ohh, say physical strength, the difference between the strongest man and the weakest man is greater than the difference between the average man and average woman. The same goes for being emotionally intuitive or any other stereotypical gender characteristic.

I try to take people for who they are and what their strengths are. Though I try to see past gender stereotypes, I was raised in this society and thus do fall into the trap of making assumptions about gender when I shouldn't. That being said, I also try to see past this indoctrination to the see the real person and not the stereotype.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:17:28 PM

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When people throw around generalist statements, it just chaps My bootie----first of all a remark about the alpha male NEVER submitting is crap--its done all the time when needs finances, family situations or CHOICE warrants it--and I hardly think any alpha male that adapts to that scenario is inferior--what a gender bashing comment---and if we have some thing calamatic happen in any country, any society, it could indeed become a realistic scenario---never say never---surely you are not equating female Dominants to female supremacy--they are NOT one in the same and many Dominas do not believe in female supremacy as a rule, many like Myself ,believe in the supremacy of the best person for the task ( note I said TASK not life, world, country, etc etc).

IMHO, both genders are superior as they are equal halves of a whole---the sad thing is countries that still do not underdstand this and insist on keeping the women enslaved or supressed as their countries die around them and people with ideas like you have presented.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 12:37:40 PM

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To understand how and why Females in any mammal species are superior, simply ask yourself this: why are we males born with nipples?

Look at the chromosomes. XX vs. Xy makes it pretty obvious. Females are superior because they represent the entire human being. The male is inferior because he is, from a very real genetic standpoint, an incomplete copy of a female. He is a derivative, subhuman mutation, designed for sexual reproduction. After providing sperm, he's quite disposable, and our society shows this in many ways.

Harsh words, I know, but it's true if you really think about it.

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I seem to be not quite understanding the entire concept of female supremacy. It is obvious from a purely genetic standpoint that not all females are superior to all other males. It is also obvious that The Alpha male will never surrender to The Alpha female unless he is inferior in which case he could most likely not hold the status of Alpha male. It is also obvious that males are more aggressive, less likely to submit, and more likely to challenge the hierarchy due to the fact that they have higher testosterone levels.
How is this supposed to work out in society? Am I missing something?

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 2:12:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: Inferiorxy

To understand how and why Females in any mammal species are superior, simply ask yourself this: why are we males born with nipples?

Look at the chromosomes. XX vs. Xy makes it pretty obvious. Females are superior because they represent the entire human being. The male is inferior because he is, from a very real genetic standpoint, an incomplete copy of a female. He is a derivative, subhuman mutation, designed for sexual reproduction. After providing sperm, he's quite disposable, and our society shows this in many ways.

Harsh words, I know, but it's true if you really think about it.

OK. I have really thought about it, and I fail to see your truth. Your post was incomplete without examples of how "society shows this in many ways." Care to expand on that?

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 2:18:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: Inferiorxy

To understand how and why Females in any mammal species are superior, simply ask yourself this: why are we males born with nipples?

I have a question.

Why are the inferior females born without penises? Its clear they are only half human since they born with an empty spot, missing this all important organ.

See how that works?

Respect the cock.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 2:42:59 PM

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Actually, if we're going to go there haha, the male genital composition is an example of what you were contradicting. Females have fully differentiated genitals whereas the male does not, in addition to the penis being variation by the Y chromosome of the X chromosomes primary physical design.

It's why male children are genetically more their mothers and female children are genetically equally their mother and father.

;)
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As to the actual topic lol,

Yes, I definitely feel that what another of the females commented on above, that the OP's posts here (and other places) are laced with misogyny despite saying they do not have any issue with females. It would be best for you to take a look at that, ImpossibleSub.

To the questions, the concept of female supremacy is not one single idea/view. For some it's a very real sexism or misandry, for some it's a general view of some type while maintaining the view of males and females being deserving of equal treatment and respect, for some it's purely a fun form of kink play or a relationship style they enjoy between selected partners.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 3:03:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Actually, if we're going to go there haha, the male genital composition is an example of what you were contradicting. Females have fully differentiated genitals whereas the male does not, in addition to the penis being variation by the Y chromosome of the X chromosomes primary physical design.

It's why male children are genetically more their mothers and female children are genetically equally their mother and father.

I was actually being caprious. I haven't done the research as I don't really feel the need to. I could care less about anyone's interruptation of genetics of which gender is so much better than others nor do I feel the particular insecurity with my own gender to come up with a factually based theory as to why I am so much better than the others.

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Yes, I definitely feel that what another of the females commented on above, that the OP's posts here (and other places) are laced with misogyny despite saying they do not have any issue with females.

It would also be good to note that a couple of places in this thread seem to be littered with very subtle resentment towards men and a little bit too much over-senistivity

But...hey...then again I am still waiting for when I see a Female Supremicist viewpoint that isn't littered with resentment!

Or a Male Supremicist viewpoint that doesn't involve the ensurance of one's cock being sucked at anytime. (Just to be fair)

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 3:09:23 PM

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Why are you getting touchy? It was quite clear from your post that you were being playful, as it was quite clear in my own. What's your problem?

As to the resentment, most have been quite polite and expressed a view of equality. When someone starts a thread with misogyny, it only makes sense that at least some females would find it offensive and react to that. Same if this was a thread started with misandry, it would only make sense that at least some fo the male would find it offensive and react to that.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 3:16:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Womens liberation is a sudden movement???? Someone has had their head in the sand for a long time. Sounds like someone needs to read some history books. Damm. Im making the assumption that they can read.

Yeah, I know women have been seeking liberation for many centuries and are still repressed in some cultures. The point I was trying to make is that this was the most significent social upheaval in the history of man. It occurred over a space of about 100 years in the US - a very short time compared to the 6000 years or so civilization has been in existance. There have been significant social effects, some good, and some bad.
In my opinion - granted this is my opinion - it has caused quite a "mess". Now before anyone gets angry at this I do want to state that there were several other factors involved which were not correct within US society that acted as catalyst for all of the problems that occurred.
I think women deserve equal rights, I just think the timing was not right.

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