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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 8:12:23 PM   
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My own view:

The idea of "female supremacy" is more opinion than it is some sort of fact that can be verified scientifically. Like Gorean "philosophy" (which is basically the opposite of FS) it can't be supported by any kind of evidence. It really just adds up to wishful thinking on the part of those involved. As such, it becomes a personal choice.

As a bi sub male, I could (and have) followed both genders as dominants in my life. I much prefer women over men, however. I find women to be much more responsible, level headed, and interested in dominating the person, overall, than males who seem to be more interested in just the physical acts. So, by default, I guess I tend to believe that FS has more validity than does it's opposite.

I believe that most women are my superiors, and I shape my life around that belief.






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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 9:13:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
The rhetoric of Female Supremacy is a parody of the rhetoric of male supremacy or racial supremacy. It has no meaning outside the pleasure it gives those who choose to play the game.


Wow. With all due respect...speak for yourself. Female Supremacy is not just a parody or dumb, kinky game to me.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 9:35:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Inferiorxy

To understand how and why Females in any mammal species are superior, simply ask yourself this: why are we males born with nipples?

Look at the chromosomes. XX vs. Xy makes it pretty obvious. Females are superior because they represent the entire human being. The male is inferior because he is, from a very real genetic standpoint, an incomplete copy of a female. He is a derivative, subhuman mutation, designed for sexual reproduction. After providing sperm, he's quite disposable, and our society shows this in many ways.

Harsh words, I know, but it's true if you really think about it.



OK. I have really thought about it, and I fail to see your truth. Your post was incomplete without examples of how "society shows this in many ways." Care to expand on that?



Registration for selective service mandatory only for males. Male mortality rate much higher because they undertake the most dangerous, lousy, horrible paying jobs that are seldom (if ever!) occupied by Females. Men traditionally expected to support the family with their labor. More / better products available and marketed for women in the marketplace. More focus on Female health in medicine than male health. More focus on the Female in education than the male, and the modern rise of pro-female sentiment in nearly all areas of our society.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 9:44:19 PM   
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This is because males have testicles which produce testerone making them more aggressive and stronger. Males also have a higher pain threshold so females are not suited for those jobs. In addition from a purely reproductive standpoint it is ok for us to lose some males and we want some of our males to insemeniate enemy organisms. Also with fewer males there is a higher woman/man ratio which we like. None of the above points to females being the superior gender.

We also prefer you women to have soft hands :). It is actually the other way around, we have been making you all weak for thousands of years so you would be dependent on us. You really need a big, strong, man even if he is your slave.

LOL, couldn't resist.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 9:53:50 PM   
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On a side note, I read somewhere that females have an extra gene which males do not have. this gene allows them to better adapt to social situations. It is thought to aid them in getting the best possible mate. This is why there are so few "geeky" women who don't fit in.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 9:57:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

This is because males have testicles which produce testerone making them more aggressive and stronger. Males also have a higher pain threshold so females are not suited for those jobs. In addition from a purely reproductive standpoint it is ok for us to lose some males and we want some of our males to insemeniate enemy organisms. Also with fewer males there is a higher woman/man ratio which we like. None of the above points to females being the superior gender.


And almost all of the above is bad science, or flat out incorrect.  If you want to argue either for or against something, it behooves you to actually know WTF you're talking about. 

I don't have a very high opinion of supremacists of any gender, race or religion.  Their viewpoints tend to be emotional and irrational, and supported by extremely bad pseudo-science that makes me wince with the stupid.  I think can now safely add anti-supremacists to the same category. 

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:01:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

And almost all of the above is bad science, or flat out incorrect.  If you want to argue either for or against something, it behooves you to actually know WTF you're talking about. 



If you are going to say I am incorrect you should be able to point out how and why. I note your failure to do so.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:02:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

On a side note, It is true that females have an extra gene which males do not have. this gene allows them to better adapt to social situations. It is thought to aid them in getting the best possible mate. This is why there are so few "geeky" women who don't fit in.


Augh.  Please stop advertising the fact that you don't even know what a gene is, let alone how they are encoded in a sex-linked chromosone.  The stupid is making my brain hurt.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:02:59 PM   
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Just curious... Has the reproductive organism in sperm been replicated and thusly making "man" obsolete. Is so... I think this is a brilliant time to... well, fuck. For if women have their way, it won't be long before they fully control the sex activities in and out of the bedroom. and when that happens all us poor shmucks that have been doing all the work of protecting and providing for these women will soon find ourselves defunct and useless. LOL

Yeah that'll happen.

The thing is... Neither is superior. Woman cannot exist with out man, and who would want to exist with out women? So... Take the superiority debate and all the fucking politically correct mumbo bullshit and pass it to some one who gives a shit.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:06:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub
If you are going to say I am incorrect you should be able to point out how and why. I note your failure to do so.


Do your own science homework.  If you are in fact capable.

I am not a believer in any sort of supremacy, and I applaud debunking the folks who are.  But you're going to have to figure out how to do it right.  Bad, mixed-up pseudo-science is never helpful, and mostly it's embarrassing to other debunkers.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:06:54 PM   
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I am not sure if anyone have cloned a human yet, but, someone cloned sheep using an egg and not a sperm.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:08:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Do your own science homework.  If you are in fact capable.



I have. You are still not presenting any valid points that indicate I am incorrect.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:09:03 PM   
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Sounds like I need to start fucking... I may be out of a job soon... LOL

"That's funny right thar... I don't care who y'are." Thanks Larry

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:12:44 PM   
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This logic is so screwed up that it is beyond laughable... there are so many assumptions that are incorrect that your arguments aren't even worth a replay.

You assume that because some scientist long ago used the term XX for women and XY for men that women are superior... LOL  It is a frigging designation to describe the chromosome sequencing... they could have used M and V instead!!!

Men traditionally go to war and get the more difficult jobs because of cultural programming in the US and Western Society. In Asia and Africa (where I have lived) women are often given the menial jobs... again a cultural thing not a superior gender qualification.

If you want some gender qualification then how about the fact that women are controlled by hormone levels every month that severely screws their ability to make any kind of rational, reasonable, or logical decision. Or maybe the physiology fact that women’s bodies were built totally for penetration.. to be invaded you might say. Or the fact that based upon MRI studies at UCLA women use the emotional aspect of their brains for making daily decisions rather than the logical and rational areas. Let me see now, oh yes, a woman totally loses control when she gets knocked up... yeah that is really superior...

By the way, it is the male chromosomes’ that causes the adaptation of the human species to changing environments... not the female.

Your argument is nothing more than the feminist / Liberal drivel that has no scientific or biological bearing on anything close to reality.

Female superiority is a fantasy perpetuated by clueless people that write TV and Movie fantasy scripts. The vast majority of Dominant women I have seen have no self control little real human psychology understanding and their dominance comes from their hormonal imbalance, extreme insecurity, and lack of real understanding…

Yet there is still a need for these women for the men that have been emasculated and now need a nurse maid, or has fallen into the Feminist crap that men are inherently bad deserving to be used abused and thrown away… this being taught to men now days from birth until they no longer know how to be a man… taught and programmed by single angry women that cannot keep a decent real man because they are so selfish and self righteous.  Or by those that have accepted the emotional dysfunction perpetuated by the media that is again pushing it’s own anti-male agenda.

How can I say this? I can say this because I have a psychology degree and this is close to what my clinical studies was about. So unless you just want to flame me because that is the best you can do and you have lost any bit of self control moving into emotional exasperation and you are so insecure that you can’t talk real facts.. then go ahead, it doesn’t bother me a bit.

Liberals do not like or allow any idea that is contrary to their way of thinking… they try to force everybody else to accept their religion of thought. Nor can they accept any facts that counter what they fantasize or think, so they just go into emotional rants and sling insults. Rather than changing their opinion to fit the facts and the definition of words, they redefine the meaning of words to suit their dysfunctional and selfish ways. A good example is how Slave and Master has been redefined to the point that it means nothing. Every little girl is now a slave because it is the current FAD… Just look on the forums here, you see self proclaimed slaves that define their whole existence living on the boards giving out crappy advice to others. This is worse than Dear Abby Gossip.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:14:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

This is because males have testicles which produce testerone making them more aggressive and stronger. Males also have a higher pain threshold so females are not suited for those jobs. In addition from a purely reproductive standpoint it is ok for us to lose some males and we want some of our males to insemeniate enemy organisms. Also with fewer males there is a higher woman/man ratio which we like. None of the above points to females being the superior gender.

We also prefer you women to have soft hands :). It is actually the other way around, we have been making you all weak for thousands of years so you would be dependent on us. You really need a big, strong, man even if he is your slave.

LOL, couldn't resist.



just because god gave you your plumbing on the outside DOESN'T mean that you can do jobs females can't do. Please makes you stronger.... oh gives you a higher threshold of pain.... UMMMM I know females that are linemen for electric companies, operate heavy machinary, and other such "males" jobs... and they do them just as well if not better than the men who do those jobs. And pain threshold... let me tell you something let me see you have children!!! I had both my girls without drugs and I am damn proud of that fact. So * if you are male* and I am assuming that you are... when you can pop out kids and live to tell about it... then maybe you have a right to sit in judgement !!!

sorry for the rant ... just hate people like that

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:21:18 PM   
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 I do not claim it makes them superior, I just claim that they are not inferior based upon the reasoning of the poster to whom I was responding. Please reread my post, the latter portion which included the smiley face was meant in a somewhat joking manner although it is partially true to an extent. There are very few women who work construction jobs.
Last I heard, it may have changed since then,  females in the army are required to do fewer pushups than males due to lack of upper body strength. There is actually an extra gene pair which is complete in females but not in males - not a chromosome - and it is not environmental adaptation, but social adaptation which it relates to. It was in some science news publication online a couple of years ago.

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:27:04 PM   
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On another note... I would just like to add... that because I am male... I am better than all of you who aren't.


Does this make any damn sense at all.

This is the reverse of the Because I am female I am better than those who aren't.

Did it not just piss you women off to read that from me. That I would just come out and say that I am better than you just because I have a dick? Fuck you. You women get to make all these outlandish statements about this or that based on inequalities in gender... however when a man says or does something with the same words he gets barraged with sexist labeling and or if in a professional environment even terminated for discrimination. 

I better stop now... I have had my fill of female thinking for today... It always makes my fucking head hurt to try to get in your heads... Too much nonsense. too much "there's a sale over at..." Then there's the obligatory emotions that rule your thoughts... I do not envy your sex. I think I would have to just blow myself up rather than have to deal with being a woman and thusly what's in a womans head...

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:39:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kindandcruel

This logic is so screwed up that it is beyond laughable... there are so many assumptions that are incorrect that your arguments aren't even worth a replay.

You assume that because some scientist long ago used the term XX for women and XY for men that women are superior... LOL It is a frigging designation to describe the chromosome sequencing... they could have used M and V instead!!!

Men traditionally go to war and get the more difficult jobs because of cultural programming in the US and Western Society. In Asia and Africa (where I have lived) women are often given the menial jobs... again a cultural thing not a superior gender qualification.

If you want some gender qualification then how about the fact that women are controlled by hormone levels every month that severely screws their ability to make any kind of rational, reasonable, or logical decision. Or maybe the physiology fact that women’s bodies were built totally for penetration.. to be invaded you might say. Or the fact that based upon MRI studies at UCLA women use the emotional aspect of their brains for making daily decisions rather than the logical and rational areas. Let me see now, oh yes, a woman totally loses control when she gets knocked up... yeah that is really superior...

By the way, it is the male chromosomes’ that causes the adaptation of the human species to changing environments... not the female.

Your argument is nothing more than the feminist / Liberal drivel that has no scientific or biological bearing on anything close to reality.

Female superiority is a fantasy perpetuated by clueless people that write TV and Movie fantasy scripts. The vast majority of Dominant women I have seen have no self control little real human psychology understanding and their dominance comes from their hormonal imbalance, extreme insecurity, and lack of real understanding…

Yet there is still a need for these women for the men that have been emasculated and now need a nurse maid, or has fallen into the Feminist crap that men are inherently bad deserving to be used abused and thrown away… this being taught to men now days from birth until they no longer know how to be a man… taught and programmed by single angry women that cannot keep a decent real man because they are so selfish and self righteous. Or by those that have accepted the emotional dysfunction perpetuated by the media that is again pushing it’s own anti-male agenda.

How can I say this? I can say this because I have a psychology degree and this is close to what my clinical studies was about. So unless you just want to flame me because that is the best you can do and you have lost any bit of self control moving into emotional exasperation and you are so insecure that you can’t talk real facts.. then go ahead, it doesn’t bother me a bit.

Liberals do not like or allow any idea that is contrary to their way of thinking… they try to force everybody else to accept their religion of thought. Nor can they accept any facts that counter what they fantasize or think, so they just go into emotional rants and sling insults. Rather than changing their opinion to fit the facts and the definition of words, they redefine the meaning of words to suit their dysfunctional and selfish ways. A good example is how Slave and Master has been redefined to the point that it means nothing. Every little girl is now a slave because it is the current FAD… Just look on the forums here, you see self proclaimed slaves that define their whole existence living on the boards giving out crappy advice to others. This is worse than Dear Abby Gossip.



First, "psychology" is not much of a science in the first place. Isn't that profession the reason why we are becoming more and more a medicated nation?

Second, there IS significant difference between the chromsomes, namely that the Y chromosome is smaller and contains markedly fewer genetic components than the X. Y is in fact a mutated version of X. It is a derivative of X. The Female chromosome sequence contains far more genetic data than the male's. The Y chromosome is in fact degrading and in trouble, because it does not build or repair itself with each generation. It is in fact an exact copy of the previous father's Y. That how we can trace lineage in men reliably through past generations.

For the record, Women actually on average have better memory than men, and use more cross networking in their brains than men (emotive and logistical). They have more "white matter" in their brains, on average. That's the stuff that connects the two hemispheres, Mr. smarty pants psychologist!

And btw, my original point was that culture shows how it does favor the Female by putting the male in harm's way first. Men are always willing to help a lady out, protect her, and do dirty, dangerous work for her. A man's place is written in his DNA. Why do males love to look at and kiss the feet of females, huh? Ever think about that? :-)

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 10:44:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Inferiorxy
A man's place is written in his DNA. Why do males love to look at and kiss the feet of females, huh? Ever think about that? :-)

Regards,
Not a Liberal


Uhhh... well... Feet are dirty smelly and disgusting. But they do get one from point A to B so I cant fault them too much... LOL

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RE: Female Supremacy? - 4/28/2008 11:16:15 PM   
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Woosh, it's fun to sit back and watch which men have the worst luck with women as we they come crawling in here to rant against women.

No doubt it's the ones who fear you women/who were rejected by women.

So far in this each woman's answer stayed away from personal attacks. unlike some of the pissy pussy boys. Good for you women. rise above these antagonistic worms. that you dont retaliate against their bashing says alot.

and don't give them the attention they so crave. there problems with women have nothing to do with you.

is there any chance of civil discourse with these women haters? likely not.

Unfortunately, many on here can't say things without personal abuse or offending others.

these types just make validate the old saying that men can be a bunch of aggressive, socially retarded, babies.

Can you imagine who would want to submit to these rejects? Wow, look out.

look, don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time:

More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. we are twice as likely to commit violence , including murder. The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. Girls outperform boys in school. ectera.

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