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FirmhandKY -> Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:27:33 PM)

In a townhall meeting in Des Moines, a questioner asked John McCain:

"Is it true you called your wife a cunt?"  (video)

Now some interesting facts:

1.  The questioner was described in some articles as a "Baptist minister". Huffington Post story
2.  His name was Marty Parrish, and he was an office manager with Biden campaign for a while, now he is an Obama supporter. (his Myspace site)

He tried to couch his question as an attempt to make a determination about the McCain's temper.  And based on McCain's cool response, I think he got his answer:

McCain: "There's people here who don't respect that kind of language. So I'll move on to the next questioner in the back."

Yeah, sure ... Democrats don't have "dirty tricks".

Firm




kittinSol -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:39:37 PM)

Hahahahaha!!! You're so cute when you're miffed! [8D]

You weren't really hoping all Democrats to be coiffed with shining halos, were you? This one sounds like he should join the ranks of the Republicans: he's far too obvious about his devioussness.

Sooooo cute!




TreasureKY -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:47:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Hahahahaha!!! You're so cute when you're miffed! [8D]


Sweetheart... you've no idea.  [;)]




Marc2b -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:47:30 PM)

I don't really know much about his wife.

Is she a cunt?




Owner59 -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:55:48 PM)

 Looks like the guys acted alone.

A Democratic dirty trick implies that people(Dems) got together ,planed and executed that plan and did the dirty trick(s).

Doesn`t even come close in comparison to Bush saying McCain had an illegitimate "mixed" daughter out of wedlock.Or Bush saying McCain`s wife was a druggie,etc.

Now that`s what dirty tricks are........

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There will always be individuals who act or speak in bad taste.In this case, a democrat.

To call it a democratic dirty trick is a bit disingenuous.But that`s expected from neo-cons,who live work and breath dirty tricks.

To say that that the party or  Democrats  are responsible for that,would be like saying that republicans are traitors to America, because Karl Rove,Scooter Libby,Cheney and Bush revealed the identity of a covert operative, working for the CIA.


I`m willing to go there.Are you?




FirmhandKY -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 8:57:16 PM)

Marc,

Dunno.

FR:

Here's another, this time from the Clinton camp:
Almost every day over the past six months, I have been the recipient of an email that attacks Obama's character, political views, electability, and real or manufactured associations. The original source of many of these hit pieces are virulent and sometimes extreme right-wing websites, bloggers, and publications. But they aren't being emailed out from some fringe right-wing group that somehow managed to get my email address. Instead, it is Sidney Blumenthal who, on a regular basis, methodically dispatches these email mudballs to an influential list of opinion shapers --
Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 9:03:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Hahahahaha!!! You're so cute when you're miffed! [8D]

...

Sooooo cute!

I was born cute.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

You weren't really hoping all Democrats to be coiffed with shining halos, were you? This one sounds like he should join the ranks of the Republicans: he's far too obvious about his devioussness.

Many posterss think, and act as if "dirty trickss" was ssomething only practiced by the Republican sside of the political sspectrum, when in fact, it is jusst as prevalent on the "left" sside. [8D]

Firm




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/1/2008 9:08:45 PM)

I go with Louis Black on this one... Lets elect a dead guy for president, and that will be that...




Irishknight -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 7:27:09 AM)

While I agree with much of what you said, Owner, I have to wonder what covert operative it is to which you refer?  The so called operative everyone is blaming them for outting was working in a stateside office and was about as covert as the kid working at McDonald's. 
Having met the individual referred to when I lived in Iowa and having been around the Dems in that state, I will almost guaranty that it was a plan thought up to try to discredit the man.  There is a large group of  hatemongering democrats that this man is a part of.  Does it mean that all Dems are such morons?  Absolutely not.  It is also not sneaky enough to be a dirty trick by the major players.  Hillary's staff is far smoother when they stab you in the back.  Ask Obama.  Just because they are Dems doesn't put a shiny halo on their filthy little heads nor does being a republican make them satanic "neo-cons" who should be reviled.  Lumping people into such stereotypes is playground level politicd that we as adults should have long since grown past.




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 8:30:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Looks like the guys acted alone.

A Democratic dirty trick implies that people(Dems) got together ,planed and executed that plan and did the dirty trick(s).

Doesn`t even come close in comparison to Bush saying McCain had an illegitimate "mixed" daughter out of wedlock.Or Bush saying McCain`s wife was a druggie,etc.

Now that`s what dirty tricks are........


But you so often paint the Republicans with a brush of unconfirmed conspiracy, but not willing to look at your own party and consider it a possibility? Good example of how the politicians keep us busy with the great divide.

quote:


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There will always be individuals who act or speak in bad taste.In this case, a democrat.

To call it a democratic dirty trick is a bit disingenuous.But that`s expected from neo-cons,who live work and breath dirty tricks.


hypocricy at work in your above statement. Cheerleaders like you, are part of the problem, not the solution.

quote:


To say that that the party or  Democrats  are responsible for that,would be like saying that republicans are traitors to America, because Karl Rove,Scooter Libby,Cheney and Bush revealed the identity of a covert operative, working for the CIA.


I`m willing to go there.Are you?


And some have said that too. Not sure if you have, but you have always reacted to a Republican possible dirty trick as if they are guilty until proven innocent. Until you can equitably apply your own standards, how can you even say that you are a supporter of equal treatment under the law?

POLITICIANS are the problem, and that includes both major parties.

Crap like the OP is only posted so that a battle of "My party is better than your party." or "Your party is scum." can occur.




happypervert -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 10:45:51 AM)

I can't wait for the republicans to try smearing Obama for having black babies. After all, it worked for Bush against McCain in South Carolina primary years ago, so it is worth trotting out that tactic again!




Floggings4You -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 10:56:50 AM)

Wow.
 
I can't imagine having the opportunity to ask a question of a Presidential candidate, and wasting that chance by asking a question such as this--and asked in public  (Pay attention to the reaction of the crowd behind McCain.) 
 
This behaviour is (hopefully) going to haunt the questioner for a long, long time.
 
I hope he thinks it was worth it. 




popeye1250 -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 11:06:29 AM)

McCain was also asked about all the Illegal Aliens from Mexico.
His answer was that it's a "humanitarian" problem and they're all "God's children."
Mexico isn't being very "humanitarian" to it's own people are they?
And, they can be "God's children" in Mexico, they don't need to be in the U.S. to be,..."God's children", do they?
"God's children?" Wtf does *that* mean?




SteelofUtah -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 11:13:38 AM)

All I have to do to get disgusted with politics these days is just turn on the TV.

Right or Left lately they are all making me sick.

I decided to write in Charlie Brown as a Candidate and wait for the Waaa Waaaa wa Waaaaa that is gunna be comeing in a year ANYWAY.

No one will be happy and everyone will blame someone else for it.

BAH

Steel




kittinSol -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 11:34:26 AM)

Charlie Brown or Ron Paul... same fantasy, same cartoon humour :-) .




Owner59 -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 12:16:14 PM)

All right ,all right.............Enough of this here bull shit.

At first, I took Firm`s word that this was Democrat generated.I won`t do that again.
How lame, to cloak his post with fake outrage,when it was Mat Drudge and others saying this.I think Firm knows that.

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There is a story by a guy who wrote a book about McCain,who claims that three reporters and two of McCain`s aids witnessed the words.


http://www.drudge.com/news/106692/author-mccain-called-wife-cunt-trollop

"A new book by Cliff Schechter has the inside scoop on John McCain. And if you want to know why John McCain was called "McNasty" in high school, read this.

At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

This event was witnessed by 3 reporters and two aides of John McCain, Doug Cole and Wes Gullett"
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Now for someone to spin this as a Democratic dirty trick, is beyond lying."Latest Democratic dirty trick",........my ass.

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How does this compare with right-wing dirty tricks,like claiming Mr Obama is a radical Muslim,or an America hater,etc?Those are well funded and well manned dirty tricks,that came from the cocksucker unit of the republican party.

This was a stupid guy asking a stupid question.The source of the question though, is from the right.

Someone`s grasp`n for straws........... and starting the Kentucky Derby Party a little early,me thinks.




Missokyst -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 12:57:00 PM)

Dems, Repubs, Libs, don't you people get it that it doesn't matter?  The only thing that matters is MONEYand POWER.  How to get it, how to keep it, how to make sure you have more than your neighbor, how to flaunt it, use it, and make more.  Dirty tricks are not assigned to one party.  Dirty tricks are designed to get people to join in their camp and make them see things their way.  Why?  Because they want money and power.  Guess who doesn't matter here?  We the people.
Kyst 




NorthernGent -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 12:59:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Dems, Repubs, Libs, don't you people get it that it doesn't matter?  The only thing that matters is MONEYand POWER.  How to get it, how to keep it, how to make sure you have more than your neighbor, how to flaunt it, use it, and make more.  Dirty tricks are not assigned to one party.  Dirty tricks are designed to get people to join in their camp and make them see things their way.  Why?  Because they want money and power.  Guess who doesn't matter here?  We the people.
Kyst 


Good post.....until you excused "the people".....




cjan -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 1:56:26 PM)

"There you go again", Firm, ( in the immortal words of Ronnie Reagan).

Everyone knows that politics is a dirty game played by both sides, thank you very much. What seems to work so well, in this country, whose citizenry is so easily manipulated, is to toss out inflammatory, red herring , comments and issues, in order to distract and exhuast the limited attention span of the average voter.

How's that KY holding out ?




Missokyst -> RE: Latest Democratic Dirty Tricks (5/2/2008 3:27:15 PM)

ahh.. you are right there.  We elect them.  We promote them.  We continue to buy the BS that party lines lay out for us to walk on.  As long as we accept the crap and let the rich call the shots, we get what we pay for.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

Dems, Repubs, Libs, don't you people get it that it doesn't matter?  The only thing that matters is MONEYand POWER.  How to get it, how to keep it, how to make sure you have more than your neighbor, how to flaunt it, use it, and make more.  Dirty tricks are not assigned to one party.  Dirty tricks are designed to get people to join in their camp and make them see things their way.  Why?  Because they want money and power.  Guess who doesn't matter here?  We the people.
Kyst 


Good post.....until you excused "the people".....




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