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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 4:42:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		i speak german arabian and english ...i did lived in all 3 languages ....
i dated woman from all sorts of countries and race .. i have not found
one .. what could live multy culturell like i do .. maybe someday

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 5:26:56 AM   
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oh you think that's neato?  i can count to ten on my fingers and toes, so there!


You can only count to ten on your fingers and toes?  I sorry to have to tell you this but you're only half way there.  Keep trying!

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wha? only half way there?  aw hell....well, at least i have some inspirational music to practice to! 

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 11:00:29 AM   
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Huh?


I think she wants everyone is the US to start speaking Spanish

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 11:40:26 AM   
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Huh?


I think she wants everyone is the US to start speaking Spanish


Yeah, right, I'm sure that's what she meant  . Des conneries.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 1:46:47 PM   
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Thats what amazes me about Brits, LondonArt - "oh, I cant learn another language, I'm rubbish at that sort of thing"



'Never heard that one before.......it's usually, "will not learn a foreign language because English will do just nicely".....

But, if it helps to redeem the linguisitic state of affairs existing in England.......I can say, "good morning, do you speak English" in Japanese......."beer, please" in German......and "what sort of fuckin' place is this?" in French........all with no remorse whatsoever.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 1:58:31 PM   
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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 1:59:24 PM   
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I took Spanish all through college but it all slid out (of my ears I think).

Spanish TV mocks me; they talk mucho rapido on purpose so I can't keep up. Seriously, why so fast?

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 2:01:31 PM   
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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 2:13:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gentldom4sub

i speak german arabian and english ...i did lived in all 3 languages ....
i dated woman from all sorts of countries and race .. i have not found
one .. what could live multy culturell like i do .. maybe someday


If I was you I would work on the english a bit more....just saying...

I think it should be law in this country that our public school system be REQUIRED to teach at minimum one other language to it's students from preschool all the way through high school.

I dearly wish I knew at least 2 other languages. As soon as I can afford Rosetta Stone I will begin to work on that.... I just cannot decide...french or italian. Then definately spanish. One of my little life goals.


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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 2:48:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Problem LaT though - and it is a noble and worthwhile undertaking for schools you propose - is that one can teach a second language all one wishes. If the pupil isnt interested or motivated, he/she will learn nothing.

We all did French for five years at school. As soon as they could, 95% dropped out of it, having learnt precisely rien, and having aucun regrets either. Mittlerweiler, I carried on with French and German, weil I seem to have a talent for language. Wish I could have dropped Mathematik and Science.

And then in the US there is the vexatious question as to which foreign language would be taught..... Spanish would be useful for instance, but politically unacceptable I expect.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 2:51:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Multilingualism should be taught as early as possible in order to 'take' in the brain. My son is being raised in both English and French and he has been completely bilingual ever since he started speaking. Like his mummy :-) .

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 3:33:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thats really the only way for the majority KS, especially here in England amongst the ethnic Brits.

Meanwhile the more recent settlers here generally speak two languages, and the Welsh learn two languages. Very handy on the battlefield, Welsh - the enemy listen in on our comms expecting English and get what sounds like gobblydegook instead! 

Its sheer laziness thats the culprit - but then thats the problem throughout Britain.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 3:39:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Which is why I think it should be started in preschool and mandatory all through school. No learn, no graduate.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 4:00:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most of the younger generation in Ireland speak at least two (Irish and English) Irish being compulsory and many speak 3 or 4 languages, French, Spanish and German being the most polular and quite a few speak Russian.
But, their education system is better than in most places in the U.S.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 6:44:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		My child's school in Iowa forced Spanish down the kids' throats.  What it did was to make it harder for them to learn English.  These kids were being stunted in learning one language to be politically correct and try to learn another. 
Let's give them lesser education in the name of higher education?   Having seen how ineffective it was when put in action I will fight tooth and nail if the political nitwits try to destroy the education he is getting here.  The children need to have a firm grasp of one language before you confuse them with another.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 7:16:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

My child's school in Iowa forced Spanish down the kids' throats.  What it did was to make it harder for them to learn English.  These kids were being stunted in learning one language to be politically correct and try to learn another. 
Let's give them lesser education in the name of higher education?   Having seen how ineffective it was when put in action I will fight tooth and nail if the political nitwits try to destroy the education he is getting here.  The children need to have a firm grasp of one language before you confuse them with another.


I was the other way around.

I took 6 years of (middle and HS)English and just didn`t get it,~sentence structure ~the 7 parts of speech~grammar~etc., until I took Spanish.

Don`t know why,but English made more sense after learning how to speak,read and write Spanish.I got to the point where I was dreaming in Spanish but I`ve lost most of it.

While doing traditional Japanese karate,I had to learn quite a few Japanese terms,commands and phrases.

Japanese is the language of karate,as French is the language of ballet,as Latin is the language of medicine.

This way,a ballet teacher can teach ballet to anyone and a Sensei can teach karate to people of different languages.

It most important that Dr.s speak a common language(Latin),so those with different languages can still communicate in case of trouble.

I heard that sign language is the 2nd most common langauge in the world.

Does anyone know if that`s true?

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/6/2008 10:01:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I posted this topic partially because my experience fits the British Council expectation, that speaking only English isn't always enough. In my business, I'm old, and I need an edge to get to the attention of potential clients. English is the language of my profession, American English at that. Everyone in my business speaks English, and speaks it well; being a native speaker is nothing special.

Anyone who speaks to clients really needs to speak the language they're most comfortable to use, and that's the client's mother tongue. So speaking other languages helps. I've picked up enough Dutch, French and German for small talk, but not for fluency. That small talk can help make the client feel comfortable. Those languages got me my current role. I don't want to overstate the case; right now being multilingual is a minor advantage, it isn't a key factor; there are more vacancies than people, finding someone with the desired skillset is the hard part. But if my industry goes through the bad times again, those language skills will help me, not just in their own right, but also because it'll mean I can challenge for roles in countries that speak any of them. In the European Union, that gives me a lot more vacancies to target.

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/7/2008 3:11:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The need for a foreign language varies. The universal language of aviation is English and ICAO standards now require all pilots who may fly interneational and air traffic controllers to have an endorsement on their airman's certificate that they are English proficient - something that always amused me since english is the native tongue in the US where my licenses are issued. However, I took italian in highschool which proved utterly useless to me. I learned Afrikaans for family reasons which proved handy when visiting South Africa even though they all speak english. I am however learning spanish because its useful as hell for ordering at the tacquiera, or trying to pick up a latina :)

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/7/2008 5:15:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

My child's school in Iowa forced Spanish down the kids' throats.  What it did was to make it harder for them to learn English.  These kids were being stunted in learning one language to be politically correct and try to learn another. 
Let's give them lesser education in the name of higher education?   Having seen how ineffective it was when put in action I will fight tooth and nail if the political nitwits try to destroy the education he is getting here.  The children need to have a firm grasp of one language before you confuse them with another.



So trying to learn more in school is baaaaaad, and you want to put a stop to that sort of thing?

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RE: Monolingual English is a disadvantage - 5/7/2008 5:17:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have heard that there are some school districts that are offering Latin, again.  I wish they had when I was in school.  With a base in latin, the romance languages would be easier to learn.
I don't think Rosetta Stone offers a course in Latin..LOL

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