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ResidentSadist -> -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 12:30:19 AM)

-=Belly Dancer Slave=- 
As a boy, I encountered a real slave…


I am part Armenian and have met nonconsensual slaves that had been captured by the Turks during the invasion from 1915 - 1918.  I was amazed at their stories.  Those stories and the innate charm of the belly dancers (ex slaves) I met are part of what inspired my lifestyle interests in my youth. 

I recall one story in particular.  At the age of nine, while I was at an Armenian ethnic festival, I peeked into the belly dancing troupe’s tent.  In the middle of the tent, at the most elegant dressing table there, I saw an older woman that was literally covered in tattoos.  The tattoos ranged in size from as small as a business card to the size of a playing card.  She had back to back rows of these tattoos running up and down both her legs and arms all the way to her wrists and ankles.  All the other younger dancers had only a few tattoos, none reaching past their knees.  But they all treated the heavily tattooed woman with the highest amount of respect. 

I was enthralled just watching these dancers move about getting ready for their next show.  The grace, elegance and sensual self awareness they exhibited compared to the average person would be like comparing the grace of cat to a dog.  There was something magical in the essence of these belly dancers and it had me fascinated and captivated as I watched them dress and prepare for the stage. 

Eventually the older woman saw me standing in the open seam of the tent.   She addressed very me politely and earnestly asking what I wanted.  Her voice caressed me with tones of sincerity and respect.  Her eyes met mine with unabashed openness and vulnerability.  Although she was my elder by 40 or 50 years, and I was in her territory which meant it was I who should have obeyed her, she addressed me as a subservient and humble woman that was making a sincere inquiry of an adult man.  I did not know it then but, she addressed me as a polite slave would address any young Master. 

I responded instinctively to her respect and with all sincerity I asked her why she had all those tattoos?  That old women had a slave’s heart and she offered to answer my question while inviting me in to come in and sit with her on her dressing table bench.  I was mesmerized as she began to speak.  She stopped working on her hair and gave me all of her attention.  Words cannot convey how the world around us disappeared as we formed a very intimate and deep connection with our conversation. 

She pointed to a tattoo and told where she got it, then asked me about my nationality and my interest in the art of dance.  She explained that the “dance” was an art a woman or slave uses to please men.  As she told me of her tattoos, her owners and their locations, she recalled sale prices she fetched in the transactions.  She told me about being an Armenian slave when she was younger and showed me where the Armenian tattoos ended.  She told me the story of Turkish invasion and showed me how the styles of the Turkish tattoos were different. 

She would pause every once in a while at the recollections a special tattoo would bring.  I could see the joy and passion in her eyes as she would say that owners name and then speak praise of him with respect and how he treated her well.  She would speak certain owner’s names with such reverence it was obvious she worshiped their memory as told their story of her ownership.

She would tell of the Masters that had her trained to sing, or dance or “please a man”.  It was awesome… I was 9 years old and this 50-60 year old women had seduced my heart with her passion, her openness, honesty, vulnerability and willingness to serve my request by answering my questions.  It seemed the more questions I asked her about her experiences as a slave, the happier she became recounting her tales. 

Finally I asked her why she had so many tattoos and the others girls didn’t?  She paused.  It was a long pause and I could see her compose herself.  She explained that the more talents a slave had, the more valuable she was in trade.  Therefore a talented slave was likely to be traded more often. Then she pointed to one tattoo and explained how in Armenia she was traded for equipment to make a well and how it was her value that brought water to that village and improved everyone’s life there.  She explained how she learned as much as she could to make herself a more valuable companion for her Masters.  She spoke of how she used her mind and talents to express her heart in dance, song and conversation with her Masters.  As a young boy, to some degree, I think I fell in love with that old slave as much as I fell in love with what she represented. 

Although the connection we made was sensual, it was not sexual.  However, she came to one tattoo and spoke her owner’s name with such passion I could feel the sexual nature of her memory in the tone of her voice.  “Arman” she said… “such a man”.  He was such a “good man” and he was “so handsome” and he “treated me very well”.  She spoke of him and how he took such good care of her, providing tutors, the finest clothing and making her feel like a “his woman”. 

My intimate conversation with that freed slave, taught me that passion and service knows no bounds, no age or social status.  My mother had taught me the art of conversation at a young age.  I learned how to make a woman “feel” your interest by giving her your complete attention, hearing her desire and fulfilling it.  That was exactly what the Armenian belly dancer did for me.  She selflessly connected with me and gave me her full attention.  She fulfilled my desire completely. She served my request by answering my all my questions and showing me her slave’s heart and its history plotted on her skin by a map of tattoos. 

When we were done, I had traveled back in time to the very places in the desert villages, towns and cities where she got those tattoos.  I had met her owners, shared her emotions, tasted the Armenian sands, traveled the dusty Turkish roads and seen the silks, rugs and artwork in palaces fit for a sultan.  I had heard the music she danced to on palace stages and by tribal campfires.  She gave me her history.

My mother had also respected and studied the Armenian culture and some of the arts and talents that support it… like belly dance.  But my impressions of it through my mother’s research never prepared me for the sense of honor, pride and compassion that old slave held for the art of dance and slavery.  The way she spoke of her time and talents serving as a slave, her healthy and strong self image about her life as a nonconsensual slave that was taken as a prize of war by the Turks was commendable.  Her attitude towards life and her role in it was balanced and admirable. 

Having that old woman reach out with respect, share her life story, her passion and letting me see her heart changed my life and gave me the deepest respect and appreciation for slaves and the slave arts.  I hope this short story pays her the homage she deserves for the respect and quality she has brought to the art of slavery and dance through her life and contributions. 

…bless you where ever you are my sweet dancer.  Thank you.




ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 12:35:42 AM)

I didn’t want to pollute the above text with an intro about my story.  For those that don’t get it, please don’t try.  Accept it as one of life’s mysteries.  For those that this story reaffirms, reinforces, reassures or in any way enlightens your perspectives… pause for a moment in silence as it cost 1.5 million Armenian lives in the war that brought her to the Turks and made this story possible.




TJsCheekypet -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 12:47:40 AM)

very moving, powerful & passionate. the lady made her memories your memories, wow..im so moved by that. why would anyone 'not' get it though? i dont live a slaves life, but i can sort of read into your words as if shes telling me the things she told you, maybe its as you wrote it so well... im quite in awe. exceptionally beautiful words.
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phoenixinchains -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 12:59:20 AM)

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HerLord -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 1:00:15 AM)

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No pix... didn't happen!
Yeah right! This was well written and obviously heartfelt.  Another poster that I look for in the forums scores a thread. Excellent.

Thank you for the contribution, and the story telling got out of the way of the story. Brilliant!

I was not fortunate enough to have such an experience as described here... but the telling did bring to mind a couple of memories that are well worth recollection, so I again thank you for the memories.

Peace
Storm




stella41b -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 1:07:50 AM)

What a truly fascinating, moving and informative post... Truly.. Thank you for sharing and for bringing back to me some of my memories from the East.




Level -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 3:25:33 AM)

Well done, RS. Thanks for sharing that.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 3:45:37 AM)

Oh, to spend a month with her....with a tape recorder.

She was also smart...a highly valued slave who could please her owners was/is rarely treated poorly. It damaged/s the goods.

Master Fire




CarrieO -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 3:58:31 AM)

Thank you for a beautiful story and a reminder of the cost of true servitude.  It also is a reminder that serving/slavehood goes beyond sexual.....
"She would tell of the Masters that had her trained to sing, or dance or “please a man”.........."  She spoke of him and how he took such good care of her, providing tutors, the finest clothing and making her feel like a “his woman”. "
The "cost"........your number of 1.5 million was perhaps a bit low. Not only lives lost, but lives uprooted and forever changed.
Again....thank you for sharing yet another interesting post.




OmegaG -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 6:03:04 AM)

Thank you for memorializing this.  I am also part Armenian, but unlike your mother, my father didn't want to know anything of his ancestors (snopsis-- my family can be traced to one man who came to this country in 1732 and assimilated, the only clue to my heritage is my sur-name).

This story sheds new light for me on my heritage as most of the history I've gotten about the Armenians cirrculated around the church (they became a Christian country before Rome did) and their struggle with the Ottoman Empire, which only turned ugly when the Empire started crumbling and the Turks, starving in their own country migrated to the better Armenian lands.

Yours sounds like a wealth of information that I'd love to know more.




deliteme -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 6:35:50 AM)

I would love to sit at this womans knee with a camera and tape recorder and just absorb her wisdom...her heart..her soul....The questions I woudl ask.. the tears...the laughter...the joy...

My mother was in a convent for many years as a child and would tell me stories of the nuns she knew and lived with and some of their stories..dating back to the early 1900's.. raised some of the same goosebumps as I got reading your posting.

Both groups of bound women, serving others... doing it with a joy in their hearts... but so very differently




daddysliloneds -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 3:12:11 PM)

you were blessed to have come to know her, but you already know that[;)]




lalbobbilynn -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 3:21:32 PM)

To think a part of this woman was given to You by the time and wisdom she shared with You. To say You are lucky is a grave understatement. Thank You for affording us a small glimpse of what she bestowed upon You.
b.~




ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 6:11:06 PM)

To all,
I am so glad her story moved you and conjured your own intimate recollections.  Your replies are touching.  It makes me wonder how many other people in this world still talk of her?  After all, she only touched my life for a moment and it had a profound effect.  She was a compelling and inspiring woman who’s slave’s heart beats on through her deeds long after she has passed.

The Middle East… I have never been there but I know it is exotic, brutal and passionate.  Much like the Asians, they are cultured barbarians and embrace the differences between men and women instead of trying to erase it like the westerners have. 

Because the Turks tried to wipe the Armenians off the face of the Earth, they burned the libraries and museums.  Many of our greatest thinkers and inventers came out of that region and although the roots to them are lost, the region itself retains their memories in the culture and traditions they left behind… they ‘flavored’ the land. 

I told this story in the spirit and focus in which it was given to me.  She never grimaced or showed malice about being captured by the Turks or that nonconsensual slavery was not the biggest atrocity in her environment.  I imagine that being forced to serve the very men that killed 1.5 million of her people could make it rather hard to find dignity.  Yet she bettered herself, served with her whole heart and found dignity in her life and service.  And as a free woman she spoke of her time as a slave with pride and passion.

Indeed I was a lucky SOB to meet such a pure heart of gold as a young kid.  I eventually found that heart of gold beating in the chest of a young woman that became my consentual slave.  …but that is yet another story…




GreedyTop -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 6:25:59 PM)

RS... all I can say is thank you for sharing that beautiful memory.




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 10:07:49 PM)

I find this post very interesting as a bellydancer myself... although obviously not of the "slave" variety you describe here. 

Within the modern bellydancing world you'll find the majority of dancers trying to cast off the stereotype of a sultan surrounded by a bunch of dancing slave girls, let alone the idea that it's anything but a celebration of a woman's body, something even spiritual perhaps.  They call the entire idea of having a bellydancing slave a myth, a disgrace... and now I'm seeing that this is undoubtedly out of ignorance.  Not necessarily from their own failings or shortcomings, either; as you say, with so much history destroyed during the genocides, it can't be expected to be common knowledge before this point where, thankfully, the plight of the Armenian people is finally coming to light.

That being said, I wonder how many dancers are going to start changing their tune, and if they will accept this newly discovered chapter as a real history of the dance, or if they'll try to gloss over it because it might cast them in a less-than-favorable light.

Thank you for your story.  Up until I read this I was in the camp of "dancing slave girls never happened, it was all a man's fantasy" simply because I didn't know any better, but this story really did touch me deeply... you're right, that woman truly is grace personified to be able to hold her head high and share her wisdom and her story with someone as she did.  I've been cheering for the Armenian people and hoping that they finally get people to recognize the horrors that they endured for so long, and at least on a small scale, this is a step in the right direction.




ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 10:54:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie
Within the modern bellydancing world you'll find the majority of dancers trying to cast off the stereotype of a sultan surrounded by a bunch of dancing slave girls, let alone the idea that it's anything but a celebration of a woman's body...

The older educated dance community must be a little different than what has been your exposure.  I do know a little bit about the origins of the belly dance though and I know you cannot speak of the origins collectively because modern Egyptian, cabaret, tribal, and tribal fusion all have separate roots.  Many of which are not in slavery.  Perhaps that is what your modern dance friends are clinging to?  

It may be Oscar Wilde’s Salome, the popular free gypsy dancers (with coins on costumes) and the Asian belly dancer’s mixed roots that are the reason behind the modern misconceptions that the belly dance has absolutely no roots in slavery. 

However, the Arabic – Middle Eastern dance is another story.  It has deep slave origins; just one look at the dancers and their property tattoos is evidence of that.  You won’t see those harem tats on the Asian or gypsy dancers.  You also probably wont learn this from some glory seeking American performer teaching dance on the side and polluting the origins of the art. 

 
Middle Eastern belly dancing is a harem art, a slaves art… so much so, that they even have a pregnant belly dance.  Imagine a dance to celebrate the pregnancy of your slave, your harem girl.  The reason is that the first girl in a harem to bear a son, becomes the kadin.  The kadin has highest status in the harem unless the sultan’s mother is in the harem too.
 
I have a rough draft web page with some dance links on it, including video links for modern dancers like Ansuya, Rachel Brice, Morgana etc.  You’ll have to weed through the page and the links to ferret out the classic Middle Eastern dances but they are in there to.  You will recognize them by the heart the girls have when they dance.  I literally went through hundreds of video links to find the few that had girls who really danced with their heart. 
http://www.residentsadist.com/private/bdsm-slave-dance-tips.html




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 11:02:26 PM)

Ah... I'm going to disagree with you that "modern" or "American" dancers necessarily are polluting the art -- I find that view to be quite narrow-minded and offensive to me as a bellydancer.  This is a harsh view that can reduce even the strongest of us to tears.  Regardless of our culture, there are those of us who really do dance with our heart, and it is rude to automatically dismiss that just because of where and when we were born.  Personally I love Rachel Brice and I think she's a prime example of this.  (Dolphina, though... oh lord, don't even get me started on that woman, it's not going to end happily.)






ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 11:15:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie
I'm going to disagree with you that "modern" or "American" dancers necessarily are polluting the art --


quote:

"polluting the origins of the art"

You misread my comment.  Not polluting the art, polluting its origins.  Like the story of Salome.  The day an Oscar Wilde becomes the gatekeeper to Middle Eastern fact and history, you can take me out in the street and do a belly dance with shoes on. 

We might as well let Hollywood tell the story of dance... at least there will be a car chase. 




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: -=Belly Dancer Slave, a real nonconsensual slave=- (5/6/2008 11:20:29 PM)

Bellydance with shoes on?  Good lord, there are people who can do that? 

At first glance your comment still looked to be just as offensive, but upon reflecting a bit more am I understanding it properly to state it this way:

"The origins of bellydance are becoming lost in modern times?"

Sorry, I'm just trying to understand what you're trying to say, for some reason I'm not really able to understand you very well.




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