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UncleNasty,
That was very interesting and informative about fiat currency and it's value compared to gold. This was something I had never heard before.
Another thing that I think gets a bum rap is progressive taxation. Most conservatives are very anti-tax....period. But taxes are very important and Kirren this is something very important that you can learn also. YES there is rampant waste in the government and we should take steps to define and stop the waste, but cutting taxes, especially for those at the very top of the wealth pool, is fundamentally unfair to the rest of us down the line, who then have to pick up the burden of their tax cuts. Most republicans will disagree vehemently with me about this.
Progressive taxation - taxing the wealthy at higher rates than the poor - is a moral issue. Like many moral issues, it sparks heated debate. The debate is borne of conflicting worldviews, values and understandings of values. But when we undertand the values and ideas that underlie our position on issues, these arguments appeal to the great majority of Americans whose worldviews borrow in various ways from both progressive and conservative values.
America's government has at least two fundamental functions, protection and empowerment. Protection includes the police, firefighters, emergency services, public health, the military, and so on. Empowerment includes the infrastructure needed for business and everyday life. Roads, communications systems, water supplies, public education, the banking system for loans and economic stability, the SEC for the stock market, the courts for enforcing contracts, air traffic control, support for basic science, our national parks and public buildings, and more. We are usually aware of protection. But the empowerment infrastructure, provided by taxes, is usually taken for granted, hidden, or ignored. Yet it is absolutely crucial, a fundmental truth about America and why America provides opportunity.
Taxes are part of our common wealth, what we all share. Protection and empowerment serve the common good. Because of our common wealth, we are all protected and America's empowering infrastructure is available to all. THAT is a fundamental American value. The common wealth should serve the common good. It benefits everyone.
Citizens are financially responsible to maintain this common wealth. If we shirked this responsibility, we could not maintain our roads, fund our schools, protects ourselves from military threats, enforce our laws, and so on. Equally important, we could not create prosperity for ourselves, because we would have no protection of our intellectual property, no oversight of our markets, no means to enforce our contracts, no way to educate most of our children.
Several main progressive values support the idea of progressive taxation. One is the belief the the common wealthy should be used for the common good. Another is respnsibility, the responsibility that citizens have to pay for the benefits we receive from our common wealth. And still another is fairness. These values intertwine on the question of progressive taxation.
Few people dispute this responsibility at some level. Disagreement generally arises ove the amount and the relative apportionment of the responsibility. Differing concepts of fairness drive this debate. While many progressives say it is only fair that those who earn more, pay a highter percentage of their earnings as taxes compared to those who have difficulty making ends meet. Conservatives respond by asserting that it is unfair to "punish" the financially successful by making them pay more.
An important point of lost in this debate is an appreciation that the common wealth, which our taxes create and sustain, empowers the wealthy in myriad ways to create their wealth. We call this compound empowerment - the compounded use of the common wealth by corporations, their investors, and other wealthy indviduals. Consider Bill Gates. He started Microsoft as a college dropout and has become the world's richest person. Though he has undoubtedly benefited from his unusual intelligence and busineness acumen, he could not have created or sustained his personal wealth without the common wealth. The legal system protected Microsoft's intellectual property and contracts. The tax-supported financial infrastructure enabled him to access capital markets and trade his stock in a market in which invetors have confidence. He built his company with many employees educated in public schools and universities. Tax-funded research helped develop computer science and the internet. Trade laws negotiated and enforced by the government protect his ability to sell his products abroad. These are but a few of the ways in which Mr. Gate's accumulationg of wealth was empowered by the common wealth and by taxation. As Warren Buffet pointed out, he likely couldn't have achieved his financial success had he been born in Bangladesh instead of the United Stats, because Bangladesh had no banking system and no stock market.
Ordinary people just drive on the highway; corporations send fleets of trucks. Ordinary people may get a bank load for their mortgages; corporations borrow money to buy whole companies. Ordinary people rarely use the courts; most of the courts are used for corporate law and contract disputes. Corporations and their investors- those who have accumulated enough money beyond basic needs so they can invest - make much more use, compound use, of the empowering infrastructure provided by everybody's tax money. The wealthy had made greater use of the common good - they have been empowered by it in creating their wealth - and thus have a greater moral obligation to sustain it. They are merely paying their debt to society in arrears and investing in future empowerment.
This is the fundamental truth that motivates progressive taxation. It is a truth that undercuts conservative arguments about taxation. Taxes provide and maintain the protecting and empowering infrastructure that makes our income possible. Our tax forms hide this truth. They do not indicate the extend to which taxes have created and sustained the common wealth so that you could what you have. They make it look like the empowering infrastructure was just put there by magic and that the government is taking money out of your pocket. The most likely truth is that, through the common wealth, America put more money in your pocket than it took out - by far.
But this situation is threatened by conservative tax policy. Through unfair cuts in taxes paid by the wealthy, through payment for the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and through borrowing abroad to pay for the tax cuts and Iraq, the common wealth is being drained and the infrastructure allowed to fall apart. We need to return to a fair tax policy that recognizes financial responsibility incurred by the compound use of America's empowering infrastructure.
sorry..I got carried away.
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