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DomAviator -> RE: Can some one PLEASE break this down for Me? (5/10/2008 10:57:38 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Is it not true that one needs to be fully proficient and have a pilot`s license before joining the ANG?
Bush had neither of those and still was able to jump ahead of the line.
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Careful,that guy sees facts and real events as liberal propaganda.
As one can see,he follows the Rove talking points,where nothing is real,real is fake and cowards are heroes.
He actually thinks the last 8 years were good and would vote for Bush again,given the chance.
He also claims to have been in the military,...I doubt it.
First of all - no you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT have to have a "pilot's license". As a matter of fact, I didnt even obtain an airman's certificate until I had six years of active duty in the US Navy with a 1315 designator (Unrestricted Line Officer, Naval Aviator, Reserve Commission). My first "pilot's license" was an ATP-ASMEL (Airline Transport Pilot - Airline Single and Multi Engine Land) on the basis of my having 1500+ flight hours and I got it because I wanted to rent a Cessna to do some sight seeing and couldnt get one at the aeroclub so I needed an FAA airman's certificate to rent off base. (There is no "pilot's license" it is an "airman's certificate") Military pilots fly on the basis of their rating as a military aviator they dont have "licenses" or any FAA paperwork.
While it has changed somewhat, when I went through, having any civilian flight experience - such as a private pilot certificate would disqualify you. Civilian flying and military flying are two very different animals, and many - myself included based on my experiences as an IP (instructor pilot) teaching both primary and intermediate at various points - feel that civilian experience is a severe detriment to a students progress in military pilot training. Case in point, civilians are taught to fly visually (with reference to the horizon) and after being licensed SOME then go on to obtain an instrument rating. Military flight instruction begins with instrument flight from Hop 1. The ridgid structure of the program does not lend itself to unlearning bad habits. Bust two hops and you are going home... The aircraft used are also vastly different. The T-34C Turbomentor used in Primary is a hot little turboprop and most commercial pilots wont fly anything close to it in performance until they have 500+ hours - Student Naval Aviators solo it within 15 hours or they are gone... Now the Air Force, as of the past two years or so IS getting its pilot candidates a private license prior to primary flight training BUT it is not taught under Part 61 to civilian stanmdards at the local FBO it is a specific curriculum taught under contract for them by Embry Riddle University as contractor. The Navy - which also trains the Marines and Coast Guard continues to keep it "in house"...
So NO, Bush met the qualifications which are to have a baccalaurate degree, pass the aptitude test, pass an officer selection board, pass OCS, be commissioned, complete API (Aviation Preflight Indoctrination) , complete Primary and intermediate flight training and then you are winged and move on to your operational (Advanced) training.
As for your comments about "He claims to have been in the military, I doubt it" well I really don't care what you believe or don't. As you said previously, "your a tradesman" so I suggest you devote less time to trying to decide what you do or dont believe about someone 2000 miles away on the Internet and more time to how you can reduce your prices and remain competitive with the illegal immigrant dayworkers... [:D] My life should have no bearing on yours at all - so stop obsessing sonny, its unhealthy....
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