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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 3:37:37 AM

RavenMuse

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
i don't take my promises lightly and never promise what i cannot deliver. That's our dynamic. YMMV

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse
frankly do I want a girl who can't stick to a commitment, she expects that where I say X will happen it happens, she comes to rely on that, she relies on My taking control, enforcing the rules, maintaining the bounderies of the relationship... I uphold MY commitments to her if she can't do the same for Me then she is of little worth to Me.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 3:46:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

The great paradox of an Owner/slave relationship is that the slave has ultimate control, by virtue of the fact that he or she may leave the relationship at any time. If the slave's physical, emotional or spiritual needs, to include his or her inherent need for self-realization (the development or fulfillment of one's potential) are not being met over time, then yes absolutely, he or she should leave, and has a perfect right to.
you only have one life. In it, you should be afforded, and you should afford yourself the opportunity to reach your potential.

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My relationship is very much like luci's ( hope I spelt that right if not I am very sorry) I am in this for the long haul, I am only allowed to leave when I go to the summerland and that may be debatable. While we do live and die by the words Obey or Leave I have found in the last nine years the times when I gave into old defenses when the going got tough and tried to leave that he wasn't quite done with me yet and I was not quite done obeying yet.

Life as this slave is not a bed of roses, sometimes needs are not met, at least not right away and wants are always iffy but the right to leave is not mine to make. I knew this upon entering this relationship that unless he was done he owns me lock stock and barrel and even if he is done I may not be released but placed in the corner forgotten ( figurative corner). Again in my case this what was agreed upon and entered into willingly.

Each person has to make their own way thru life, and make their own decisions upon entering a realtionship that best suit them. Legally a person can not be held against their will, so in the context of the OP yes a slave can leave or stay. However I will say that not having the choice to leave or stay is a wonderful thing and the most freeing experience LOL okay so I may have a wee prejudice to this way of living.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 4:25:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

The great paradox of an Owner/slave relationship is that the slave has ultimate control, by virtue of the fact that he or she may leave the relationship at any time.

i can't imagine having the "ultimate control" in my relationship with Master. He is the One who is in complete control, right down to how "internalized" my slavery is.
Can i leave? Certainly - OUTSIDE of my M/s relationship, i have the same rights that any other US citizen has.
Would i leave? There MAY have been times very early on in O/our relationship that wreaked of "what in God's name was i thinking?" (Master says He had those same thoughts), but never got to the question of leaving.
Can/Would i leave now? i'd like to believe that i'm at a stage where my commitment to Him has become a moral issue, and going back on it would be devistating for me. It's something that i could never bring myself to do.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 4:59:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: atendersoul

Does a slave really have an "open door" policy wheither they can leave or stay?

fantasy: no - slave stays with said master ...for better or worse until the end of time

reality: depends on the relationship and what was decided before submission was given.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 5:58:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming
The great paradox of an Owner/slave relationship is that the slave has ultimate control,

There's a hidden sexism in this kind of remarks -- that a man would never want to end a relationship with a woman he has sexual power over. Dreamer, I hope you noticed all the pushback here. It is true that there are a lot of articles on the internet that use the same sentence you used. My suggestion: take the articles you are reading with a bigger grain of salt.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 11:57:38 AM

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Technically, yes I could leave...however, will Master just let me go back to doing what I did before He collared me? Hell no...He has told me that I can run, but He will always find me ~smiles~ And since that makes me feel loved, wanted, and safe...the only place I will run, is TO Him, not away...which is so different from my past, it's not even funny...in the past, I've run from that which scared me, but since being collared to Master, I've grown, matured, and realized why I was running and with Master's help and my beloved sister's support, I've worked through most of the issues that would have me run from Him...now, I can talk to Him about what I'm feeling and know He will support me 110%

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 1:15:16 PM

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A slave can not leave and stay in any type of relationship with the Master. It is all or nothing. The longer they have been together, the more likely their will be no desire to leave. Legally a slave can always leave but emotionally that is a totally different situation.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 1:29:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: atendersoul

Does a slave really have an "open door" policy wheither they can leave or stay?

Depends...

There may be nothing physically stopping them from leaving... but as others have observed, there can be emotional barriers and psychological barriers that effectively keep them there. There may also be financial considerations as well... Sure, you can leave, where ya gonna get cab fare? Some want those barriers as part of their enslavement, others are terrified of such situations. It really depends on the individuals and the dynamic they create for themselves.

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RE: owning a slave... - 5/10/2008 4:17:43 PM

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It sounds like a form of Stockholm syndrome - and may well be. All except the lifethreatening part of the relationship.

My Sir has always said if i want to leave - don't let the door hit you on the butt - but that he loves me and our relationship more and more every day. How could I leave such a relationship where i am loved and cared for beyond anything i could have imagined. Most of what we do on a daily basis looks vanilla (if you could overlook the fact that i am naked) but my submission is internal, and there all the time. Just as my Sirs domination is alway there, and our roles are constant.

would i leave if he became unable to "dominate" me - i like to think not, because my submission is not just skin deep - its bone deep!

I have told him that the only way i would leave is if he kicked me out- and he told me i was safe - he didn't want to pay someone $100 to move the china hutch again- lol.

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