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junecleaver -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 2:19:16 PM)

Hm, yes I've given submission almost instantly.  He was super intelligent and hot and made me all ooey gooey.  It was fun and the world didn't end! 

I don't think of my submission as a gift or as anything all that special.  I am a special snowflake all by myself, but my submission....that's just a part of my relationships.  I think of it as a way I relate to certain people.  So if it feels natural to relate to someone in a submissive manner, then why not do it?  I don't use my submission to manipulate someone before I submit to them (not to imply that you do, it's just seems like a common occurence).  Like, 'You better tow the line, bitch.  I'm not your submissive yet!'  For me, it takes very little time to figure out if I want to submit or not, because it's got a lot to do with chemistry that's hard to fake.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 2:39:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

Well, considering you already profess to belong to someone, Id be asking too--not that I expect imstamt submission--but I'd wonder where your head was--and given the fact that you belong to someone why would you be entertaining chats with another in the realm of D---s???

my head rests squarely on my shoulders.

yes i belong to Daddy and yes He owns me ...oh yeah, i'm allowed with His permission to meet other dominants because (drum roll here) it's His wish that i meet someone local as we have a Daddy-daughter ldr.





MladyHathor -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 3:00:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

Well, considering you already profess to belong to someone, Id be asking too--not that I expect imstamt submission--but I'd wonder where your head was--and given the fact that you belong to someone why would you be entertaining chats with another in the realm of D---s???

my head rests squarely on my shoulders.

yes i belong to Daddy and yes He owns me ...oh yeah, i'm allowed with His permission to meet other dominants because (drum roll here) it's His wish that i meet someone local as we have a Daddy-daughter ldr.




Then IMHO any Dominant has the right to question your depth or intent to depth of submission as you might not fit what is sought--if the context is "kneel bitch" I'd respond wtih--oh did the Queen come in to the room?
 
 




LordMaster50 -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 4:24:23 PM)

But how is one to find out if you are Bull Shitting them without asking the question?
I like to belive that it is better to propect a sub or slave without question.
Being a sub or slave dose not mean that you are stuped. I would hope that If I asked you this question you would give my your best answer. Then I would ask you futher questions to get to know you better. I do fully understand there a lot of Ass Holes who want to hurt there sub or slaves just to show others that they are very stuped. I for one try to take very good care of my people( subs ans slave) it is stuped on my part to hurt any one. We all are part of a team and the goal is to be sucsefull and spending money in medical bill is Stupid on the Masters part.
Lord_Master




baddog123 -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 4:53:24 PM)

So as one needing the advice of a learned scholar, How is one to gain the trust of a submissive or slave? Life is always so complicated. At times I yearn to find someone to take care of me, to tend to my needs. To supply the relief that I crave. To be my diversion from the reality that fate has dealt me. I feel I deserve this bit of happiness. In talking with girls that I get a good feeling about, I feel I need to be kind, and not demanding, as I am anyway in the rest of my life. Yet because I treat them with respect or kindness I wonder if this is interpolated as a sign of weakness or lack of resolve. Is it not true that you want a connection you feel in your heart? Don't all humans need this? How can one demand anything he has not earned? Yet at the same time, The purist slaves, or the submissive claim to NEED this demanding guidance. It is a conundrum I have yet to solve. I wish I were better at putting my thoughts together. How can one get a better chance to elaborate? I guess I have blown my chances with a girl I am fond of. One who has great feeling and emotion. One who harbors a great sadness of her own. She tugged at my heart strings with her troubled writings and made me wonder if we could help each other find some joy and escape. It takes time to let out my inner thoughts, as I don't have them all sorted out for myself as of yet. I hope in reading this she will better try to better understand me and where I was coming from. Thank you for indulging me. Mike




justaDallasgirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 5:10:25 PM)

if a Dom wants me to prove my submissiveness then He had better prove His Dominance and show me my place. i am not submissive for anyone who does not make me feel submissive.




Mercnbeth -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 7:37:09 PM)

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if you're submissive/slave, would you instantly submit to dominant?


yes.  but then, this slave is in posession of a submissive personality, trained in her formative years to respond submissively to others, prefers to be the submissive partner in an intimate relationship and is oriented as submissive in the bedroom/dungeon...so, what else is there left to do?  pretend to dominate and play hard to get?
 
Master and this slave exchanged e-mails, chatted online and talked on the phone for one week before we met in person.  the day we met, this slave submitted to Him, completely, as far as He wanted to go.  she hasn't submitted to anyone else since, without His permission.
 
call it worthless and cheap because it is given so easily, but it's just how this slave rolls.
 
5 years and a whole lifetime of breathtaking moments later, it has been the most fulfilling relationship she has ever had, vanilla or otherwise.




corsetgirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 7:47:51 PM)

I had a message from this site from a male submissive and even his handle implies that he is submissive but told me he is now a switch.  I told him that I don't switch.  He wanted to dominate me but would I be so kind to see him on that day to model my corsets for him?  Uh, no, nada, nil, nyet, zilch, zero chance on that suggestion since I have not see him face to face and meet him somewhere out in public. 

Then he wanted to talk and play on the phone.  I kindly explained to him that I may be a submissive but I just don't submit to anybody.  I also have a life, too!  I also don't submit to those who are lazy not to change their profiles to be honest with themselves and I avoid the trolls and HNG's at all costs.




slavegirljoy -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 8:25:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

if you're submissive/slave, would you instantly submit to dominant? 

It depends on how you define "instant".  i've never submitted to someone the first second they started talking or chatting with me but, i have submitted on first dates and those led to second dates which led to more. 
 
It also depends on how you define "submission".  If it's being submissive to do what you are told, then i have submitted after 1 e-mail and 1 IM session, by being told to be online at a cetain time to continue the discussion and by being told to call at a certain time to have a phone conversation and and i did it.  No, i wasn't asked to call or get online, i was told to and, my answer was "Yes, Sir."  And, i was happy to do it.  i simply call it "being interested in that person and making myself available to persue a relationship with him." 
 
But, it's also a matter of what exactly i am being told to do.  Being told to call or get online at a certain time isn't anything that i have a problem doing.   If i had been told to do something very unappealing or ridiculous, just to see if i would do it, such as to go find a pile of dog poo in the yard and smear it on me and take some pics and then e-mail them to him, my answer would have been, "sorry, pal, you got the wrong gal.  bye-bye." 
 
Sorry, if that was really gross but, i think i made my point.  It all depends on the particulars of the situation.
 
joy
Owned servant of Master David




MasterFireMaam -> RE: instant submission? (5/11/2008 8:56:40 PM)

I'm turned off by most who will submit to just anyone. In my experience, they are usually the more 'desperate' type. Keep in mind, there's a difference between being respectful to everyone and actually submitting to just anyone that comes along.

Master Fire




mastersvixen -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 4:43:15 AM)

I have already had the experience of a couple Dom's assuming they can "Dom" me in the first message or two, I may be submissive but I'm not stupid.  I'm sorry but when does one think it's okay to waltz in and demand subservience because they hold a "Dom" title.  The only person that has the right is one's OWN Master/Dom whatever.  It's fine to discuss being a submissive hell alot of people come here to discuss and meet people with similar interests and just because it's a BDSM site have people forgotten their manners???  To expect submission after two or three messages  .... ermm reality check maybe....?  My advice ignore the guy, simple.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 5:05:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mastersvixen

I'm sorry but when does one think it's okay to waltz in and demand subservience because they hold a "Dom" title. 

i would like to touch on that - he kept using (whenever i would reply in direct opposite of what he was saying) this simple phrase: I'm Dom.  my reply back to him would - and? you're Dom big deal.  it was his way to not listening to me and to what i had to say.

quote:

Then IMHO any Dominant has the right to question your depth or intent to depth of submission

they may have that right however it would be pointless in exercising that right esp when you haven't met the submissive/slave in question yet.  he and i were on different levels in this - he was on "let's session and have sex now" while i was "let's see if we're compatible". 






SleepyDom -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 5:12:52 AM)

All of you (yes you dommes too) submit to me right now, this instant!  Or else!

Sorry, couldn't resist.




mastersvixen -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 5:16:57 AM)

Hehe made me giggle, seriously c'mon it's obvious the guy is a bit far up his own arse if he can assume that so early on  ...




OmegaG -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 6:30:47 AM)

With just the snippet that you've shared with us, I think you might be a bit hypersensitive and you may have assumed he meant more then he did with his comment.

I also wonder if, though you are instructed to look for someone local, if your heart is truly in the search or if you prefer that there are reasons to disqualify people.




willowspirit -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 6:56:16 AM)

Sometimes things happen. Sometimes, though very rarely, even in emails, my brain goes numb, and I don't know what to do. Some people's personalities or initial contacts are a mix of making me feel  those "hopeful possibilities" and yet I feel an awareness of them pushing me to do something I don't really want to do.
In risk of drawing more fakers and wankers to my "Inbox", in those rare instances, I may instantly submit. But in a very short period of time I DO come to my senses and stop myself... see the reality of what just happened, and I'll get myself back on track to finding out more about the person behind the emails.

There are times too, when I have gotten myself into a situation where all I want to do is get out and away as safely as possible.. and as fast as possible... so I might mildly submit, just to give him some sense of satisfaction with himself, so I don't get him mad. I get away and never allow contact  -- Of ANY kind -- again! To him, I just disappeared.

Regret is a bitter poison to my soul, so I try to avoid things I may soon regret.

In person -- have I EVER instantly submitted?
Yes, and 95% of those times, I kicked myself for having done such a stupid thing!
It's like there's a few Dominant people who have this specific radio broadcasting frequency, KDOM, and my inner radio receiver is set to that  exact  frequency.
Even without knowing any facts about them, AND EVEN  sometimes  when I KNOW His facts and details are not compatible with my life, I end up succumbing. That specific "broadcasting frequency" is like a trigger. I both hate myself for this .. and love myself for this. What makes all the difference in the world, is whether or not the Dominant is  --- at His very core --- a Good person, an experienced Dominant for what just happened, and if He takes responsibility,  --- AND MOST IMPORTANTLY  --- what is He going to DO about it now ???

Over the past couple of years, I have learned to try and control myself and communicate this aspect of myself to possible Dominants BEFORE  we ever meet. If I get the feeling they are simply going to exploit me for this,  or if they turn into some drooling baboon, I refuse to meet. Out of fear, what if these people happen to have that "wave length" trigger, then I would be putting myself in danger  --  Not something I wish to do! [ Regret avoidance!]

By telling them, I also hope they recognize their own ineptness at dealing with this type of submissive, and that they refuse to accept this responsibility and that they simple and honestly just to say so !

For safety, I force myself to exchange more emails here, then emails and Instant Messenger chat elsewhere, then some phone conversations, then meeting in a public place. If they are "broadcasting" in my danger trigger level,  I will know by then... but I am still safe.

Okay -- I know I sound like a complete flake to some of you, but to others I know this will ring a chord in you. That's why I decided to share it.

To Sambamanslilgirl:
I don't think you are at all like me in this, but I want to thank you for asking the question.




pinkwind -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 7:22:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl
if you're submissive/slave, would you instantly submit to dominant?


i am a deeply respectful person, some may see that as a submissive trait straight off, which i think is correct though not what i would call real submission. To me and to those i have submitted to, the only two people on the planet, there is a big difference, and the pity is that some prospective Masters and Doms have been so narrowly focused on themselves and having their ego massaged by what they think is instant submission rather than respectfulness that i have almost felt sorry for them.

With the right person the transition from deep respect to submission is almost imperceptible, and happened very soon after meeting the two people i have submitted to. With others i met whilst looking the only thing they ever had from me was respect, and at worst grudging at that. i have never been able to submit to every Dominant person who has crossed my path, but when the chemistry has been right submission has been swift on the heels of respectfulness.







subsfaith -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 9:42:05 AM)

For the few weeks previous that we had been chatting online and on the phone there was no dominance from him at all and no submission from me, jsut two new friends getting to know each other.  We completely avoided discussing D/s in personal terms, but we did discuss our philosphies of D/s.

However the moment I met him face to face I was instantly compelled to submit.... it was at that point I just knew....

:: smiles ::




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 12:21:47 PM)

i didn't have to assume anything nor am i hypersensitive over his comment.  he was rushing towards this and i was the one telling him to slow down.

i cannot stress enough the fact that we haven't met yet ...i hardly know the guy ...not even sure if we're compatible kink and non-kink wise. perhaps i'm wired differently than most but i'm not going to discuss submission with a dominant so early (whatever you want to call it) between us.

in this case - yes i do have more than a good reason to disqualify him.






OsideGirl -> RE: instant submission? (5/12/2008 7:38:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordMaster50

I would hope that If I asked you this question you would give my your best answer. Then I would ask you futher questions to get to know you better.
My submission is only PART of who I am, it does not make up the entirety of me. So, if you wanted to get to know me better, you'd be better off not asking about it. Quite frankly leads me to believe that you're more interested in WHAT I am (a submissive) rather than WHO I am.




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