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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 6:00:14 AM   
takenbyhim


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Funny thing is i chatted with him last night on yahoo.



I rest my case.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 8:51:01 AM   
FLButtSlut


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Funny thing is i chatted with him last night on yahoo.



I rest my case.



You miss the point. HE is regularly contacting others to whine about your behavior and to beg them to consider him.

Sorry if you find the truth about this man painful to deal with, and I think it is admirable of you to try to help him get the help he needs. Sadly, before any help is going to do him any good, he needs to realize that he has more problems and issues than being depressed. YOU can't help him do that, and YOU would be wise to search for someone else for the long term.

It is one thing to honestly seek advice and help from others. But when the drama continues endlessly, with the "seeker" never taking advice or steps to improve the situation, it becomes obvious that they aren't seeking advice or help, but simply looking for someone to commiserate with them and feel sorry for their situation. I KNOW that is what your "master" does, as do at least 4 others that post here on this board. We know this because he had come whining to us, not the other way around.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 2:06:01 PM   
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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 3:02:35 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		i realize now who this is, and the man described in here, is not the man i have come to call friend.....yes there is 2 sides to every story and i warned him he was setting himself up for heartache


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ORIGINAL: sweetpettjenny

well you don't know the other side of the coin ...he is a friend and has been lied to. There are three sides of a story. his , hers and the truth. lets not blast him unless you know the wholeeee truth.



< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 10/21/2005 4:12:47 PM >

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 3:06:24 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		well i was never rejected by him nor was i trying to gain his attn....he is a friend ----period---like i said previously,in a post ,i warned him he was going to get hurt.good luck to all the parties involved.one of the reasons i stand by my saying monogamy is best, and NOt for people to be involved w/ more than 1 at a time.i undertand his anger and grief



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ORIGINAL: takenbyhim

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Relationships are never perfect, and while sometimes it is understandable to seek the advice of others (such as those on the message board), this situation seems to be nothing more than a couple of immature adults who are going to try to drag the rest of us into their little drama


When I first read the above post, I was a little pissed. But ya know.......absolutely everything you say is truth. We are immature adults, but ain't nobody dragging you or sweetpettjenny into this story. It's time both of you climb down from your high horses and reveal YOURSELVES for the very active and completely engaged participants in this "immature saga" that you are. Both of you have been involved in this drama even before I came along. I'm sorry that sweetpettjenny feels rejected by the man in question. I had nothing to do with THAT. That is between the two of them and I could care less if he refused her advances toward him or not.

I am washing my hands of this whole mess. Perhaps I shouldn't have come here seeking advice. But there is no use crying over spilt milk now (thanks mom for that one too). I will say, however, that there were several people here who gave some information that I have been able to use to get help for this man. To those individuals, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. To those of you that gave harsh, but sincere critique, I bow to you for your wisdom and your backbone to say what needed to be said. And to the rest of you that are bitter and resentful because you feel you have been made a fool of............well.....hey, what can I say...........welcome to the club.

Adios



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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 3:08:27 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		his seeking support and advice is no different than your seeking advice and support-he just doesnt broadcast it in public.

afterthought:was deleted from post b/c i do not wish to betray a confidence


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Funny thing is i chatted with him last night on yahoo.



I rest my case.



< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 10/21/2005 4:14:11 PM >

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 4:32:45 PM   
sweetpettjenny


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Status: offline 		thats why i said there is two sides....He is hurting , and why should he be chastized when he isn't here to defend himself. He was warned from many friends. He wanted to be loved in a manner in which he loved, He was made promises that were not kept. I always say broken promises are hard to overlook.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 4:36:13 PM   
sweetpettjenny


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Status: offline 		ps. he was only ever a friend to myself as well..and thats because thats what it started as and thats what WE wanted. I never had any feelings other than friendship , and we confided in each other and still do as friends. I don't need to change my name or hide to make a post...i stand behind who i am as a person.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/21/2005 6:46:53 PM   
FLButtSlut


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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

his seeking support and advice is no different than your seeking advice and support-he just doesnt broadcast it in public.



I am on neither side of this drama, but in reality, he definately HAS broadcast it in public on another thread.

I think the third side of this story is the one that people should be paying attention to. Each is causing the other grief with their behavior whether it be indecisiveness or being demanding.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 5:01:32 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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Status: offline 		agreed

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 5:26:34 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		didnt realize that at the time--i'm always a day late and a dollar short,lol. but yeah....ur right

i posted some very strong opinions about how one should run....then when i found some more things out later, well........it was so much more understandable....the pain involved is not good for either.
i wish all concerned well............





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ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut


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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

his seeking support and advice is no different than your seeking advice and support-he just doesnt broadcast it in public.



I am on neither side of this drama, but in reality, he definately HAS broadcast it in public on another thread.

I think the third side of this story is the one that people should be paying attention to. Each is causing the other grief with their behavior whether it be indecisiveness or being demanding.




< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 10/22/2005 5:28:24 AM >

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 5:30:41 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		being led on and played is always awful....no matter the circumstance

and ya'll have stated several times 3 versions to every story...........

shrugs shoulders, not much any of us can do.....





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ORIGINAL: sweetpettjenny

thats why i said there is two sides....He is hurting , and why should he be chastized when he isn't here to defend himself. He was warned from many friends. He wanted to be loved in a manner in which he loved, He was made promises that were not kept. I always say broken promises are hard to overlook.



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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 9:43:52 AM   
fyreredsub


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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

darn, I am so new to the boards I have no idea who this is all about.


i am on IM right now w/ the man in question. he does pose some very interesting thoughts in response to why this was all started

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 10:23:47 AM   
FLButtSlut


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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

i am on IM right now w/ the man in question. he does pose some very interesting thoughts in response to why this was all started


I would imagine that he does. The main "problem" is the old cliche, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twices..." When people CHOOSE to take a risk a second time when BOTH know that there are some serious unresolved issues, the pain that results (in this case) was repeated forwarned.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/22/2005 10:53:26 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		actually i was referring to the thread as he states his girl was w/ him when op first posted and that they are very much still together. i suggested,since this is the case,that he write to the cm powers that be and have them trace the ip of poster as this is a cookie tracking site. this will put an end to the speculation for him.


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ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut


quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

i am on IM right now w/ the man in question. he does pose some very interesting thoughts in response to why this was all started


I would imagine that he does. The main "problem" is the old cliche, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twices..." When people CHOOSE to take a risk a second time when BOTH know that there are some serious unresolved issues, the pain that results (in this case) was repeated forwarned.



< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 10/22/2005 11:09:09 AM >

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/23/2005 11:21:17 AM   
TheONEyouneed


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Status: offline 		Just as an outside observer, it appears that one of the dynamics in this scenario is that the "Dom" in question communicates with a whole harem of eager submissives, all prepared to take this man at his word. I am curious as to whether or not any of these "other women" have seen fit to contact the submissive directly before believing everything they are told in "private e-mails and messages" by the Dom, and if not, why not? And has it ever occurred to any of them, that they might be being used by the Dom to do his dirty work? Just a thought. Either way, I do not think Master or submissive should be using the message boards to air their dirty laundry.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/23/2005 11:31:05 AM   
greenie


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Status: offline 		i learned the HARD way to just STAY OUT OF IT! i once had friends who were married and having marital difficulties. They both wanted to lean on me and be an ear for them. Here i was getting 2 different sob stories, 2 differents sets of complaints, and 2 different people wanting me to say they are right. Next thing i know i'm in the middle of the whole mess! As a person who cares deeply for those closest to me i wanted to help but in truth i was just an enabler. There came a point when i had to contact them both and tell them that i could no longer be that person for them. i lost 2 very good friends because of this. If i had just been their friend, been there for them, w/o getting so involved in the details. i should have just said "i'm so sorry you're going through this and i'll be there as much as i can w/o getting in the middle. i'm still here and i'm still your friend but this is between you both and that's where the issues need to be discussed. i'll be here when you need a shoulder to cry on." If 2 people honestly care about someone they should never ask that person to choose between them.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/23/2005 2:14:34 PM   
sweetpettjenny


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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/23/2005 8:50:55 PM   
Sunshine119


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ORIGINAL: takenbyhim

I know it sounds like I am making excuses for him.....and I guess I do want to give him every benefit of the doubt, but more importantly.........I don't want to abandon him. He needs our help.


Take it from someone who runs a social service agency. He may need your help but moving in with him isn't the help he needs. You can be supportive without living with him and being subject to his emotional abuse. You can help find him sliding scale psychiatric/psychological services without being in the same state even. In fact, all hospitals around the country that take federal or state funded federal dollars have to provide charity care. Those limits are quite high.

Then, when you have waited to see whether or not he can get his act together, go to him. Just being bossy doesn't make one a dominant. It's not possible to Dominate anyone else unless you are in control of yourself.

Good luck....remember You aren't abandoning him, but rather forcing him to answer for his own life.

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RE: Petulant, spoiled, bratty - 10/24/2005 9:34:36 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		a friend is a friend, is a friend....gender or role matters not.
i am not another woman, and i generally do take my friends at their word.if that is wrong so be it, i live by my own code.

telling someone to contact cm powers that be to see whom did the anonymous posting is not doing someone's dirty work.........it is helping them to get to the bottom of an issue that bothers them.

most threads on here have somthing to do w/ someon'e issues about something.

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ORIGINAL: TheONEyouneed

Just as an outside observer, it appears that one of the dynamics in this scenario is that the "Dom" in question communicates with a whole harem of eager submissives, all prepared to take this man at his word. I am curious as to whether or not any of these "other women" have seen fit to contact the submissive directly before believing everything they are told in "private e-mails and messages" by the Dom, and if not, why not? And has it ever occurred to any of them, that they might be being used by the Dom to do his dirty work? Just a thought. Either way, I do not think Master or submissive should be using the message boards to air their dirty laundry.



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