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RE: Ironic - 10/21/2005 5:10:46 PM   
MasterBenedict


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I was once DECKED by a 'lady' when I was goling to one of my classes for doing that exact same thing!!
So, thank you girl!!!
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RE: Ironic - 10/21/2005 7:12:05 PM   
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I guess it is a sign of the times, but I find it ironic that a site called Collarme cannot allow pictures of bondage in the profiles.

It isn't a sign of the times at all -- it is a sign of a presidential administration that has a moral agenda to cram down our throats. I recall that you and merc were the most ardent Bush supporters around here leading up to the last election, and I find it ironic you call it "a sign of the times" instead of accepting partial responsibility for the actions of the guy that you and others voted for.

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RE: Ironic - 10/21/2005 8:10:04 PM   
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RE: Ironic - 10/21/2005 10:13:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like other have stated, it does matter that this site can not choose to allow bondage photos or other types of images. It matters because last month new legislation (HR 3726) was introduced that demonstrated what many already believed -- 2257 was merely a foundation to build on. It matters because some political groups are once again using the transparent "protect the children!" cattle call (see the CDA, COPA) to attack the adult industry and free expression. It matters because the new Al-Capone tactic may be effective where past attempts have failed.

To me, it matters.

I will respectfully disagree with the statement that complaining is pointless. It just depends on how you complain, who you are complaining to, and if those complaining have any money. ;)

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RE: Ironic - 10/21/2005 11:24:04 PM   
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To me, it matters.

I will respectfully disagree with the statement that complaining is pointless. It just depends on how you complain, who you are complaining to, and if those complaining have any money. ;)


I agree!
Where has "You Have To Fight For Your Right" gone?
Come on people, there should be some kind of net-working, to stop
this Insane Bullshit!!!!

Active Apathy makes me Sick!

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 12:20:29 AM   
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the Moderators gave me that nick because I am so smart and I wear pants


Yeah, that's why I did it. Good to see you, hope all is well with you and yours.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 12:58:54 AM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		Just because I may not like the fact that Collarme must be careful with what pictures are allowed on here doesn't mean that I think it is a life or death situation. These things always ebb and flow. I can still remember Howard Stern ranting about the FCC fining him even when Clinton was in office. Were you so concerned then? Clinton certainly was no supporter of Howard Stern's freedom of expression. And did you also forget Tipper Gore's crusade against the "evil" Rock music lyrics in the 80's? Since Tipper is married to Al Gore, I am pretty sure she isn't a Republican. This is nothing new. The only reason you are squawking now is because you hate George Bush.
Where is the outrage with the freedoms being taken away by the Left? Who do you think is behind the banning of cigarette smoking? In West Hollywood (which might have 2 Republicans), they want to make it illegal to even smoke in your own apartment, lest any bit of second smoke is smelled by a neighbor. You can't even smoke outdoors (forget indoors) in many places here in California. And where is the outrage when our City Council in Los Angeles is trying to make it illegal for dancers and customers to be closer than 6 feet apart in all topless or nude dance clubs? Last I looked, our City Council is not full of Republicans. And let's not forget banning junk food in schools, or trying to regulate the fast food industry. Or the politically correct speech codes that strangle any kind of dissent in our colleges? Does that bother you? Probably not. Because these restrictions all come from the Left. You really believe that if John Kerry would have won, things would be any different? Keep dreaming. There would be no Kerry Fetish Ball. (At least not publicly).
Though it bothers me that some pics (including some of mine) will not be shown here, I am certainly not going to get hysterical about it. In the large scheme of things, I understand that the pendulum always swings back and forth. Some people will always cry that the sky is falling. Especially if it suits their agenda.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 6:37:20 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Can you give an example of this, or are you just talking through your hat? Every college and university in America has the equivalent of a Committee on Academic Freedom, and students who believe that their voices are being muzzled can march in there any day of the week and lodge a complaint.

College campuses are just about the only place in America where free speech still exists.

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Or the politically correct speech codes that strangle any kind of dissent in our colleges? Does that bother you? Probably not.


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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 8:40:08 AM   
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Can you give an example of this,


Here are a couple...
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By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans.
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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html

This occured at the Southern Illinois University

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On April 11, six of Bean's colleagues published a letter in the college paper, the Daily Egyptian, denouncing him for handing out ''racist propaganda" in his American history course. The offending document, which Bean had distributed as optional reading for a class that dealt with the civil rights movement and racial tensions in that era, was an article from the conservative publication FrontPageMagazine.com about ''the Zebra Killings" -- a series of racially motivated murders of whites in the San Francisco Bay area in 1972-74 by several black extremists linked to the Nation of Islam. The article, by one James Lubinskas, argued that black-on-white hate crimes deserve more recognition.
Source: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/05/02/a_left_wing_witch_hunt_on_campus/

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 9:02:41 AM   
Sensualips


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Status: offline 		In my opinion providing healthier options in school is at least one example where it makes some sense for the children they are trying to "protect." I object to using the wee ones as an umbrella for a greater agenda. As a parent, I object to organizations and groups using my children as a scare tactic.

I am not a smoker and dislike second hand smoke. But again, I am indignant over some of that regulation as well. In the Kansas City area there are similar efforts to further regulate "adult entertainment clubs" and I do not support those either.

I don't consider any of these things to be exclusively Republican vs. Democrat issues. (And I have known some kinky Republicans in my day. Mmmm hmmm.)

And you are right, there is always legislation and outrageous case examples and a sky-is-falling knee jerk reaction. No, it is not the end of the world. Yes, maybe it will work itself out to some reasonable middle ground. Maybe.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 10:02:53 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		That would be ONE example, Merc, not "a couple"--and anyway I don't see how sending a letter to the college newspaper constitutes "strangling dissent." Was the professor disciplined? Released? No.

Oh, and you neglected to quote the most important sentence in the whole article:

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A number of SIUC professors who do not share Bean's politics have rallied to his defense.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 10:06:56 AM   
MsIncognito


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Status: offline 		Why is it that other BDSM sites can put up graphic pics but not CollarMe? Surely the law is applied evenly and fairly, no?

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 10:27:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Why is it that other BDSM sites can put up graphic pics but not CollarMe? Surely the law is applied evenly and fairly, no?


Exactly what I was wondering.....

TexasMaam

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 10:35:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Why is it that other BDSM sites can put up graphic pics but not CollarMe? Surely the law is applied evenly and fairly, no?


i would assume that collarme has chosen to do so...not that they were forced to do so....additionally, many other bdsm sites are pay sites, whereas collarme is not...it could be that the others feel one realizes when they subscribe to a paysite that graphic photos can be part of what's expected.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 11:36:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: happypervert

quote:

I guess it is a sign of the times, but I find it ironic that a site called Collarme cannot allow pictures of bondage in the profiles.

It isn't a sign of the times at all -- it is a sign of a presidential administration that has a moral agenda to cram down our throats. I recall that you and merc were the most ardent Bush supporters around here leading up to the last election, and I find it ironic you call it "a sign of the times" instead of accepting partial responsibility for the actions of the guy that you and others voted for.


Next thing you know, they are going to be blaming Canada for this ;-)

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 1:42:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Why is it that other BDSM sites can put up graphic pics but not CollarMe? Surely the law is applied evenly and fairly, no?


Probably the same reason that Suicide Girls pulled all their bondage photos, Midori shut down her site, insex is for sale and several others have closed. The Justice Department has succeeded in creating a chilling effect amongst the adult community where many websites are censoring their own material out of fear of being prosecuted and perhaps made an example of. The cost involved is great, not only financially but prison time, loss of your hardware (which might be your only means of financial support) and many sleepless nights not knowing what will happen to you in the future for many years to come. Even if you are not convicted, it doesn't matter because it will take years for your case to be litigated. My guess is some of the pay sites are probably sweating right now trying to figure out what they are going to do.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 3:54:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: happypervert



Next thing you know, they are going to be blaming Canada for this ;-)

- LA


well that's always a good idea


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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 7:06:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sting516
i would assume that collarme has chosen to do so...not that they were forced to do so....additionally, many other bdsm sites are pay sites, whereas collarme is not...it could be that the others feel one realizes when they subscribe to a paysite that graphic photos can be part of what's expected.


The site I'm thinking of, which I'm sure most here know of, isn't strictly a pay site. I don't pay for a membership there and I have several graphic pictures up in my profile there that I *know* would be rejected here. Maybe collarme is trying to maintain the 'clean cut' view of BDSM so the 'nillas won't take them down

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 7:08:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistress
Probably the same reason that Suicide Girls pulled all their bondage photos, Midori shut down her site, insex is for sale and several others have closed. The Justice Department has succeeded in creating a chilling effect amongst the adult community where many websites are censoring their own material out of fear of being prosecuted and perhaps made an example of. The cost involved is great, not only financially but prison time, loss of your hardware (which might be your only means of financial support) and many sleepless nights not knowing what will happen to you in the future for many years to come. Even if you are not convicted, it doesn't matter because it will take years for your case to be litigated. My guess is some of the pay sites are probably sweating right now trying to figure out what they are going to do.

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RE: Ironic - 10/22/2005 7:32:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

Maybe collarme is trying to maintain the 'clean cut' view of BDSM so the 'nillas won't take them down


If you see that as some form of unacceptable behavior, I'd recommend you punish them by withdrawing your person.

As someone who ran a BDSM group and was constantly told "you should be doing this" by people who weren't risking their personal safety and finances, I can understand why CollarMe would want to minimize their risk.

Don't forget they could completely minimize it by closing the board. They certainly aren't depending on it for a living and I'm sure it's a constant expense.

One of the sad things about the scene is that everyone has expectations but not many are willing to step up to the plate. I have a lot of respect for the people who keep CollarMe operating and can understand why, given the present climate, they want to cut down on the obvious risk factors


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