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QuietlySeeking -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 8:21:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Not trying to hijack, but what's pretzel logic? (It sounds marvellous, by the way.) Tasty too....crunchy, chewy, and with just enough salt?

LotusSong -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 9:36:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator By comparison they know McCain is a Naval Aviator and while they may not like him - they know that he is a stone cold killer who will gladly slaughter them by the thousands, then come back to the ship and laugh and sing songs about the nights carnage with his buddies over breakfast. McCain carries an aura of "how big are your balls, just try me" whereas I think they would defy Hillary simply to prove they wont back down from a female.... McCain may have "balls".. but Hillary has the strap-on!

popeye1250 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 9:37:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m21.gif[/image] Hmm...interesting, so nobody noticed Obama was black until he said it? Amazing, the humanitarian color blindness of the people on CM! Had he stood up and made speeches, and never referred to himself as a person of mixed race (he never denies his mother's heritage) he would've looked like an insane person. i'm all right with people saying he needs more experience, i feel the same. i'm ok with people saying he's too far left, or they think he's full of shit. The issue here is that many people WON'T vote for him solely based on his race. That is sad. But what is sadder is that people feign surprise, and what is saddest is that some people commiserate, but pretend not to. West Virginia, California, anywhere...there will be people who proudly proclaim their "americanness" that will still judge people because of skin color, That is hypocrisy at it's highest level. Iron, Obama is too far left, Ted Wetbrain Kennedy "endorsed" him! McCain will be on him like white on rice for that! An endorsement from Ted Kennedy, that's the kiss of death! As I've said before, the Democrats pick the candidate who's furthest to the left and then act surprised when they lose. Plus, Senators have an abysmal record when it comes to winning the W.H. This is the only way a Senator can win, if everyone running is also a Senator. Governors have the best record when it comes to winning the W.H. Also, Obama said he'd, "talk to our enemies." I wonder what al qeada or Mexican drug cartels would have to say to him?

Politesub53 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:02:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissIsis Is this any more shocking than the people of color voting for Obama only because of his race? No it isnt, and if people had said they wouldnt vote for Hillary, purely because she is white, i would have called that racist as well. Now if people said i wont vote for Obama because he has played the race card, and i am not saying he has or hasnt, i would see that as a reasonable stance. The problem with politicians ( worldwide ) is they often see the masses as stupid, when infact even uneducated folk can be as sharp as a box of tacks.

slavesherry30 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:05:42 AM)
Well I am in west virginia right now.. And the reason people did not vote for him.. Was because of his wife and the so called preacher he had.. I can honestly say I would not of voted for him not because of his color but those to factors.. I just think he would not be a good president and honestly I dont think hilary will either.. I will vote for mcain just for the simple fact I dont think there is good democrats this year...

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:06:22 AM)
But apparently that's okay, especially to kittinSol, because well, they're black. quote: ORIGINAL: MissIsis Is this any more shocking than the people of color voting for Obama only because of his race?

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:09:24 AM)
Yet Kennedy, like Byrd, continues to be elected. Imagine that. When I saw a former aid to Byrd on tv saying she was running against Capito for the "change" factor, I nearly choked to death! Let's start the "change" movement by setting time limits for Senators! Then lets see how much the Dems are screaming "CHANGE!"

kittinSol -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:13:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 But apparently that's okay, especially to kittinSol, because well, they're black. quote: ORIGINAL: MissIsis Is this any more shocking than the people of color voting for Obama only because of his race? This is the second time you address me directly or indirectly whilst making little sense. I have to ask: do you have a problem [8\|] ?

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:15:41 AM)
I love the quote from Coal Miner's Daughter that says, "I may be ignorant, but I'm not stupid." I think the politicians like to imagine us as stupid, and want to keep us ignorant, so we won't question what they are doing. All those who voted against drilling in ANWR should not be re-elected. And all those who say they are protecting the environment, we should start with trade deals with China. Then we can talk about who really cares about the environment. Do you think the Sauds, the Iranians, or Chavez is concerned about wildlife before they put a drill in the ground?? Why is it only the US who has to be environmentally correct? quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: MissIsis Is this any more shocking than the people of color voting for Obama only because of his race? No it isnt, and if people had said they wouldnt vote for Hillary, purely because she is white, i would have called that racist as well. Now if people said i wont vote for Obama because he has played the race card, and i am not saying he has or hasnt, i would see that as a reasonable stance. The problem with politicians ( worldwide ) is they often see the masses as stupid, when infact even uneducated folk can be as sharp as a box of tacks.

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:17:54 AM)
I have a problem with people who say it's okay for blacks to vote for a black person simply because they are black, but it's not okay for a white person to vote against a person simply because they are black. You can't have it both ways. I believe there is such thing as reverse discrimination, and political correctness is feeding it. quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 But apparently that's okay, especially to kittinSol, because well, they're black. quote: ORIGINAL: MissIsis Is this any more shocking than the people of color voting for Obama only because of his race? This is the second time you address me directly or indirectly whilst making little sense. I have to ask: do you have a problem [8\|] ?

popeye1250 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:18:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1 Yet Kennedy, like Byrd, continues to be elected. Imagine that. When I saw a former aid to Byrd on tv saying she was running against Capito for the "change" factor, I nearly choked to death! Let's start the "change" movement by setting time limits for Senators! Then lets see how much the Dems are screaming "CHANGE!" I agree! Fourty some odd years in the senate is WAY too long!

kittinSol -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:23:55 AM)
Oh, so you do have a problem... thank you for confirming it. You are one of these people who expects black voters to show more integrity than their white counterparts: well, welcome to the real world, honey. Some people have, and will, vote for the wrong reasons, whatever their skin colour. It matters little whether you think it's okay or not.

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:24:27 AM)
I am right most of the time! Especially in my own mind!

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:28:01 AM)
I agree, so why set higher standards for whites? Are you one of those people who expect blacks to show LESS integrity than whites? When 20% of whites in WV say race was a factor it's a shame. When Obama gets 95% of the black vote in NC, it's expected. That is reverse discrimination. And unacceptable. Do you agree? quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Oh, so you do have a problem... thank you for confirming it. You are one of these people who expects black voters to show more integrity than their white counterparts: well, welcome to the real world, honey. Some people have, and will, vote for the wrong reasons, whatever their skin colour. It matters little whether you think it's okay or not.

kittinSol -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:30:18 AM)
No, I don't agree. It's not discrimination: it's democracy. Perhaps you'd want to take away people's liberty to make a choice of their own?

rulemylife -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:30:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong And how many black voters vote for Obama just because he is black? Scandalous! How come they have the right to vote in the first place [8\|] ? And that's how they thank you! Regardless of the sarcastic response, it's a legitimate question. He has received 90+% of black votes throughout the country.

popeye1250 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:31:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Oh, so you do have a problem... thank you for confirming it. You are one of these people who expects black voters to show more integrity than their white counterparts: well, welcome to the real world, honey. Some people have, and will, vote for the wrong reasons, whatever their skin colour. It matters little whether you think it's okay or not. LOL, KittinSol, you just went "full circle."

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:32:23 AM)
No, I don't. But I expect the same from whites and blacks alike. Somehow others don't. quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol No, I don't agree. It's not discrimination: it's democracy. Perhaps you'd want to take away people's liberty to make a choice of their own?

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:34:24 AM)
Perhaps the kittin is chasing her own tail. quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Oh, so you do have a problem... thank you for confirming it. You are one of these people who expects black voters to show more integrity than their white counterparts: well, welcome to the real world, honey. Some people have, and will, vote for the wrong reasons, whatever their skin colour. It matters little whether you think it's okay or not. LOL, KittinSol, you just went "full circle."

MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/14/2008 10:35:30 AM)
Don't talk about the pink elephant in the room. It's just rude. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong And how many black voters vote for Obama just because he is black? Scandalous! How come they have the right to vote in the first place [8\|] ? And that's how they thank you! Regardless of the sarcastic response, it's a legitimate question. He has received 90+% of black votes throughout the country.

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