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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 8:52:41 AM   
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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 9:43:29 AM   
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I'm not sure about you guys, but we here in the south frequently call others 'sweetie', 'dear', or the always popular 'hon'... it's second nature, and I've been snapped at before for doing it to someone who was mailing me back and forth, so I understand how some people take themselves a wee bit too seriously and get up in arms about being called something fairly inocuous.

Have we, as a country, become so uptight and self-important that a casual term of address, albeit an affectionate one, can be considered so horrific?

I understand he used it as an interjection to hold of answering a question, but really... this is in no way a blow to women's right any more so than Clinton's sexcapades in-office, or Bush and his repeated 'misunderestimations' of the English language.

That's my opinion, your mileage may vary, and I could be wrong.


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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 9:57:29 AM   
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I guess the same type of people that would be offended if they asked Obama to  please go to the back of the bus\..which is pretty much what he did to the woman when he addressed her in such a way as to diminish her position as a reporter  I guess "little lady" would have been more acceptable?
 
To me.. condescending "endearments" like that are equal to a female type of  "n" word.  That "Let's keep them in their place" attitude.  Nope, that sound bite struck me hard and I'm not an overly sensitive person.  I wanted to slap his face.  And not to worry.. you can HAVE Louisiana.
 
I see this has been moved to Random Stupidity..the mod must be an Obama supporter?


Oh, why so snippy, little lady?  Upset that no one has called you sweetie on here?  No worries, though.  You can come to Louisiana and someone is bound to call you sweetie.  We'll welcome just about anyone in Louisiana...we're friendly like that down here, sweetie.   The amazing culture, fantastic music, and the tastiest cuisine on the planet will be enough to make you forget that snarky attitude about Louisiana.

Here's a little food for thought, though.  Would there be any hoopla if Obama told a young MALE reporter who asked the exact same question, "Hold on, sonny", or "One moment, champ"?  I highly doubt it. 

I guess you're a Hillary supporter.  If it was a Hillary post, it would have surely ended up in the humor section because the idea of her as president is certainly a joke...just like her campaign.

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 10:43:22 AM   
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I guess the same type of people that would be offended if they asked Obama to  please go to the back of the bus\..which is pretty much what he did to the woman when he addressed her in such a way as to diminish her position as a reporter  I guess "little lady" would have been more acceptable?
 
To me.. condescending "endearments" like that are equal to a female type of  "n" word.  That "Let's keep them in their place" attitude.  Nope, that sound bite struck me hard and I'm not an overly sensitive person.  I wanted to slap his face.  And not to worry.. you can HAVE Louisiana.
 
I see this has been moved to Random Stupidity..the mod must be an Obama supporter?


Oh, why so snippy, little lady?  Upset that no one has called you sweetie on here?  No worries, though.  You can come to Louisiana and someone is bound to call you sweetie.  We'll welcome just about anyone in Louisiana...we're friendly like that down here, sweetie.   The amazing culture, fantastic music, and the tastiest cuisine on the planet will be enough to make you forget that snarky attitude about Louisiana.

Here's a little food for thought, though.  Would there be any hoopla if Obama told a young MALE reporter who asked the exact same question, "Hold on, sonny", or "One moment, champ"?  I highly doubt it. 

I guess you're a Hillary supporter.  If it was a Hillary post, it would have surely ended up in the humor section because the idea of her as president is certainly a joke...just like her campaign.


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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 10:55:02 AM   
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Oh, Lotus...if I actually cared what you thought, I might actually be hurt by your comments.  I've been insulted by better people than you in my lifetime and I still don't give a flip what people like you think.

Have a nice day.    Now, be gone.  You are dismissed.

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:11:43 AM   
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So, if a woman had used a nickname for another woman would it be "wrong"?
or if the reporter had been male, and had been called "sport"?
just trying to find where the line is (so I can jump-rope)




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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:26:01 AM   
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Pretty messed up if you ask me.  All over being called sweetie?  And to say the Sweetie word is like using the N well is a little insane imo...

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:28:38 AM   
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It is crazy, but when you think about it there's a real political agenda behind this fake indignation. It's shamelessly manufactured by a gutter press that has been intent on destroying Obama's reputation over anything they can get their hands on... whilst letting Fries McCain get away with a hell of a lot of crap.

Makes me sick too  .

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:34:01 AM   
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thats because people are scared that if they say anything about Mccain he'll eat thier children

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:35:24 AM   
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thats because people are scared that if they say anything about Mccain he'll eat thier children





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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 11:38:46 AM   
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Pretty messed up if you ask me.  All over being called sweetie?  And to say the Sweetie word is like using the N well is a little insane imo...


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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:01:17 PM   
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It is crazy, but when you think about it there's a real political agenda behind this fake indignation. It's shamelessly manufactured by a gutter press that has been intent on destroying Obama's reputation over anything they can get their hands on... whilst letting Fries McCain get away with a hell of a lot of crap.

Makes me sick too  .


I don't feel it's "fake" indignation.  It was a thoughtless utterance.  I was just shocked that it didn't occur to him to guard some of his "endearments".  He's in the public eye.  He has to watch his words now more than ever.  When he also refers to male reporters doing their job as "sweetie".. then I'll understand him more... be it for better or worse. 

And for the record..I'm an Independent.

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:36:44 PM   
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Just sayin...

Unless he's ready to spank my ass, pull my hair and whisper nasty things in my ear, he better not even think about calling me sweetie.

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:45:22 PM   
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Just sayin...

Unless he's ready to spank my ass, pull my hair and whisper nasty things in my ear, he better not even think about calling me sweetie.


if he does all that i prefer to be called slut.


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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:47:21 PM   
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So... "thats right you dirty bad little sweetie" doesnt do it for ya? :P

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:48:29 PM   
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So... "thats right you dirty bad little sweetie" doesnt do it for ya? :P


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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:48:32 PM   
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Ah, come on. The guy's had about 4 minutes of sleep in the last 8 months. Same for all of them. I think it's much less problematic than confusing the shiites and sunnis--4 times in 3 weeks-- from the candidate with the most expertise on foreign policy (McCain)...and the most sleep for that matter.

If that's the worst of the Obama gaffes, then I'd say he's gonna be okay.

Here's what I've been wondering about...what if it turns out that McCain has Alzheimer's or is otherwise mentally impaired. He is 71! What would happen?

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:49:43 PM   
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Remember the Regan years?

Neither did he.

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:53:46 PM   
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I'm not sure about you guys, but we here in the south frequently call others 'sweetie', 'dear', or the always popular 'hon'... it's second nature, and I've been snapped at before for doing it to someone who was mailing me back and forth, so I understand how some people take themselves a wee bit too seriously and get up in arms about being called something fairly inocuous.

Have we, as a country, become so uptight and self-important that a casual term of address, albeit an affectionate one, can be considered so horrific?

I understand he used it as an interjection to hold of answering a question, but really... this is in no way a blow to women's right any more so than Clinton's sexcapades in-office, or Bush and his repeated 'misunderestimations' of the English language.

That's my opinion, your mileage may vary, and I could be wrong.



I'm with you on this one.  I love terms of affection - love, sweety, darling, honey - you name it.  I'd much rather people refer to each other affectionately than insultingly!  Some people use and interpret these terms of endearment as being condescending.  There have been times when I used to, but when I became comfortable and confident with myself, even when I recognize something as condescending, it doesn't bug me.  It speaks more toward the person doing the condescending than anything else, and why get upset about that?

My friends & I are always referring to each other as mushy words.  Makes me feel warm inside. :)

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RE: SWEETIE????!!!!???? - 5/16/2008 12:58:58 PM   
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I'm not sure about you guys, but we here in the south frequently call others 'sweetie', 'dear', or the always popular 'hon'... it's second nature, and I've been snapped at before for doing it to someone who was mailing me back and forth, so I understand how some people take themselves a wee bit too seriously and get up in arms about being called something fairly inocuous.

Have we, as a country, become so uptight and self-important that a casual term of address, albeit an affectionate one, can be considered so horrific?

I understand he used it as an interjection to hold of answering a question, but really... this is in no way a blow to women's right any more so than Clinton's sexcapades in-office, or Bush and his repeated 'misunderestimations' of the English language.

That's my opinion, your mileage may vary, and I could be wrong.



I'm with you on this one.  I love terms of affection - love, sweety, darling, honey - you name it.  I'd much rather people refer to each other affectionately than insultingly!  Some people use and interpret these terms of endearment as being condescending.  There have been times when I used to, but when I became comfortable and confident with myself, even when I recognize something as condescending, it doesn't bug me.  It speaks more toward the person doing the condescending than anything else, and why get upset about that?

My friends & I are always referring to each other as mushy words.  Makes me feel warm inside. :)


With friends I don't mind terms of endearance, but from a stranger, that just rubs me wrong.

Would you want a stranger... say the creepy looking guy in the biology section of the library... call you sweetie.   "Hang on sweetie, I'll be right with you"   Sorry, that just screams all kinds of levels of .

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