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Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 2:42:15 PM   
FTopinMichigan


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Status: offline 		I have searched the archives, and came up somewhat empty on the issue of "forced bi."

I've noticed, more and more, that quite a few male submissives (I don't check out the female profiles, but I'm guessing they may be into this too), have checked the "interest" of forced bisexuality, yet their sexual orientation is listed as "straight." I'm a bit confused by this.

So...are straight people, actually straight if they have sex with the same sex, and being "forced" makes them remain straight?

Seriously though...isn't someone seeking bisexual experience...bisexual????

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 3:03:51 PM   
windchymes


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Status: offline 		It might be a homophobic thing, lol. They really ARE secretly bi, or at least curious, but afraid to admit it. That way, if they're "forced", they don't have to take responsibility for it, or face the possibility that they're....gasp....gay???

Kinda like women who have a "rape fantasy"....if they're "forced" to do those dark nasty things they secretly want to do, it isn't their fault!

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 3:29:48 PM   
Taik


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Status: offline 		Or maybe they have a passing interest in the topic and would be curious to explore it with their partner present. Perhaps they put the strait in their profile to limit the people who contact them, becuase they wish for a primarly hetro relationship with an occasional dabbling in bi. Just a thought.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 3:47:26 PM   
theRose4U


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I've noticed, more and more, that quite a few male submissives (I don't check out the female profiles, but I'm guessing they may be into this too), have checked the "interest" of forced bisexuality, yet their sexual orientation is listed as "straight." I'm a bit confused by this.


You're not the only one confused by this. I actually asked one that said forced bi & strap ons were a MAJOR interest but he's straight. Have asked him a couple times to clarify & for me at least 1 +1 keeps = GAY curious.
The explaination that I got was this. Only had experience with women. But would do anything to please a Domme, especially being "used" with a strap on or forced oral to include shaved women & shaved men or strap on. Not sure how this would process for someone else but I keep getting stuck.

Watching with interest.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 4:08:43 PM   
MissDiandSirHugh


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Status: offline 		To many it does not mean haveing sex with some one of there own sex in being forced to be bi it can also just mean that they wish to experiance being just touched by a person of their own sex and not on any private parts just to be forced to have to have this happen and return the same which at no time would they consider doing it outside of their being forced and a way of maybe exploreing a bi-curious thought they have had at one time or another.
It can also be a way of telling others that although they are streight there are limits they and every one has but this is not one of them and if made to either dress in the cloting of the opposite sex they would do so maybe with much displeasure or hesitation but would finally do so and no one has crossed the limits.
If the person is into and enjoys humiliation then being forced to wear things well and truly aginst their nature is one very big humiliating experiance indeed also just some saying that they would take this form of punishment if made to.
To a few it can be the only way that they could have a chance to discover a cross dressing fantasie that without being with some one Dominant at no time would they have the will to try even just a small item of clothing from the opposite sex so this is their way of geting help in that train of thought.
These are only our ideas on it and we can tell you that even from a true life experiance with a Sub that after he was made to wear a pair of womans panties as a pnishment he now loves the feel so much he wears them at all times so now we have to be more imaginative for his punishments.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 5:28:13 PM   
MstrssPassion


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Status: offline 		I refuse to use the terms of forced 'anything'.

I am not going to hold a gun to someones head to make them do anything & I am surely not going to hog tie some unsuspecting man & force feed him a cock & have to deal with freeing eventually. I could either face bodily harm or law enforcement.

My thoughts are like what many have said already. I believe those that act out the same sex act & claim it to be forced or at least directed by another person are just not willing to accept the responsibility of the act. I would assume they feel they can walk away & place any blame of what took place on another.



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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 5:33:00 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		Bisexual means that you are oriented to be attracted to both sexes for intimate personal relationships.

A heterosexual can be ordered to have sex with someone they are not attracted to- it doesn't change their inner orientation, it means they are following orders.

Whether a person is ordered to have sex with someone that is their own orientation or not, it is "forced." Many people get turned on by being "forced" to do it with someone who would NEVER be attracted.

For some it may be a secret desire, for some it might be a taboo, for some it might just be the extreme of it.

But following orders to perform sex in no way indicates inner orientation.

For example, perhaps I had a master who ordered me to never have sex with males, only ever females. That would be a case of "forced homosexuality" for me, and yet I would still be bisexual in orientation.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 6:21:57 PM   
KatyLied


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A lot of the definition has to do with how that person defines him or herself. And at what point does bi-curious become bi-sexual? Does one encounter with the same sex make you bisexual? At what point does experimentation become orientation? This is why I sometimes despise labels.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 6:53:04 PM   
RiotGirl


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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 6:54:41 PM   
RiotGirl


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Status: offline 		oh and this isnt a very good thread on forced bi. Though i would be curious as to those who've been forced, rather pushed, rather ordered to do something bi.

Heck i was recently thrown into an orgy and that was interesting enough. One of my most favorite line from the WHOLE night was "oooooooo so THATS what it feels like in there!"

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 7:16:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

oh and this isnt a very good thread on forced bi. Though i would be curious as to those who've been forced, rather pushed, rather ordered to do something bi.

Heck i was recently thrown into an orgy and that was interesting enough. One of my most favorite line from the WHOLE night was "oooooooo so THATS what it feels like in there!"


As one of those who listed forced bi as an interest, i'd like to throw my two cents in.

i have done forced bi on one occasion...sucking the cock of a male for a Domme's enjoyment...did i enjoy it, not really, but i did enjoy the fact that i pleased Her by doing so...this took place about 8 or 9 years ago, and if in the same situation, i'd do it again, since it brought Her pleasure...i do not seek out cocks to suck or fuck, but i do admit thinking about it in the same situation...if you think that makes me bi, then so be it...i don't think of myself that way...maybe bi willing if not bisexual.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 7:49:30 PM   
RiotGirl


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Status: offline 		Good stuff Sting, for throwing in!

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 8:23:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: windchymes

It might be a homophobic thing, lol. They really ARE secretly bi, or at least curious, but afraid to admit it. That way, if they're "forced", they don't have to take responsibility for it, or face the possibility that they're....gasp....gay???

Kinda like women who have a "rape fantasy"....if they're "forced" to do those dark nasty things they secretly want to do, it isn't their fault!

windchymes




*sigh* Again more people talking beofre they think.

What a person does sexually does NOT dicate their sexual orientation.
Take me for example. I do enjoy being lent out to males, but I do not find men sexually attractive in the slightest.
Does that make me bi? no.

Does that make me open minded and just a sexual being? yes.

So the next time you decide to speak like you know what you're talking about, and lump us all in a group and just stereotype us, spare us.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 9:01:41 PM   
UtopianRanger


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I have searched the archives, and came up somewhat empty on the issue of "forced bi."


There was a fairly decent thread about this a few months back.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_127846/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm


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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 9:06:52 PM   
sting516


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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

Good stuff Sting, for throwing in!


thanks for the kind words!

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 9:19:53 PM   
gypsyeyez


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Status: offline 		Yep i would have to agree with windchymes here ,.... homophobia is a dreaded disease of the ignorant though in my eyes. And I personally thing any one with thoughts of being attrated to the same sex enough to excuse me have sex with them is bi or at least bi curious for there is something about that which turns them on.

*steps off soap box*

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 9:37:08 PM   
JustaTop


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Status: offline 		It's a fantasy concept-if the "devil made you do it"-you are held blameless,..........

It's about on a par with the "plausable deniability" bs the government is so fond of these days.

"We didn't REALLY do it,it just SEEMS that way!"

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/21/2005 11:46:56 PM   
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have checked the "interest" of forced bisexuality, yet their sexual orientation is listed as "straight." I'm a bit confused by this.
I think some men are frequently confused as well.
It's one thing for a sub to neither list bisexual desires as interest, nor as a hard limit, because that would leave the option of forcing him to perform bisexual acts up to me/my whims.
Having met one or two men who are confused about their sexuality and only get excited when we're watching gay porno, I try to stear clear of most people with forced bi in their profiles, as opposed to just having strap ons.
With me they usually come begging to perform bi as well as touch the ultimate forbidden fruit all in one, very disturbing. M

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/22/2005 12:19:31 AM   
brightspot


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Status: offline 		A Forced Bi experience is a hard limit for me.
My Domina knows it and being a lesbian herself
would never even suggest it, thank goodness.
(I get along great with most men, I just am not interested in fucking them).

Now...Forced sex with another woman is a different
thing. Although monogamous in nature, I would consider
this, as far as "Play" goes.

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RE: Forced Bi - 10/22/2005 6:03:27 AM   
realsumissive


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Status: offline 		I agree with you 100 per cent about people talking before they think. You apparently are at the top of the list. I agree that you are not bi curious. You are definitely bi-sexual in every form. You are the Webster's definition of a bi-sexual male. maybe it would be best if you took some time and thought out what your true sexuality is.

What a person does sexually absoloutely DOES dictate their sexual orientation. If a man is put in a position where he has no choice but to do something against his sexual nature, it doesn't make him a practitioner of that form of sexual identification. However if, as you say, you enjoy being lent out to other males for sexual purposes, then you are bi-sexual. Not an argueable point.

It sounds as if you wish to let the world know that you will accept a penis, but you are so homophobic that you want to justify it and explain it away as something you do for your "owner". And, before you get on with the "so you're a qualified professional" arguement, yes I am.

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