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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 3:36:52 AM   
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Just curious, if you can't use more than 3 gigs on a 32 bit system, & the memory is sold in 1 Gig pairs, the computer has only 2 slots, is there a way to maximize the amount of memory you purchase for it?  Is it worth it to buy 2, 2 Gig memory sticks for a total of 4 gigs so you can get the 3 gigs?  Every bit of information I have read on my system says to stick with matching memory pairs.  


it adresses up to approx 3.4 gig. ( I think dell sells most with 3 gig)
2 times 2 gig wil work, but you just don't see the 4 gig in windows xp 32bits

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 3:42:06 AM   
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I am on a new Vaio (Sony) running Vista and I don't find its performance appreciably better than my old Dell that had XP, despite the fact that this is much faster dual processor system.  I have never had issues with the quality of an IBM (now Linovo), Dell, HP/Compaq or Sony - they are all basically made with good QC processes.  (Acer used to be unbeatable in quality once upon a time.)  The problems I have are clearly with Vista itself.  I have worked in XP, NT, ME, 98, 3.5 and  NEVER had so many OS related poblems.  My plan now is to reformat and install XP (and not touch Vista again) when I have the time to do it.  There is only one cool thing I like about Vista - the gadget pane - and so many features I do not like, that it just isn't worth it.  Its a HUGE system hog, and it security features mean nothing to someone who has been using Firefox with AdBlock and Trend Micro's robust Internet security suite for several years.  It's hip to hate Microsoft, but I have always preferred MSOffice products, and have generally been happy with Windows sans IE - but they shit the bed on this one.  (Where's that old Microsoft BOB CD I have around here somewhere?)



did you update to SP1 for Vista?
else..down grade to XP

btw Firefox is overhyped to (but still very good ofcourse).... add blocking is nice..but for better security you better use;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722

Trend is pretty good. I prefer myself Nod32, kasperksy or Avira. Besides that I use Superantispyware.
( I try a lott of things...nothing is 100%)

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 3:47:00 AM   
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Thanks Justme.  I do have the Vista.  I am getting used to it.  It had a memory malfunction when I first got it & had to be sent back, but is working fine now, without any problems.  I love the graphics.  I am not a gamer, so I don't need a super duper bells & whistles computer. This was an inexpensive system much better than what I had.   I just want as much extra memory as I can get.  I am a little intimidated about changing the memory in here though, since it originally had a memory problem from the factory installation.  I have rebuilt quite a few systems without any problem, so I think it will be worth it to just add it myself. 

By the way, to the op, I have Open Office & love it.  I can save my documents as a Microsoft word file, so I can use open them up that way & use them at work, which doesn't have Open Office.  They are a little out of it when it comes to great programs that are inexpensive.  Best of all, Open Office is completely free. 

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 7:33:06 AM   
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Thanks for the advice on this stuff. 

Someone mentioned the iMac. My wife just bought one and while it cost twice what my acer did, it is looking to be well worth it.  Her old Mac laptop cost about 5 times what this comp did but it still keeps up fairly well after 4 years.  I've never had a pc that kept up that well without significant changes after so long.  Care to shed any light on that guys?  It has been making me really curious lately.

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:21:12 AM   
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because its related, and made me smile
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070331


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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:23:01 AM   
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because its related, and made me smile
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070331



so  BDSM people should get Vista   lol
XP is for the vanilla 

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:25:43 AM   
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Thanks for the advice on this stuff. 

Someone mentioned the iMac. My wife just bought one and while it cost twice what my acer did, it is looking to be well worth it.  Her old Mac laptop cost about 5 times what this comp did but it still keeps up fairly well after 4 years.  I've never had a pc that kept up that well without significant changes after so long.  Care to shed any light on that guys?  It has been making me really curious lately.


look at the amount of hardware/software available for windows based pc's and then for MAC
The more variety the more possible problems. That is a little the problem with windows.

There is so many stuff to install for windows..and people do that...it ruins the OS.
But if MAC gets more popular. You will see the same problems comming.

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:28:31 AM   
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Thanks Justme.  I do have the Vista.  I am getting used to it.  It had a memory malfunction when I first got it & had to be sent back, but is working fine now, without any problems.  I love the graphics.  I am not a gamer, so I don't need a super duper bells & whistles computer. This was an inexpensive system much better than what I had.   I just want as much extra memory as I can get.  I am a little intimidated about changing the memory in here though, since it originally had a memory problem from the factory installation.  I have rebuilt quite a few systems without any problem, so I think it will be worth it to just add it myself. 

By the way, to the op, I have Open Office & love it.  I can save my documents as a Microsoft word file, so I can use open them up that way & use them at work, which doesn't have Open Office.  They are a little out of it when it comes to great programs that are inexpensive.  Best of all, Open Office is completely free. 



Adding memory will always give a nice smoother feeling to heavy appz. No more swapping to harddisks and so on.
Look at the website of your motherboard manufactorer. They have lists with advised memeory.


you also can use the Google online office suite.
Then you have always access to all (when you have internet access of course)

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:29:53 AM   
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Thanks for the advice on this stuff. 

Someone mentioned the iMac. My wife just bought one and while it cost twice what my acer did, it is looking to be well worth it.  Her old Mac laptop cost about 5 times what this comp did but it still keeps up fairly well after 4 years.  I've never had a pc that kept up that well without significant changes after so long.  Care to shed any light on that guys?  It has been making me really curious lately.


look at the amount of hardware/software available for windows based pc's and then for MAC
The more variety the more possible problems. That is a little the problem with windows.

There is so many stuff to install for windows..and people do that...it ruins the OS.
But if MAC gets more popular. You will see the same problems comming.


I do disagree with you here, Apple owns all of the rights to everything, so no matter how popular it gets I cant see a large influx of new things for it


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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:33:44 AM   
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I do disagree with you here, Apple owns all of the rights to everything, so no matter how popular it gets I cant see a large influx of new things for it



there will be more software....more problems
more users.....more virusses
more users..more demands of hardware....more different set-ups...more risk of problems

besides that..they don't use their own made hardware anymore (no power processer but intel and amd cpu's)...it is not all with in their control.
things like bootcamp...already lead to more problems

Because of the growth they already had more security issues then vista lately.

besides that..rights don't say much. More people can cause more problems. People try things...look at windows..lol
People can break everything.
But till now..if you are a computer noob and focus on just a few things go for MAc.
IF you are in Europe..at least where I live and the surrounding countries..go for pc.

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:40:26 AM   
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   I've got an HP dv9650us laptop. It came with Vista. My old desktop has XP. It took a little getting used to, but I'm fine with Vista. Mind you...I use My computer for only the basics. My only complaint is that Vista seems to take forever to boot up. 

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 8:51:05 AM   
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  I've got an HP dv9650us laptop. It came with Vista. My old desktop has XP. It took a little getting used to, but I'm fine with Vista. Mind you...I use My computer for only the basics. My only complaint is that Vista seems to take forever to boot up. 


it does?
mm should be faster
Did you install lot of things? (that run at start up)

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 9:21:16 AM   
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...i'm running vista home basic on a new Dell machine with 2 gigs memory and an AMD dual core. i can honestly report no major problems at all, other than having to replace my old much loved printer. It is memory intensive, but then so was XP considered such when it came out. The machine has one of those nvidia OEM graphics cards (8300) and runs ET:QW (alongside teamspeak) and Oblivion perfectly well.
Seems to me that too many people are changeophobes.

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 9:29:35 AM   
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basically, yes
my gaming laptop, and one of my desktops have Vista (Ultimate onn the laptop, home premium/Ubuntu on the desktop) and the only problem Ive had so far turned out to be a bad router


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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 9:32:44 AM   
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...heh, well if you ever play ET:QW, let me know where so i can come and toss a (friendly) rocket at you some time.....

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 10:08:24 AM   
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I love Vista, I got a Big Hoss Dell XPS system, and the only thing I can say bad about it is that It assumes that your an idiot and that you need handholding.

Which I honestly Understand, MS (Mircosoft) wants to get their product into as many hands as they can, so they figure if they make their product as user friendly as they can. that more people will want to use it.

My problem is I am a Professiona PC tech and don't need hand holding!

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 10:52:31 AM   
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you can get rid of the hand-holding, I did :)

and I do the mmorpgs and rts's more than anything, sorry philosophy


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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 11:22:13 AM   
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I have been running Vista almost since it's release. On my desktop I have Ultimate running under 32 bit and not one days problem since the install. I had been running Xp on an AMD Athalon 64 x2 (939 chip) on a Gigabyte board, and I did have to swap out to an Asus 939 Board since Gigabyte wasn't upgrading the drivers for the board to Vista compats, but other than that..not even a crash or blue screen. It even knows where all it's .dlls are something Xp loved to lose track of to make you reinstall it.

My new laptop is a Gateway P-6860 FX and running vista Home Premium. Both of my machines have 4 gigs on board and perform beautifully. I do a lot of work in Adobe, Flash, Poser and other graphic intensive memory hogs and don't run into a problem.

If you have questions I can help.

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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 12:38:03 PM   
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good thing aboput vista (for graphic programs also) is that it spreads the load over multi core cpu's better.
I love it with my Intel core2quad , 4 gig  and a nvidia 8800gt (yes I spoiled myself). I can open so many things at the same time.
Run a game and have bittorrent running..while burning dvd's and such. (ok ok no one does that normally I admit)

Strange thing is. I am playing a lott of BF2 online and works of course fine on XP. Vista 32 had problems with it..and Vista 64 (uses 32bit emulation) works better then both.
Right now I am running Xp with sp3 again, because I was curious about its speed.

yeah it is great Vista can stop and restart parts of it OS. No need to restart the whole pc.


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RE: Vista PC Operating System - 5/22/2008 1:01:05 PM   
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Another quick question.  When I run dvds, my video driver will sometimes just quit responding and it shuts down the movie.  Do I need to upgrade media player, just the video driver or what?  It isn't a major problem but it can get annoying.  I am finding all sorts of little problems that I blame on having a gimped version of vista.  Most have been fixed except my gaming problem and my dvd problem. 

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