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FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 1:40:40 PM)
My point was never how superior the Russian's are to the US but why anyone would think them not proud of the things they accomplished? They don't have an inferiority complex they just don't like being misrepresented. Nor do the British for your information so can the next super villain be some other nationality please?

Smith117 -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 1:48:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle My point was never how superior the Russian's are to the US but why anyone would think them not proud of the things they accomplished? They don't have an inferiority complex they just don't like being misrepresented. Nor do the British for your information so can the next super villain be some other nationality please? Sorry, but in the majority of movies I used to own, there wasn't a single country who held the 'bad guy' nationality more than any other. Let's not forget, the Bond films were about a BRITISH agent. The enemies he fought we made up by a british author, not American. And as far as an inferiority complex. When a country has fallen as far as the Russians' country....it's understandable they'd be a lil sensitive about it. They can probably remember what it was like to be a super power. And now they're not. That must suck.

orfunboi -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 1:57:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Tell me about it. If a person constantly needs to put down others, what does it say to you about their sense of self-worth? And which nation puts down other nations the most [8D]? Not sure about nations, but if we go by this thread, I think you would be the winner.

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:00:46 PM)
You'll find the majority of Russian's wouldn't change what happened in 1990, it made a lot of Russian's super rich and a lot of them poor. The rich Russians are the ones you hear complaining about the Indiana Jones film. To say these people have an inferiority complex is stretching belief just a little considering they have the financial clout to buy out a lot of US companies whole. So far they have limited their activities to British Football teams but I hope you are going to start learning the Cyrillic alphabet Mr Smith. I saw this American film recently called ‘Next’ where the villain was French and it had Nicolas cage in. In this film the French wanted to plant a nuclear bomb in the US for some strange reason. Why the French; because they didn't agree with the Iraq war? Also do you remember the film ‘Gone in 60 seconds’ had a criminal Brit in because all criminals in the US are British. It was highly amusing.

Irishknight -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:13:56 PM)
Your last twoconclusions about the French and British villains in the other films was such a stretch that you must have pulled a muscle. Guess what? There are British criminals hence the reason that they have a police force. Not EVERYTHING that the rest of the people in this world do is politically motivated. Sometimes, movies are just made to ENTERTAIN. People who have to look for some dark political bullshit under every rock need their heads checked and should be medicated.

Level -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:16:59 PM)
Hollywood has trotted out the next potential foreign foes for its upcoming blockbusters: 1- Le Beaver, from Canada, played by Celine Dion. 2- Kangarooney, an Austrailian that possesses the body of 60 Mintutes correspondent Andy Rooney. 3- The Siesta Squad, a team of Mexican super-villains.

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:17:32 PM)
[:D] There are British criminals in Britain and American criminals in America. Just answer me why the French wanted to plant a nuclear bomb in Mr Cages film? Them damn mercenaries, they’ll work for anyone.

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:21:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Hollywood has trotted out the next potential foreign foes for its upcoming blockbusters: 1- Le Beaver, from Canada, played by Celine Dion. 2- Kangarooney, an Austrailian that possesses the body of 60 Mintutes correspondent Andy Rooney. 3- The Siesta Squad, a team of Mexican super-villains. I cringed when I saw the below advertised it is in such bad taste and is going to upset a lot of people. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481536/

Level -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:25:54 PM)
Oh, I don't know, the first Harold and Kumar movie was a big hit, and I don't remember an uproar.... but, of course, they weren't down in Gitmo, either. [:D]

Irishknight -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:29:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle [:D] There are British criminals in Britain and American criminals in America. Just answer me why the French wanted to plant a nuclear bomb in Mr Cages film? Them damn mercenaries, they’ll work for anyone. You would have complained if the criminals had been Spanish, Irish or Lithuanian. The fact is that the bad guys in the film were French. So what? Every country has wackos and this author portrayed his as being French. I think its a case of you wanting to make something out of nothing. You want there to be something bad so you find it.

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:29:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Oh, I don't know, the first Harold and Kumar movie was a big hit, and I don't remember an uproar.... but, of course, they weren't down in Gitmo, either. [:D] Yeah from the trailer it looks like a funny film but people will accuse it of making light of a bad situation.

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:35:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight You would have complained if the criminals had been Spanish, Irish or Lithuanian. The fact is that the bad guys in the film were French. So what? Every country has wackos and this author portrayed his as being French. I think its a case of you wanting to make something out of nothing. You want there to be something bad so you find it. It is bad it makes it look like the French collude with terrorists. I wouldn't have minded so much if the terrorists had been Iranians at least that would have looked half way realistic. Maybe they were supposed to be French Algerians but they didn't look like they were of African descent to me. You are a bit naive to not understand the political undertones being sent out. We aren't talking about petty criminals we are talking about people that want to finish off the USA and they were cast as French nationals.

Level -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:37:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle [:D] There are British criminals in Britain and American criminals in America. Just answer me why the French wanted to plant a nuclear bomb in Mr Cages film? Them damn mercenaries, they’ll work for anyone. You would have complained if the criminals had been Spanish, Irish or Lithuanian. The fact is that the bad guys in the film were French. So what? Every country has wackos and this author portrayed his as being French. I think its a case of you wanting to make something out of nothing. You want there to be something bad so you find it. I think the villains were French and over here trying to get revenge on us for the whole Freedom Fries thing.

Level -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:41:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle quote: ORIGINAL: Level Oh, I don't know, the first Harold and Kumar movie was a big hit, and I don't remember an uproar.... but, of course, they weren't down in Gitmo, either. [:D] Yeah from the trailer it looks like a funny film but people will accuse it of making light of a bad situation. Generally, the worse a situation is, the funnier humor about it can be. There are always exceptions...[:D]

Irishknight -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:43:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight You would have complained if the criminals had been Spanish, Irish or Lithuanian. The fact is that the bad guys in the film were French. So what? Every country has wackos and this author portrayed his as being French. I think its a case of you wanting to make something out of nothing. You want there to be something bad so you find it. It is bad it makes it look like the French collude with terrorists. I wouldn't have minded so much if the terrorists had been Iranians at least that would have looked half way realistic. You are a bit naive to not understand the political undertones being sent out. We arn't talking about petty criminals we are talking about people that want to finish off the USA and they were cast as French nationals. I'm sorry. My mistake. There are no bad French people. We should hang those Hollywood bastards for insinuating it. In fact, lets put all directors of films that make the french look bad to horrible painful deaths. There are radical groups in every part of the world and in every country. I don't believe that this film had the French government doing this but a bunch of radical wackos who happened to be french. Is it so hard for you to believe that there could be bad Frenchmen out there? Do they not have to have police, jails and prisons to deal with them?

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 2:52:01 PM)
We are looking at it from two opposing sides because you are asking why not the French and I am asking why the French? There are other more realistic candidates for mass murder. Why the French, why not the Russians the Australians, the Canadians? Remember we are talking about people with access to a nuclear bomb, the French government supposedly doesn't know some of it's nationals have obtained a nuclear weapon? They have no lists of mass murdering French nationals to share with you?

kittinSol -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 3:03:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Tell me about it. If a person constantly needs to put down others, what does it say to you about their sense of self-worth? And which nation puts down other nations the most [8D]? Not sure about nations, but if we go by this thread, I think you would be the winner. Did you feel I was putting you down? Certainly wasn't my intention. Perhaps because of my being an evil frog, it's hard not to indulge in my baser instincts, even if it's subconsciously [8\|] .

Irishknight -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 3:05:37 PM)
Think of it this way, if they are so unlikely as suspects, they would be the MOST likely to slip through the cracks. I'm not actually asking why not the french. I could care less if it was theMormon Tabernacle Choir. Actually, I would prefer that because I've always been a bit leery of that group. What I am saying is that you are trying to make a political bias out of something completely irrelevant. Try to look at it from a different point of view. And for some (they know who they are), that means you have to read what is written, not what you want to be written. Perhaps they picked the French because they thought that it would help them avoid the left wing nutjobs calling them prejudice for picking someone of middle eastern descent. There are so many people out there who would say "Those damned people are stereotyping those poor Iranians/Iraqis/Saudis/etc..." In picking the French, they may have been doing exactly the opposite of what you accuse them of doing. Apparently, it doesn't matter who they picked, there would have been someone to accuse them of ulterior and evil motives, wouldn't there?

FullCircle -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 3:14:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight Perhaps they picked the French because they thought that it would help them avoid the left wing nutjobs calling them prejudice for picking someone of middle eastern descent. There are so many people out there who would say "Those damned people are stereotyping those poor Iranians/Iraqis/Saudis/etc..." In picking the French, they may have been doing exactly the opposite of what you accuse them of doing. Apparently, it doesn't matter who they picked, there would have been someone to accuse them of ulterior and evil motives, wouldn't there? I was thinking that could be the case but if so they would have made them home grown terrorists. Personally I think they did it because they sensed a hatred in a portion of the US towards Europeans and they capitalised on it to make the evil guys more hated, as if planting a bomb isn’t enough to evoke such hatred. Films are written for a US audience and that is blatantly obvious sometimes when they are seen in other parts of the world. That's all.

Irishknight -> RE: Indiana Jones makes Russian communists see red (5/26/2008 3:22:08 PM)
Why would they make them homegrown. Who is going to believe that a bunch of rednecks from Arkansas or Alabama got their hands on a nuke? What others read into something is not always what is there. I remember a story about a college professor who was teaching about the symbolism in one of Robert Frost's poems. One of the students wrote to Mr Frost to see if the poet would explain it in a way that he could understand. Mr Frost traveled to the college to inform the professor in front of all of his students that the stated symbolism was not there nor had it ever been intended and that the student who had written him had seen it for what it was.... a pretty poem.

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