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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 3:02:32 PM

gypsygrl

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Disobey in the military and just see what happens! Why wouldn’t obedience be required in a ranked household?

Because a ranked household isn't the military and it hasn't the same state sanctioned authority that the military has. Just sayin'.

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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 3:18:25 PM

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When you meet a superior in the military you are not allowed to question them until they have met your criteria and you decide to grant them the power to command you. Total obedience is required in any ranked institution. Disobey in the military and just see what happens! Why wouldn’t obedience be required in a ranked household? If you don’t like to obey, don’t join either the military or a BDSM household.

Why do I always get the funny feeling that only people with control issues can’t seem to follow well?

And this circles right back to the "why are you here?" question. I think that, for many people, the issue isn't that they won't do X or don't want Y... it's that they don't really -know-, for sure, for the long list of possibilities, what they want or don't want. The difference, I think, between the doormat and the control-freak (on either side of the kneel... I've seen more than a few doormat dominants in my years with my nose poked into the BDSM/Ds/Ms realms) is how they handle those situations that they're vulnerable and less well informed in... whether they're a 'diver' or a 'toe-dipper'... the control freak tries to limit the experience to things xhe feels safe with... dipping hir toes into the BDSM waters. The doormat dives in head first and lets go of everything xhe's holding on to. Xhe may find hirself over hir head, but xhe's hoping that somewhere in the vicinity are the answers (and the adrenalin rush isn't so bad, either.)

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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 8:00:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: starshineowned
I don't expect Master to know about everything but I do trust him enough to know that he would never intentionally hurt me

Would it matter afterwards if your nipples became necrotic that he didn't intentionally do this? I mean, you would still have to have the dead nipples removed.

Sorry, but to me good intentions aren't good enough. If he doesn't know something and I do know enough to realize that his orders are dangerous, then I'm not supposed to be obedient. I'm supposed to protect myself, even if it is from him. And I'm not supposed to believe he knows everything and never makes a mistake. In fact, I'm supposed to help him from fucking up by telling him when he's wrong instead of just doing it anyway.

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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 8:09:09 PM

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complete obedience equals slavery a condition for humans not doormats

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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 9:19:23 PM

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I just thought of my answer for another thread...
I hope to find and grow old with a very smart, fun, doormat of my own.

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RE: Complete obedience = doormat? - 2/2/2009 9:28:48 PM

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Would it matter afterwards if your nipples became necrotic that he didn't intentionally do this? I mean, you would still have to have the dead nipples removed.

Think the point I was making is that he never does things such as that unless he is there to monitor such..which is why I gave some probable reasons as to why others would offer up such info before hand. The point I was making is that knowing that information..if after 20 mins of having them on I could easily express the discomfort without resorting to putting "my info" in there as if he did not know what he was doing. Your trust may not be there to do this..but mine is.

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