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ownedgirlie -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 10:30:42 AM)
As usual, Omega, I loved and agreed with your post. A friend and I went to a make-up consult at Macy's once, when they were having a special on Prescriptives, and had our faces done. When the make up artist was finished, we looked at each other and both exclaimed, at the same time, "WOW!!! You look HOT!!!" We went out with a male friend of ours that night, who was beaming, saying we looked awesome. That much make up can be tastefully done, and can look brilliant, if applied well. Now, if he wants bright blue from lash to brow...that would be scary. [;)] Also, to emphasize brow arches, a good esthitician can wax them to look wonderful.

MsMillgrove -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 11:32:58 AM)
In reply to WalterRego and the earring issue. At 60, you have the best of all worlds regarding an earring. Younger people who might indulge in some age discrimination will look at it and think twice--about who you are. Your peers will know that you are like the the rest of us--finally able to quit caring what anyone thinks. By now we made it or we didn't. Aesthetically, from viewing your photo, it's going to look great on you too! Your mistress wants you to have an earring. It will please her. Does it matter why she wants it? I say go for it.

lally3 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 11:37:37 AM)
ive never got on with makeup. foundation is a really difficult thing to get the hang of, if youve never used it. if i need some extra help evening out skin tone i use a light tinted moisturiser, vichy do nice ones, but put on a moisturiser first, like you would if you were putting on a fake tan. have you thought about getting your eyelashes tinted and maybe have some semi-permanent eyelashes applied. friend did that and it completely changed her look from pretty to WOW, both reduce the need for heavy mascara and its not expensive. another thing is pick out a really nice lipstick, with a matching lip liner, put the liner on first then the lippy. i can feel totally different with a bit of lippy (thanks lucious!). these are all little tricks ive picked up - i know its not heavy heavy makeup, but, start slow and itll build your confidence and your comfort with using makup and with a couple of cheaty tricks you could reduce the overall heavy makeup thing but look madeup without the feeling of slapping on muck and feeling uncomfortable with it. in the end, if when you look in the mirror you think, 'hey, not bad kid' then youre going to enjoy yourself much more. 'dissappointing' is a subbie-imposed self-flaggeratory device we seem to be extremely good at. hard wired to please when we think we havent its devastating. perspective is 20:20 - get that, probably by talking to your Master about it all, and that apparently impossible thing becomes not so impossible.

OmegaG -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 11:45:38 AM)
and always wear sunscreen. You can find tinted sunscreens that take the place of foundations and you can find foundations with sunscreen, Even in the midst of winter or on a cloudy day, your skin will thank you.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 11:50:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lally3 ive never got on with makeup. foundation is a really difficult thing to get the hang of, if youve never used it. if i need some extra help evening out skin tone i use a light tinted moisturiser, vichy do nice ones, but put on a moisturiser first, like you would if you were putting on a fake tan. have you thought about getting your eyelashes tinted and maybe have some semi-permanent eyelashes applied. friend did that and it completely changed her look from pretty to WOW, both reduce the need for heavy mascara and its not expensive. another thing is pick out a really nice lipstick, with a matching lip liner, put the liner on first then the lippy. i can feel totally different with a bit of lippy (thanks lucious!). these are all little tricks ive picked up - i know its not heavy heavy makeup, but, start slow and itll build your confidence and your comfort with using makup and with a couple of cheaty tricks you could reduce the overall heavy makeup thing but look madeup without the feeling of slapping on muck and feeling uncomfortable with it. in the end, if when you look in the mirror you think, 'hey, not bad kid' then youre going to enjoy yourself much more. The best thing to do with lip liner is to line the lips but then fill in the entire lip with the liner. The liner will look like lipstick. That way even when your lipstick wears off, you still have the colored liner underneath. I like colors like red and cherry colored lip liner. Also, NEVER use orange lipstick. It makes teeth look yellow. Cherry makes them look whiter.

OmegaG -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 12:02:35 PM)
I concure, blue undertones bring out white, yellow and oragne undertones bring out yellow. Same works for foundations.

burningdesires47 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 12:17:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 The best thing to do with lip liner is to line the lips but then fill in the entire lip with the liner. The liner will look like lipstick. That way even when your lipstick wears off, you still have the colored liner underneath. I like colors like red and cherry colored lip liner. Also, NEVER use orange lipstick. It makes teeth look yellow. Cherry makes them look whiter. Except on people for whom cherry lipstick looks like fuschia, and red with a very slight orange tint to it (or orange with burgundy over it) looks like bright slut cherry red... it matters less how to teeth look and more how the lipstick looks with your SKIN

littleone35 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 12:43:40 PM)
I don't wear much makup myself but i know how to apply it when i do. I usually go with blush, masacra and lipstick (no lip liner). On special occasions (like a wedding) i will do the works eye shadow,eyeliner and foundation added to my usual makeup. I think less is more if applied right. You should talk to your Master tell him it will take you a little time to get usd to the makeup can you do it in baby steps. Best of luck. Matt's littleone

AquaticSub -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 1:17:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tinkerbelle3 Baby steps is always good! thanks for the suggestion. BTW, I do take very good care of my skin which is why make up has never been a big thing for me. People look at me and think I'm 10 years younger than I am : ) You are very welcome. I'm intimately familiar with looking in the mirror after someone has done my make-up and going "Who is that? That isn't me!". You might also want to look through fashion magazines together and see if you can pick a look you both love. [:)]

DMFParadox -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 1:31:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littleone35 I usually go with blush, masacra and You like a little blushing massacre before you go out? Me too. D

softness -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 1:35:53 PM)
Sir had to be quite stern with me about this ... I am not allowed to be harder on myself than He is ... or more sensitvely put "Slut don't beat yourself, thats my job" I crush myself when I make a mistake, anywhere in life ... letting him down is just horrible .. but the fact that you are so obviously putting everything into pleasing your Master ... will count for a lot Sir said very kindly to me last week .. its that I try my very very hardest to be pleasing that counts... and it sounds like that is what you are doing with the cosmetics

metalmiss -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:14:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tinkerbelle3 How do others deal with disappointing the one they love most? "Disappointed" is the most horrible word in the English language when coming from a Dominant.. shudders Its the one word i dread, it makes me feel like a complete failure as a person. When i find myself with a problem that i can't fix, if on any level i begin to wonder and worry about whether the outcome will disapoint Him.. i stop and think to myself.. Have i given this 100%? Have i tried to the best of my ability? If the answers are yes, then i have nothing to worry about.. Because He would only be disappointed if i hadn't. So long as i try my hardest i have a proud Master, whether the outcome at the end of the day is good OR bad.

xxblushesxx -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:19:57 PM)
I totally understand where you are coming from. My 'usual' makeup is some eyeliner and lipstick, and sometimes some 'base'. HM loves the 'slutty' look...(His words) I feel like an idiot, especially when I've always felt that people who wear certain types of makeup in a certain type of way either have something to hide, or they just don't know any better. Our compromise is that I wear my regular makeup every day, and my 'slut' makeup when we play, or when we go out together.

Bound2One -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:32:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cantilena I happened to get my face done in Vegas last year by a top notch professional, and I'm here to tell you I never looked better than what she did with make-up. It can be done... but it may require going to someone who really knows what they're doing. Then practise... practise... practise. Best wishes. Another tip in this vein ... watch the makeover shows on channels like TLC. I love What Not to Wear and have learned lots about dressing and makeup and hair. I'm pretty much a 'girly girl' and love makeup and clothes, but I'm always open to learning new techniques and philosophies. You can pick up on different tricks - maybe a new way to apply the eyeshadow or something - that you can try in front of your mirror. Try and have fun with it if you're going to make this change for him. Makeup doesn't have to make you look young or silly. It can be very sophisticated and attractive. Play with different shades and tones too. Good luck. I know this isn't easy and it can hit pretty hard at your self image. Just walking into Sephora sometimes I feel gawky and awkward, even though i love the place! lol

Bound2One -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:35:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tinkerbelle3 quote: ORIGINAL: Willowmoon Hmmm when you say heavy make up can you give us an example of what he wants you to wear makeup wise. http://www.everydayminerals.com/ He'd like me to wear eye liner, eye shadow up to the brow, brow pencil to arch the eyebrows, lip liner and lip stick, contoured blush on my cheeks, foundation etc etc etc UGH! Tink ... I wear all of that every day, except lip liner which I don't need, and throw it on in maybe 5 minutes - light natural colors, but it's there. My point being - just because it's a lot of product doesn't mean that it's got to look heavy and caked on. You just need to learn how to apply it. BTW - instead of brow pencil, go to Sephora and ask about their brow powder .. you use a stiff angled brush to apply it and it goes on really nice and lightly. I have rather sparse eyebrows and it looks much more natural than a pencil. *edited for spelling

tinkerbelle3 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:47:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OmegaG it's actually a standard make-up routine for many women. What I'm wondering about is his idea of the eye shadow from lash to brow-- I hope he's thinking of the three shade color combinations where the ridge is a pale shade (which gives the eye lift and brightness) rather then one solid color which will make her look not quite so complimentary. (oh, and I worked as a makeup consultant for a while years ago). Eye brow shaping and shading will frame the eyes and make them pop. Mascarra and eye-liner will define the eyes and give them a sultry bed-room eye look or an open, more awake look depending on how smoky you make them. (a touch of white eye-liner in the inner corner will aslo make them seem more alive) Blush gives a healthy invigorated look Foundation makes skin appear flawless and smooth Lip liner frames the lips (should be the same shade as the lipstick) and gives the lipstick a stopping point and lipstick tends to give a woman a defined mouth and finished look. One thing to avoid is both heavy/dark colors on both the eye and the lips, if you choose smokey eyes, go pale on the lips, if you choose dark lips, go fresher on the eyes-- doing both will give an overdone look. Edited because I can't spell. Thanks for these tips! And, no he doesn't ask me to wear this make up everyday. OMG. He wants me to wear it when it's just us and we're playing. He'd like me to wear a 'lite' version of all that make up for going out. But you know, when I'm cleaning the garage or walking the dog or doing laundry he does agree that pulling my hair back, wearing flip flops and no make up is best : )

tinkerbelle3 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:53:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bound2One quote: ORIGINAL: tinkerbelle3 quote: ORIGINAL: Willowmoon Hmmm when you say heavy make up can you give us an example of what he wants you to wear makeup wise. http://www.everydayminerals.com/ He'd like me to wear eye liner, eye shadow up to the brow, brow pencil to arch the eyebrows, lip liner and lip stick, contoured blush on my cheeks, foundation etc etc etc UGH! Tink ... I wear all of that every day, except lip liner which I don't need, and throw it on in maybe 5 minutes - light natural colors, but it's there. My point being - just because it's a lot of product doesn't mean that it's got to look heavy and caked on. You just need to learn how to apply it. BTW - instead of brow pencil, go to Sephora and ask about their brow powder .. you use a stiff angled brush to apply it and it goes on really nice and lightly. I have rather sparse eyebrows and it looks much more natural than a pencil. *edited for spelling Thanks again for the suggestions ~ It's nice to get so much support : )

faerytattoodgirl -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 2:56:05 PM)
quote: One of his preferences is that I wear make-up who needs it? i dont wear it...i am of natural beauty and possess lots of it.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 3:41:15 PM)
I do an everyday face.Foundation, concealer, blush, eyebrow pencil to fill in brows. eyeliner on the top lids, mascara on the top lids only and lip-pencil. this is 3 minutes. An evening out full eyeshadow .

RavenMuse -> RE: handling disappointment (6/3/2008 5:01:02 PM)
Regarding makeup or even clothing... do you trust Him? your reaction says you don't... you are letting you own lack of confidence get in the way of your confidence in Him. If He says you look good, take a deep breath, believe in Him and step out to face the world. That sort of thing isn't a phobia... it is lack of self belief.... if you can't bring yourself to believe in yourself... believe in HIM!

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