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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/6/2008 10:17:45 AM   
Maya2001


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How did you meet him a month ago on collarme if you just joined today?

Probably found the person on Alt or AFF and came here after to ask questions because in her  gut  she knows it is wrong but her brain is not in gear at the moment because she is too caught up in  sub frenzy and is unable to reason clearly



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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/6/2008 10:21:42 AM   
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D, you're fifth in line with the marriage proposals today, but at least you're more "local", and not from nigeria like most of the others are.  i know of  2 people that have been booted from the forums "for life", or at least until they create new accounts. 

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/6/2008 11:26:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subdevra

you win spanklette

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You obviously haven't read the post about the mutes in Kentucky, I think it was.


absolutely fascinating reading...

devra




That one should have taken some sort of CM award.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/6/2008 1:59:44 PM   
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Ahhh. good point. Hopefully that is the case and this woman isnt really off her rocker!

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 8:22:45 AM   
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You´re right- I have to think. I was too caught up, he took all my free time, demanding, that I should be there, and he use all his free time with me,in front of the computer. Even in holidays, even i weekends. Texting me, telling me to get up and come to the computer. small breaks for dinner and so on, but only, to agree,
when to come back to the computer. It´s not an excuse, but that and his behaviour, makes it hard to think. You´re too exhausted too,afterwards.
this weekend he´s not at home, or what i know, he said he will be working. So I finally got some space.
I have thought about,what you have said, and your right, I have to think. I still have this strange affection from his side hanging over me, and I know I have to
stand firm. You´re right, there´s not excuse, that he cannot come visiting me at first. He even earns more than I do,or at least he should. I will tell him that,
and also the rest. And then, I´ll see, what he does and says. He better have a good explanation from saying no.
That´s the first one. Let´s say, he does that, everything goes fine about that. And I got his information and so on. Then, if I´m visiting him, I´m going to be cautious.
I am from Denmark,he is from London. If I am going to visit him, later on, IF, what is the best way, to arrange that? I mean, about where to stay, his home,
where to play if playing and so on.?
(only if everything else is alright)
No I am not going to give him access to my money. I am going to be cautious as mentioned above, and then, I will simply find a good excuse and then see what
he says. And does. He is going to prove to me,that he can be trusted.
No,I have said so many times to him,that you just dont fall in love like that, you can have an imagination or idea, but youll never know. He just says "well, not
everythings in life are logical, I just had a good feeling about it and then Ill let go, why do you love me? there you see. some things cant be explained."
and pushed me to take a stand about us, and then thought he could do whatever he liked because of that.
But no.


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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 8:42:45 AM   
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this weekend he´s not at home, or what i know, he said he will be working. So I finally got some space.


Are you kidding?  There is this thing called an "off" button on your computer.  Also you do not have to engage in conversation just because he wants to.  You are in control here.


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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 8:53:40 AM   
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~Fast Reply~

I actually did read this whole thread, but only because I became morbidly curious if you (OP) would say anthing - even one single thing - that was positive about this relationship.

And you didn't.

You've described love that is inexplicable by him, that he wants a joint account with you, that he seems to hate all the subs in London (which is odd... you know, London is a big ass place with lots of people living in it), etc etc etc.  But what you haven't mentioned is any balancing feeling of joy or happiness on your end.

It seems to me, and I'm not saying this to be snarky or rude, but it seems to me you're on here venting over an online relationship you know damn well is full going south and getting there fast.  You're on here vindicating your own emotions and common sense... as another post mentioned: You already know the answer to your questions. 

Do you really think anybody here can make irrational behavior from some online dominant rational for you?  Think about it.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 9:55:12 AM   
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Oh,and about the money, he said he told me from the start, he didnt want to give me control over the money. As a slave I wouldnt have
access, and the reason he doesnt want me to control the money Im making now either is, I would be in control.
I have gone through our conversations again, I have saved them, and he only focus on me going to visit him, me earning money to do so.
No i dont know what I feel anymore,its mixed. Its not always that way, joy and happiness well yes, before the reality strikes in.
He has a strange way to get me into that again, in different ways. As i mentioned, first now when hes away I feel like Im being myself again.
No, Im here to get some others point of view, advice and in the end so i can stay clear.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 10:06:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: monaliza

the reason he doesnt want me to control the money Im making now either is, I would be in control.
Let me reiterate: You are in a CYBER relationship. You can't be a slave to the internet. Until you have met in person and come to an agreement, you are not his slave/submissive. Until that point, you have control over your life. Grow a back bone.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 11:08:31 AM   
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Why is it that you "met" him about a month or so ago.....you "met" him here, on CM, yet you joined 6/6/08 and were last on line 6/7/08.

I might be a donkey's behind...but I have way more sense and see far more red flags than you do.    I'll camp in a tent in some timbuktoo before I give my respect, money, body or trust to someone this disgenuine.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 11:55:14 AM   
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PPfftt. Never mind. (just shakes head)


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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 3:45:51 PM   
oblige


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He sounds like the online domly version of a nigerian scam artist. I actually engaged one in conversaton once for a little while, and the head trips this man is playing on you sound beyond similar, but with the clear M/s twist. which is tugging at your  heart. You are worth more. Any Dom would be glad to come visit you and pay his own way. Denmark is not that far from London!

Please, if you and your story is indeed real, take some time, talk to some face time BDSM people in Denmark in your local community and above all TRUST your instincts. Your questions to him have merit and are being ignored. He is not behaving Dominant, he is being dominating--there is a huge difference. Do not waste your time visiting with him any more online, and do not pay your own way to go see him!  (I am picturing you stuck in London with no real person to meet, or worse, someone who took all your money and dissappeared after perhaps even harming you...) *sigh*   

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 4:09:45 PM   
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Open your eyes.  Heck, how do you know he doesnt have 5 other women dangling with him in IM convinced they are in love?
Don't they have Television shows like they have here in the USA where it clearly proves people can do and be what ever they want online, on the phone, ect.. and some gullible target will buy into it and cry when they are scammed.  I am not talking about one victim at a time either.  Some people are so good they have several going at once.
If he truly wants you and not your cash, then he would be happy knowing you had an account (NOT JOINT), and maybe sent him a copy of your bank statement.  Of course even if you did that I would make sure your account number was torn off the top or blackened out.
It is not a matter of trust, it is a matter of having common sense.
Tell me.. if your mother, sister, cousin, friend, or child had a similar relationship, what would you caution them about?
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: monaliza

No, but can it be possible to achieve?
He do sits in front of his computer everytime he gets home from work,until hes going to bed,also when he doesnt work.. quite hard for that spouse,if any..



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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/7/2008 8:41:40 PM   
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Let me get this straight: you've never met the man, he wants a joint account that you won't have any control of, he only gives you a cell number to call, he doesn't want you to see his place, he wants you to relocate to him sight unseen, he wants you to lose weight, he demands that you "talk" or chat with him on the Internet all the time, and you're even considering this?? Are you that desperate that you think he's being real with you?? Wake up and drop that man!

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 1:04:38 AM   
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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 7:54:01 AM   
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After reading this thread.. Three words of advice spring to mind..

Block..

Delete..

Ignore..




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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 10:08:07 AM   
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you´re right, I have to be cautious. In every way. Right now,I´m thinking about, how to be cautious,the details,where and when,
how to figure out, to maybe let him come visiting me, take a friend with me, many options, find out the truth about this and that.
Oh,..he text me today. He went for work over the weekend, and he text me saying "I had run out of credit and could not reply,
yhis is a hard and difficult weekend and I have migrane too,I´m having a bad weekend,hard work and headace". Then I just
replied So have I. no answer. It makes me suspicious again, that he mentiones money. I mean, he said to me he earns 400-
500.000 a year.

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 10:21:09 AM   
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What is there to really figure out ... the guy is a nutcase using BDSM as a cover , most likely a scam artist/thief  and may even be a violent sex offender or even murderer      why do you think he does not want you at his home or  will not provide a home phone # and you likley do not even know his real name....it is so afterward when he takes your money or beats the crap out of you  and possibly murdered you the police will not be able to track him down...I can almost guarantee  that he will not get on a plane  or rent a hotel where you have personal  information about what plane he took     as it would make it easy for the police to track him ... he is not a Dom or Master

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 5:36:54 PM   
monaliza


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Well,Ive just told him,that if he wants to meet me,he can get on a plane to Denmark,where I live. He said no,he wanted to see me first at his. when I asked why,he said he was going to bed,because he was tired.well he hade been driving late and just came home, and the clock was many. I decided to take it up,again I also wrote an email about it,and now im curious,what hes going to answer. I also said that IF I was going to visit him, I could take all the safety precautious rules,i ever could imagine, and that he of course wanted me to be safe. And, that I could stay longer than a weekend and even visit his home and get to know him better-just get to know. Im very curious on the answer.
Another thing i think is strange, when he went off IM, he came on again,as on line,busy and you know-all the icons up there. I asked him why he didnt replyed and he said it was because of the remoter! is that true?

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RE: About new Master,advice - 6/8/2008 6:00:15 PM   
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i get the feeling he is going to ask for money - probably for an emergency operation for his sick sister - and all his millions are tied up in securities that he can't touch for 4 more years with out looking his shirt.                              just a thought.

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