PeonForHer
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Oh Lord, M, I'm not good with multiple quotes-including-quotes in one post. I hope this doesn't look like an unholy mess. Please bear with me . . . quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer One is that it could do with loosening up because people are so uptight about categorisations So, all the people who agree with you are kool and loose, and all of the people who disagree, are uptight, and wrong? Is there room for agreeing to disagree? Yes, there's infinite room for agreeing to disagree. Or there could be, IMO, if people were less concerned about categorising. I think they would be less concerned about categorising if it were shown how far from watertight is any method of categorising. quote: The second is that I think they're uptight partly because they dislike bisexual or homosexual impulses in others, or themselves. No one here has said they dislike bisexuals or men who phuck trees. One may or may not be attracted to a man who drinks tea, but that shouldn't mean anything to anyone. We all want or are turned on by particular things, and what trips my trigger may not be the same as what does yours (generic you). When I say I think they're uptight partly because they dislike bisexual or homosexual impulses in others, or themselves, I really do mean no more than "my guess is". I can't stand cod-psychoanalysis done on me and I don't want to do it on anyone else. IMO, even the best-trained can only venture the most modest sorts of hypotheses when it comes to "reading unconscious motives". It's all too easy to end up with pseudo-intellectual quackery otherwise. quote: The third, and the most important of all by far, I put in my reply to Ms DDom, above: that it's a complete damned waste - and a sometimes harmful one - to go around suppressing (in oneself or others) an impulse that'll hurt nobody and could be enjoyable. Why do you think anyone is suppressing anything? If one is not willing to have sex hanging from the chandeliers, it's because one is repressed? It's entirely possible not to want/need to try everything in this world, and still be ok. I'm assuming that some people, generally (as opposed to people writing on this thread) do suppress large and long-term desires, for whatever reason. In this respect, I keep thinking of a British comedian who died recently - he'd been homosexual, but had never had a partner, all his life. That seemed so tragic to me. Of course it's possible not to want/need to try everything in this world, and still be OK. Swinging on chandeliers isn't in the "large and long-term desire" category for me - though stealing the Crown Jewels before I check out is approaching it. quote: Not particularly relevant but - an (entirely vanilla) ex girlfriend of mine used to call me "poof" as a term of endearment - day-to-day, I mean. Still makes me laugh when I think about it. ;- What does poof mean? M "Poof" is roughly equivalent to "queer", but probably a bit less harsh. Not used for lesbians, though. It's old fashioned slang and is increasingly used in an ironic way - to mock those old-fashioned enough to be homophobic.
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