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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 10:20:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is interesting reading the posts listed here. Although i have never wished to have my mouth around another male's cock, it is something that Mistress finds pleasing. If and when Mistress does instruct me to do so, i will for her pleasure.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 10:22:34 AM   
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I think penises are one of the most powerful icons in our culture. And have Potent effects on the human psyche. Their energy produce both overwhelming attraction, harsh repulsion as well as unshakeable curiosity in yet others. However you feel about a cock....it is most certainly a strong feeling usually... one way or the other.  You need only to hold  an impressive hard one in your hands to become overwhelmed by its intense force, energy and power. This is quite apparent by the length of this thread.


I think that's interesting, LV because it may (weak hypothesis and cod-psychology coming up!) explain an odd difference between male and female attitudes to cocks that I've sometimes noticed.  Most of the time, of course, men's cocks aren't hard and that's how men will see them in the mirror or when they look down.  They can look singularly unimpressive in that state.  (Or so I hear. )

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 4:49:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Penises entertain me in all states, Peon.  Kind of like nipples, fun to play with and varied in appearance. 

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 4:50:06 PM   
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Most of the time, of course, men's cocks aren't hard and that's how men will see them in the mirror or when they look down.  They can look singularly unimpressive in that state
True, and this is why we speak for days, weeks, months and years about the many ways of getting it working and looking impressive.   It's no wonder, the thing is beautiful when it takes on a life of it's own.

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I think they would be less concerned about categorising if it were shown how far from watertight is any method of categorising.
I think most people know the limitations of words or categories.   When a gentleman is asked "are you bi', he could always ask for clarification on the meaning.   When a lady is asking about his sexual leanings, she could always go specific and ask "are you more attracted to a, b, or c?   Have you ever done any of the above, etc.    I'm pro categorization for ease of communication, but I try to follow up with details and more importantly try to feel for actions and reactions when trying to connect with someone.

Whenever possible, it's more important to speak to him about alternative scenarios, and see what reactions I get, than how he describes or names his behaviors.   M

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 5:19:46 PM   
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Most of the time, of course, men's cocks aren't hard and that's how men will see them in the mirror or when they look down.  They can look singularly unimpressive in that state


True, and this is why we speak for days, weeks, months and years about the many ways of getting it working and looking impressive.   It's no wonder, the thing is beautiful when it takes on a life of it's own.
 
Hell's bells, M - are you trying to give me nightmares?  I have to go to bed with one right between my legs! 

- But thanks.  That's a sincerely charming way of looking at it. 





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I think they would be less concerned about categorising if it were shown how far from watertight is any method of categorising.

I think most people know the limitations of words or categories.   When a gentleman is asked "are you bi', he could always ask for clarification on the meaning.   When a lady is asking about his sexual leanings, she could always go specific and ask "are you more attracted to a, b, or c?   Have you ever done any of the above, etc.    I'm pro categorization for ease of communication, but I try to follow up with details and more importantly try to feel for actions and reactions when trying to connect with someone.

Whenever possible, it's more important to speak to him about alternative scenarios, and see what reactions I get, than how he describes or names his behaviors.   M

The paradox for me is that I think one has to set up categories first in order to get some grip on differences and see what's hiding.  But, later, one has to question those categories as far as one can to see what they're hiding, too.  If that makes any sense . . . 

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 6:10:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MzMia

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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

actually.. there is no anger or hostility.. in fact quite the opposite.. a genuine curiosity...


Madame4a, I will explain myself for you, one last time.
I have tried to explain this many times in this 9 month old thread.
 
I have talked to men on this site and others, who request and desire to be forced-bi.
I have had many straight men I have had to literally run away from, because they want to
spend HOURS talking about how they want me to make them suck cocks.
When I say I have run across "many men" asking for this, I am not exaggerating.
I am not even going to start on the profiles on this site, of straight men that list in their profile
they want to be forced into bisexual activity.

I know there are those that only do if for their Dominant's desire {that is different}, yet they did choose NOT to make it a "hard limit".
I am sure Madame4a, you know what limits are.
I agree that sexual activities do not define orientation.
I really do understand the difference.

After talking to more thousands of  men that are begging to be forced-bi,  my vision of course is blurred.
Actually, any activity that someone approaches me and begs for, is just not forced in my book.
This also includes: forcing someone to cross dress, adult babies, and anything on a list that they are asking me to FORCE them to do .
I am still looking for someone to "force" me to take their money and go shopping.

I am going to now force myself to find something tasty to eat.
Don't make me do it, please!
Rather than continue the debate, I wanted to explain what I encounter all the time.
........as long as no one gets hurt, live and let live...really.


Being attracted to men physically and being sexually aroused by humiliation are two different things. Hence the broadness of BDSM.

There are men - one particularly, tall, athletic, young, college educated, good looking friar I met once - that are heterosexual but want nothing to do with women in sexual or obligatory terms outside of friendship and charity. I still remember him telling me (him in his late 20's) you have to remember, "...you'll have to be with her the rest of your life." And he wasn't meaning that in flattering terms of body and bodily functions.


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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 6:13:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

I think penises are one of the most powerful icons in our culture. And have Potent effects on the human psyche. Their energy produce both overwhelming attraction, harsh repulsion as well as unshakeable curiosity in yet others. However you feel about a cock....it is most certainly a strong feeling usually... one way or the other.  You need only to hold  an impressive hard one in your hands to become overwhelmed by its intense force, energy and power. This is quite apparent by the length of this thread.


Damn! I don't whether to ask you to hold my cock in your hand or to ask you to write poetry? LOL!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 9:30:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

the words sexual preference tend to imply choice.. I'd suggest that the words sexual orientation are much more appropriate...


Been thinking about this for some time now.  Does someone who is "bi" also fit in the box called "sexual orientation" or is it a "choice"?  I kinda feel like it's a choice. Just wondering or should this question be another thread?

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 10:43:57 PM   
Andalusite


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Status: offline 		I suppose some heterosexual men can be turned on by another man, but the OP asked what people think of heterosexual men sucking other heterosexual men's cocks. The image it evokes for *me* is two guys with limp dicks who are frantically trying to perform for the Domme in question.

I've played with a gay man and a bicurious man in one scene, and they did interact, but not with anything involving genitals or humiliation. I had one of them hold the other's wrists, and do nipple play, etc. They're both submissive-leaning switches, so I had lots of possibilities to work with.

I'm brand new here, but have had a lot of sub men on a different site express an interest in forced cock sucking. I've discussed it a little with the gay guy I mentioned above, and he'd hypothetically be interested and willing to have me be the one in charge, but I still would feel weird about it, especially if the man needed a lot of verbal humiliation or physical force. I don't think I'd be interested - casual sex isn't something I want anyone I'm dating to engage in. If I had two bi guys who were interested in a polyfidelitous relationship, maybe, but the chemistry between them is what I would find hot about it. I'm not particularly interested in any form of humiliation play, and this area seems particularly touchy.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/28/2009 11:10:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UPSG
There are men - one particularly, tall, athletic, young, college educated, good looking friar I met once - that are heterosexual but want nothing to do with women in sexual or obligatory terms outside of friendship and charity. I still remember him telling me (him in his late 20's) you have to remember, "...you'll have to be with her the rest of your life." And he wasn't meaning that in flattering terms of body and bodily functions.
In this case, this guys issues are beyond the scope of this particular thread, but there is hope.

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PeonForHer
I have to go to bed with one right between my legs!
Well, I was thinking more when a lady is there who can apreciate and make good use of it when it comes alive that way.

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The paradox for me is that I think one has to set up categories first in order to get some grip on differences and see what's hiding.  But, later, one has to question those categories as far as one can to see what they're hiding, too.  If that makes any sense . .
It makes absolute sense...   Especially when someone tells me "I am definitely A,"  and I find that when he sees or feels B and C, he reacts much more readily and enthusiastically, so yes, this makes perfect sense.   M





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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 3:06:44 AM   
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Wow, a "BlowJob Domme".

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 3:32:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		LOL, there are moments when I debate changing sides from f to m sub) just for about 5 minutes...looks up...
 
I also do not mind pleasing the demon when it awakes , so to speak.. but only for one person, hmmmm, now there is a question for another thread *wg*

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 3:43:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		just wondering if sucking on a dildo makes me in my late father's words.."a peepee licker"??

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 6:16:08 AM   
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Wow, a "BlowJob Domme".



*Wonders whether a thread on Blowjob Dommes, and whether that is an oxymoron, would go 55 pages and whose bull that would gore *

*Snort*


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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 6:37:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjan

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ORIGINAL: diklikr4u



Wow, a "BlowJob Domme".



*Wonders whether a thread on Blowjob Dommes, and whether that is an oxymoron, would go 55 pages and whose bull that would gore *

*Snort*



I'd give it 14 pages, at best.  And, in the spirit of this thread, I'd say that each participant in your scenario is straight or bi (Assuming that that's a biological c*ck that's getting a blowjob). 
Davan

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 6:44:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Again, I'm not going to tell you how to identify.  I think orientation is not a choice, and for me it very much is not.  I often believe that some heterosexuals don't see that as they grow up being the 'norm' -- there is no need to examine their sexuality, its what society expects of them and they don't think much about it.  Those of us with different orientations have to examine it -- you take a lot of time trying to figure out why you're different, among other things.  While at this age, and as long as I've been out, I've accepted who I am -- when I realized it, and had I had a choice, I might have made a different one.  I'm wired this way, I didn't make a conscious choice to be a lesbian.  I don't believe sexuality works that way.  Perhaps as a bisexual there is choice in the gender of partner, but I'm guessing that the overall orientation is what it is... maybe not.  I'm not you and I'm not bisexual, and yes, its likely better in another thread.



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ORIGINAL: Madame4a

the words sexual preference tend to imply choice.. I'd suggest that the words sexual orientation are much more appropriate...


Been thinking about this for some time now.  Does someone who is "bi" also fit in the box called "sexual orientation" or is it a "choice"?  I kinda feel like it's a choice. Just wondering or should this question be another thread?


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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 6:49:34 AM   
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an interest in forced cock sucking


the interest makes me believe it won't be forced when it happens.
I think it is more a kinda shame of males then a hetero/bi/gay thing.
IF they like sucking cock.. why not just say so..instead of hiding behind "forced"

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 7:14:12 AM   
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an interest in forced cock sucking


the interest makes me believe it won't be forced when it happens.
I think it is more a kinda shame of males then a hetero/bi/gay thing.
IF they like sucking cock.. why not just say so..instead of hiding behind "forced"


When we combine the words "Male" and "Heterosexual" the social expectations on behavior are pretty weighty.  And when you come to realize that "male hetero" is the expected default state of all males in most societies, you come to the crux of the issue of "forced" this or that...

We teach our males to stuff their emotions...to suck it up (not that! )...and take it like a Man - don't show weakness...and all that that implies. 

So when certain proclivities like bi-curiosity or attraction to things feminine come up...they are often stuffed and hidden, and when the guy finally -has- to explore it or explode...he looks for someone to "force" him because it is the path of least resistance.  He does not have to face what he likes or what he -is doing/has done- because he can shunt it off to having been "forced". 

Rationalizing at its finest...   

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 8:41:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JustDarkness

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an interest in forced cock sucking


the interest makes me believe it won't be forced when it happens.
I think it is more a kinda shame of males then a hetero/bi/gay thing.
IF they like sucking cock.. why not just say so..instead of hiding behind "forced"


Being forced isn't something they are hiding behind it is the whole point.  Sub males who enjoy service like being told to do things that demonstrate that the woman has power over them.  Take the less culturally charged act of kissing feet.  Kissing the feet of a vanilla lover in bed is just kind of cute.  A woman ordering a man to kneel and kiss her feet , boiing!  Forced footworship?  Not really possible to force a sub to do something he likes but it's not about the feet is it?  Okay there are foot fetishists but that's not what's going on in my head when I'm on my knees.  Maybe some of these guys who request forced bi specifically really do have a thing for the dick but I doubt the woman's role is an excuse.  This is power exchange.
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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 1/29/2009 9:50:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		My experience is that the woman's role is the excuse.. the thing that makes it OK to do... regardless of orientation.  Unfortunately, you can't separate the whole set of orientation issues from the forced or not argument -- but my experience, and I'm guessing from the postings here others' too, is that the woman's role is in fact the excuse...


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ORIGINAL: subtex

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ORIGINAL: JustDarkness

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an interest in forced cock sucking


the interest makes me believe it won't be forced when it happens.
I think it is more a kinda shame of males then a hetero/bi/gay thing.
IF they like sucking cock.. why not just say so..instead of hiding behind "forced"


Being forced isn't something they are hiding behind it is the whole point.  Sub males who enjoy service like being told to do things that demonstrate that the woman has power over them.  Take the less culturally charged act of kissing feet.  Kissing the feet of a vanilla lover in bed is just kind of cute.  A woman ordering a man to kneel and kiss her feet , boiing!  Forced footworship?  Not really possible to force a sub to do something he likes but it's not about the feet is it?  Okay there are foot fetishists but that's not what's going on in my head when I'm on my knees.  Maybe some of these guys who request forced bi specifically really do have a thing for the dick but I doubt the woman's role is an excuse.  This is power exchange.
Bill







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