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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 8:26:33 AM

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I find the way this thread is titled a bit perplexing, ""Heterosexual" males sucking cock" SINCE, in a sexual perspective, one is defined by one's actions, neither of the males involved tn the afforementioned actions would be defineable AS heterosexual males. BIsexual, HOMOsexual, yes, but not hetero. This is one of those instances where terms and definitions get in the way. Obviously there are women that enjoy male-on-male action the way there are men who enjoy female-on-female action, no judgements made either way. HOWEVER, per the definition of Rape under the U.C.M.J., "Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense"...Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to change the definition.

Even being an Army wife, the last place I'm going to look for definitions for sexual behavior is the uniform code of military justice.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 9:06:17 AM

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But he would be penatrated by a cock(a fake one but still)

Maybe if I put it another way. If a Dom had his female sub go down on another woman would she be a Lesbian or a submissive??

It's not an actual cock, just an inanimate object which is shaped like one. Wearing one doesn't magically turn a lady into a man - it's just a fun thing she can wear and use, and remove when she's done with it.

She obviously wouldn't be lesbian. She might be bisexual, but doing the oral sex doesn't solely determine that. If she's not at all attracted to the other woman I think she can still be straight, but I pity the poor lady she's licking! Generally speaking, I accept people's self-identification/labelling. I know a lot of "gay" guys who are attracted to the occasional woman, especially if they're intoxicated, but who choose to call themselves gay rather than bisexual. Same goes vice versa for some lesbians. In some cases, I think it's almost more of a political label than a sexual one, and there's a lot of pressure from gay and lesbian folks to "get off the fence, stop being greedy, and choose one or the other."

VeryMercurial, I think a lot of the guys who want this view the other man as just a sex toy, without any needs or emotions of his own. I think it's very disrespectful. I still am a bit amazed by the guys who are just wild for a cock in their mouth or ass, but who can't cope with a little making out or grindy dance with clothes on or *talking* with the other guy.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 9:38:26 AM

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I find the way this thread is titled a bit perplexing, ""Heterosexual" males sucking cock" SINCE, in a sexual perspective, one is defined by one's actions,

Bullshit. One's orientation is defined by one's proclivities. There are numerous cases of gay men and women trying to fit into s heterosexual marriage to be "normal" before they gave it up.

I tend to agree that one's orientation is defined by one's proclivities (in fact, I think that's pretty close to a truism rather than a definition. An orientation is a proclivity, isn't it?). The difficulties arise partly because of social attitudes towards gays, bisexuals, etc (as has been exhaustively discussed back in the murks of this thread). But, also, they arise because in other contexts, people are defined by what they do. If I drive a car, I'm a driver; if I climb mountains, I'm a mountaineer, etc, etc.

Still, who cares? So long as we're all having fun!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 9:47:01 AM

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Man...suck one cock and you're labeled for life...

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 10:05:52 AM

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I agree Delectable Otter.

Video? Naw... it is better in real life (for rizzles)

but I do have to twist myself up like a pretzel.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 10:23:07 AM

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Man...suck one cock and you're labeled for life...

Gawd, I know what you mean. That's how labelling works. I put just one stud on a belt once - and I'm still suffering for it.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 12:17:52 PM

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It's not an actual cock, just an inanimate object which is shaped like one. Wearing one doesn't magically turn a lady into a man - it's just a fun thing she can wear and use, and remove when she's done with it.
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Somehow "come here boy and suck on my inanimate object", Dosen't quite sound the same.

I know that putting on a strapon and giving him a go dosen't make me a man, Thank God.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 12:24:08 PM

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She obviously wouldn't be lesbian. She might be bisexual, but doing the oral sex doesn't solely determine that. If she's not at all attracted to the other woman I think she can still be straight, but I pity the poor lady she's licking!
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But a male would be Bi or homosexual????

Why would you pity the lady recieving??

Edited because apparently I can't figure out how to quote just part of a message!!!!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 1:22:51 PM

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I agree Delectable Otter.

Video? Naw... it is better in real life (for rizzles)

but I do have to twist myself up like a pretzel.

Dude, if I could afford the airfare, I would be THERE!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 1:38:58 PM

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*Wants desperately to start a counter topic called:

heterosexual males cocking snooks

*sits on hands*

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 1:52:46 PM

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But but .... we are way behind the tribute thread !!!!!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 3:53:18 PM

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Edited because apparently I can't figure out how to quote just part of a message!!!!

You have male showing You how ( The pun is free

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 3:55:28 PM

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Freud was a freak... penis envy... yeah right. I doubt if anyone ever asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would ever answer... a man. I don't envy a penis.. I just like them. Some of the shit that guy pulled off and people fell for is amazing in a not so good way. Mention his name and I for one will think whatever follows, is crap.

I had total penis envy while I was a little girl and I still do.

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Freud said himself that he didn't understand women . . .

But forget the question, Lockit. I only dreamt it up to jolly things along here a bit. I don't think anyone's looney enough to believe that idea.

What am I talking about? This is CM!

There are quite a few of us out here.

And I think forced bi is hot. But my belief is that these men want to experience bisexual sex but are too embaressed to try so a Mistress that "forces" them takes away their responsibility for engaging ina a taboo act

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 4:31:49 PM

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Hi CS,

And I think forced bi is hot. But my belief is that these men want to experience bisexual sex but are too embaressed to try so a Mistress that "forces" them takes away their responsibility for engaging ina a taboo act

It could be that, for some. However, buried several pages back I said that I'm bi, but not bi enough to get turned on by a man alone. It'd take the added impulse of doing it as a thing for a domme for me to get my rocks off over it.

Well . . . some might find that completely implausible. All I can say is: it feels like an accurate and honest statement about my own feelings, to me.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 5:11:47 PM

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It could be that, for some. However, buried several pages back I said that I'm bi, but not bi enough to get turned on by a man alone. It'd take the added impulse of doing it as a thing for a domme for me to get my rocks off over it.

Well . . . some might find that completely implausible. All I can say is: it feels like an accurate and honest statement about my own feelings, to me.

Nope, I completely get that, as that is how I feel about other women. Sure, I'll spank either, but getting up close and THAT personal with another woman has no appeal to me. Early on, when I was on the other side of the kneel, I used to refer to myself as 'scene bi;, meaning I realized it wasn't gonna kill me, so I would do it for Someone else, but it had no appeal to myself personally.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 5:36:05 PM

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Yes! Thank you, Sthrn.

Actually, I had a feeling that women as a whole might be more likely to be able to relate to my feelings on this. Over here, the term 'lipstick lesbians' was coined a while ago to describe largely hetero women who'll get it together only when one or more males was part of the dynamic. It was a term generally used quite scathingly, though, by lesbians and others. They pointed out, no doubt correctly, that the porn industry was greatly involved in promoting the phenomenon. Yet a few women I knew at the time said it wasn't solely about women learning that 'girl-on-girl action' was a common turn-on for men and doing it for that reason alone. It did have a lesbian buzz involved.

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 7:54:09 PM

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Wow, I thought a lipstick lesbian was just the opposite of the butch dyke! Tells ya what I know, being het and all..

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 7:56:16 PM

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Femme is the antonym for Butch here :)

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 8:01:23 PM

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That's what I thought, too, that LL meant femme! Le sigh. I'll never keep up with all this new lingo!

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RE: heterosexual males sucking cock - 9/9/2009 9:15:15 PM

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She obviously wouldn't be lesbian. She might be bisexual, but doing the oral sex doesn't solely determine that. If she's not at all attracted to the other woman I think she can still be straight, but I pity the poor lady she's licking!

But a male would be Bi or homosexual????

Why would you pity the lady recieving??

Nah, a guy who is attracted to and intimate with women isn't homosexual either, that would be bisexual. Same goes (reversing gender) for women. Guys who have sex with men they aren't attracted to, and women who have sex with ladies they aren't hot for aren't bisexual necessarily, but the ones who specifically *request* forced scenarios might be bisexual, I don't know. For the most part, I accept the labels they use for themselves.

I think that having sex with someone who you know isn't at all attracted to you, to make someone else happy, would be rather a blow to their ego/self-esteem. I personally am kind of creeped out by it, which is why I'm not into the "forced" thing, even though two men together or two women together who *want* to be and who have chemistry and desire for each other can be smoking hot to watch.

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