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RE: Destruction of Civil Liberties in Canada - 6/12/2008 9:04:45 PM   
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....to CL, there is certainly no explicit incitement to violence in the writing. i gladly concede that point. However, the implicit stuff is very, very close to the line. Check out the martial language, the paranoia, the absurd linking of homosexuality with the repulsive NAMBLA. The courts sentence is clearly an over-reaction. My own thoughts are that he has come this close to a hate crime, but hasn't quite crossed the line. However, should anyone use his words as a justification for gay-bashing (and it's easy to see how a weak mind would), i'd expect him to condemn such an act explicitly. To not do so would merely confirm him as one of those dangerous bigots. Clever enough to stay just this side of the law.

It is definitely more than mere Bible-centered moralizing, that is certain.  And if any part of it were used to sanction violence against homosexuals, I certainly hope he would condemn such rationalizations.

However, I would hope that such speech would never be censured, but would rather be shown in the full light of day, and opposed in that same light.  False ideas cannot stand against vigorous debate.


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RE: Destruction of Civil Liberties in Canada - 6/12/2008 9:07:43 PM   
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However, I would hope that such speech would never be censured, but would rather be shown in the full light of day, and opposed in that same light.  False ideas cannot stand against vigorous debate.



....couldn't agree more. It's hard to rationally oppose a view you think needs opposing if you can't find it.....heh....and that took me way too long on google.

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RE: Destruction of Civil Liberties in Canada - 6/12/2008 9:51:18 PM   
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Oh no! Canada is becoming a Stalinist country! Let's invade Canada and show them how democracy and free speech are really done  .


LMAO.
 
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RE: Destruction of Civil Liberties in Canada - 6/12/2008 10:18:55 PM   
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Oh no! Canada is becoming a Stalinist country! Let's invade Canada and show them how democracy and free speech are really done  .


LMAO.
 
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The only Michael Moore movie that was actually funny and worth watching...

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RE: Destruction of Civil Liberties in Canada - 6/12/2008 11:19:54 PM   
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Just as a reminder and a point of reference - here's a "Biblical" view on homosexuality from  Leviticus 20:13 :

"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."



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