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I may well be mod-spanked for this but I am not asking with sarcasm. Honest.

pinksugarsub, are you for real? Are you asking genuine questions or attempting to be disingenuous?

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Maybe its something to do with seeing your  name in lights      ....    or  on the puter.

I wonder if that can also explain those who start scores of inane threads then complain when people don't fawn over them?

~stef

stef...i don't know you or your posts. 
 
But doesn't your 'hide' button work?
 
pinksugarsub

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Just out of curiosity, can Somone explain to me the phenom of posting to a thread merely to say 'the Op was boring"?
 
pinksugarsub

Mainly to de-humanize and marginalize. Apparently your post did not meet that person's minimum standards of what is post-worthy. /shrug

You have a valid point.  i don't have any idea who stef or MadRabbit, etc, are.  i was absent from the boards for a very long time and quite naturally, when i returned, i found almost all new members here.  It does seem silly to place any importance on the 'opinions' of total strangers.
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Someone mentioned identity and I think thats a good word. It is fine to self-identify, Dom, sub, switch, Socialist what have you.  Others can decide for themselves if you fit that identity.  Sometimes we mis-identify ourselves and may need to change how we identify.

Yea.  i have had a Mentor -- a Man i greatly respect, with 25 years' experience as a Master.  He helped me choose the phrase 'pleasure submissive' to use in describing myself. It was a long, thoughtful process before W/we settled on the right phrase.

We rely on labels a great deal though and the problem is (again as others have pointed out) that if we cannot agree on what a label means then it becomes practically useless.

I would vote for simplifying labels down to their base and go from there.

Others have made similar comments. The idea apeals to me but i'm not clear how it would be applied.  Could You maybe give an example?

My general feeling though is that we use labels as a means not just to parse information but to also rate or rank that information.  One interesting excersise might be to just describe who you are and what you want without using ANY labels (even basic ones) and see who is interested.

Logan

Why don't You do it instead?  LOL.

Thank You for Your coments.
 
pinksugarsub

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Yeah, taking longer this time than when she was :
pleasureforhim,tenderpink5,pinkbutterfly,pinkee,thispinky,pinkpleasures,candystripper,delectablepink,pinkpleasures, and fillepink...

whew, didnt feel like highlighting them all in pink, but anyone go back and read the posts, is the same ad nauseam stuff till folks tire of her, usually doesnt take this long........

edited to add: except for this time, the peptobismol shade and the slashy/speak usually give her away.

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I prefer the word "identity" as opposed to "label", because the problem is when people insist on "labeling" other people, then that is when they become an issue.

So are You saying a phrase in a profile such as 'seeks a Dom' is problematic?

The words become our own and they are used to express parts of ourselves, not to have ourselves conformed to fit the word. As such, the words become part of us and when people attempt to tell us that we are not what we claim to be, they are not merely defining a category for communication, but negating a part of the self which people respond negatively to. (If you don't understand that, then your probably vanilla.)

Nope, sorry -- i tried -- but i didn't understand.  Are You now going to label me 'vanilla'?  How do You reconcile that with Your first point?

If people could think more in terms of "What does this word mean to you?", the kink world might actually lose 25% of it's drama.

Do You mean W/we should try harder to suss out A/another member's intended meaning when T/they use a lable?  How would W/we do that?  What cues do You think W/we can use?

Nihilism is a bit scary for some people...

i don't understand what You meant here.
 
http://www.iep.utm.edu/n/nihilism.htm

i don't remember my Philosophy 101 class all that well...but i have no 'fear' of nilhilism or any other modern philosophy. 
 
What connection did You mean to make between the Op and nilhilism?

....though and I am sure it's only a matter of time before another pontificating pompous pinhead comes forth with the big answer of BDSM metaphysics for all of us to adhere to.

Was this directed at the Op?  Can You please explain why You found the Op 'pontificating on BDSM metaphysics'?

im not trying to put words in Your mouth here.  i just don't understand why You'd respond to questions in an Op You found meritless.
 
pinksugarsub

I am afraid I can't continue, because it seems you are being deliberately being obtuse, because you were offended by my first post and not actually interested in attempting to understand the points presented.

But then again, given your past history of being unable to comprehend what is clearly obvious in other threads, it's possible you are just mentally unable to.

Well, i'm sorry You choose not to clarify Your POV.  i thought some of what You said was interesting.
 
pinksugarsub

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Yeah, taking longer this time than when she was :
pleasureforhim,tenderpink5,pinkbutterfly,pinkee,thispinky,pinkpleasures,candystripper,delectablepink,pinkpleasures, and fillepink...

whew, didnt feel like highlighting them all in pink, but anyone go back and read the posts, is the same ad nauseam stuff till folks tire of her, usually doesnt take this long........

edited to add: except for this time, the peptobismol shade and the slashy/speak usually give her away.

I think her memory also resets every time her name does because this isn't the first time she's played the "I don't know you or your posts" game with me.

~stef

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Maybe its something to do with seeing your  name in lights      ....    or  on the puter.

Okay.  i am not acquainted with you or your posts, so i'm a bit surprised you'd be aware of mine. 
 
Why not use the 'hide' button if that is the case? 
 
Why bother posting to the thread at all?
 
pinkugarsub

Paranoid much?

How do you know she was aiming that specifically at YOU? Believe it or not, the world, or even this message board does NOT revolve around YOU.

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Maybe its something to do with seeing your  name in lights      ....    or  on the puter.

Okay.  i am not acquainted with you or your posts, so i'm a bit surprised you'd be aware of mine. 
 
Why not use the 'hide' button if that is the case? 
 
Why bother posting to the thread at all?
 
pinkugarsub

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[If people could think more in terms of "What does this word mean to you?", the kink world might actually lose 25% of it's drama.

Do You mean W/we should try harder to suss out A/another member's intended meaning when T/they use a lable?  How would W/we do that?  What cues do You think W/we can use?]




Communication.  Labels are merely the first step in learning someone.  When I am speaking with a Dominant, I understand a general sense of how he identifies, but I know nothing more beyond that.  You don't need clues to suss things out.  You need to talk.  Discuss.  Question.  Share opinions.