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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:10:33 PM   
MissIsis


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It is not really so much an objection.  Everyone of us has to live with whatever choices we make.  The op & her man can do whatever they want. 

I have no problem with anyone having more than one partner.  There are plenty of good solid poly relationships around.  If I have any objection at all, it is with the methods that are used to get there.  How many submissives clearly state to a dominant that they have no wish for poly? Or that they are only looking for monogamy?  It seems to be almost a challenge that some dominants will do their best to to change the submissives mind.  How many submissives are told, if you love me, if you care more about my pleasure than your own, if you truely want to serve me, or serve a master, you will learn to happily give what is required? 

In those cases, the submissives stated desires for the life they wanted take a back seat, while she is manipulated into making it easy for her dominant to have more than one sexual partner. 

If a submissive comes into a relationship with an open mind, & a desire for a more open relationship, that is a whole different ballgame in my opinion.  She came into that with her eyes wide open, & looking for that type of relationship. 

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:12:15 PM   
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I have a question. What happens if you find someone for Him that is both His and your ideal sexual/submissive partner? Say for instance... Someone as pretty or prettier then you? Someone as young or younger then you?... Someone as submissive or even more submissive then you? Someone who is as perfect or even more perfect then you? Someone who can move in a take care of His wants and needs right away? Are you at this time and place, entrenched and secure enough in your relationship with Him to handle it if that occurs? I am interested in your answer. :)

CD


with brutal and complete honesty ... because you asked so nicely

If a younger, prettier, sexier, thinner, less opinionated, better trained, more intelligent, more submissive, better in bed, better matched in play, lived in His city and could move in with Him right away arrived from somewhere and expressed an interest in being His ... this is what would happen.

1) I would become hysterical, throw things, stamp my feet, leave the flat, buy chocolate, vodka and malboro lights.
2) I would phone my best friend and tell her to get the fuck over to my flat now ... and bring more vodka.
3) I would smoke half the pack of smokes
4) I pick up the phone, call Dark Victory, and give him my blessing and beg release from service, .. I would have that request denied .. and be told to get my head out of my ass
5) I would go and be violently sick from the emotional stress and smoke the other half of the pack
6) I would get very very drunk and demand my friend went out and found me more vodka.

I am devoted to Sir, devoted to His happiness, and already that is more important to me than my own. I sacrifice my own needs to His already, once causing myself very real emotional pain, but I will do it to make Him happy.

If what you just described came along, I would ensure that I did not stand in the way of His happiness .. right now my first instinct with confronted with Perfect Slave # 1 would be that I was unworthy ..

I know that isn't what Sir would want me to do .. He would want me to be as secure in the face of a perfect slave ... as I would be in the face of some hot girl here for the weekend looking to get her ass beaten ... right now I am not that secure, one day I will be.


WOW!

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:13:46 PM   
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Quick reply:

R tends to find his own women. Though we have similiar tastes and I do point out good looking women to him but he does his own meeting and seeing. He doesn't involve me in it at all. It is his business and his business is not any of my business, so I keep my nose out of it. So while I'd have no issue with finding them he doesn't believe it is my place or my business.

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:15:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

quote:

ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

I have a question. What happens if you find someone for Him that is both His and your ideal sexual/submissive partner? Say for instance... Someone as pretty or prettier then you? Someone as young or younger then you?... Someone as submissive or even more submissive then you? Someone who is as perfect or even more perfect then you? Someone who can move in a take care of His wants and needs right away? Are you at this time and place, entrenched and secure enough in your relationship with Him to handle it if that occurs? I am interested in your answer. :)

CD


with brutal and complete honesty ... because you asked so nicely

If a younger, prettier, sexier, thinner, less opinionated, better trained, more intelligent, more submissive, better in bed, better matched in play, lived in His city and could move in with Him right away arrived from somewhere and expressed an interest in being His ... this is what would happen.

1) I would become hysterical, throw things, stamp my feet, leave the flat, buy chocolate, vodka and malboro lights.
2) I would phone my best friend and tell her to get the fuck over to my flat now ... and bring more vodka.
3) I would smoke half the pack of smokes
4) I pick up the phone, call Dark Victory, and give him my blessing and beg release from service, .. I would have that request denied .. and be told to get my head out of my ass
5) I would go and be violently sick from the emotional stress and smoke the other half of the pack
6) I would get very very drunk and demand my friend went out and found me more vodka.

I am devoted to Sir, devoted to His happiness, and already that is more important to me than my own. I sacrifice my own needs to His already, once causing myself very real emotional pain, but I will do it to make Him happy.

If what you just described came along, I would ensure that I did not stand in the way of His happiness .. right now my first instinct with confronted with Perfect Slave # 1 would be that I was unworthy ..

I know that isn't what Sir would want me to do .. He would want me to be as secure in the face of a perfect slave ... as I would be in the face of some hot girl here for the weekend looking to get her ass beaten ... right now I am not that secure, one day I will be.


Damn IE ate my response. It was...

Honest answer. Thats was what I was looking for. I would be happy to send you the smokes if that happened. But you should smoke Winstons instead. They have less additives and are smoother.

CD

< Message edited by CruelDesires -- 6/17/2008 2:18:06 PM >


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:19:25 PM   
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I'm down with the vodka and all, but the smokes are out of the question.

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:20:00 PM   
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in that situation ... I wouldn't give a flying fuck what I was smoking ....

to be perfectly honest *grins*

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:21:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

I'm down with the vodka and all, but the smokes are out of the question.


it would be part of my cunning plot to get released ... you said if I started smoking again I would be out on my ass faster than I could exhale


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:21:38 PM   
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Hey... nine more posts and I become something other than kinky?

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:21:54 PM   
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I'm starting to think you have an ironing fetish.


LOL.  No, I just keep re-using the same trivial example.

(As a matter of fact, I don't own an iron.  I thought I did, but when a visiting family member asked to use one recently, I discovered that the box with the picture of the iron on it actually contained a hand instead.)

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:23:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

Hey... nine more posts and I become something other than kinky?


I think you get a handcuff .... but just one ... so you will have to think of something for my other arm

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:24:06 PM   
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Been there, done that.  But I did it because I was not able to be with him.  I just found him another who could be there and do for him the things I could not.  Then I moved on.
I really didn't see it as my being especially submissive.  It was practical and a nice thing to do for him.
Procurement for the sake of getting him laid if I was still in the picture is not something I would do.  I am practical and as such I would think of safe sex, the fact that I could not KNOW he was using a condom when with another partner.  The practical self would demand that as protection for me, I then must use protection with him at all times. I don't really view procurement as a true test of my devotion to him.  It is not just about him in my view.  It is about us.
But I am twisted that way.
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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:24:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

I'm down with the vodka and all, but the smokes are out of the question.


it would be part of my cunning plot to get released ... you said if I started smoking again I would be out on my ass faster than I could exhale



If you started smoking again, it'd be crystal clear that you were being a passive aggressive cunt in demand of release.  Normally, if you'd do that flat footed and cold tempered, you'd be out on your ass so fast the bounce would impress basketball players.

However, if you did this in pure reaction to a relationship upset like you describe, I'd need to perform a recto-cranial inversion extraction.

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:26:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

Hey... nine more posts and I become something other than kinky?


I think you get a handcuff .... but just one ... so you will have to think of something for my other arm


Yup!  I finally got my handcuffs back!

charlotte


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:26:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

I'd need to perform a recto-cranial inversion extraction.



you would anally throat fuck me upside down?

whatever it is ... sounds hot ... can we try it anyway?

edited to add ... ahhh I get it ... pulling my head outta my ass
my version was more fun

< Message edited by softness -- 6/17/2008 2:28:03 PM >


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 2:27:34 PM   
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Okay, where to begin? {snip}  Well that was just my long winded opinion on the matter.


I do apologize for the poor paragraphing on my first posting of this. I edited it, and I did try to to change the font and color back, but it wont let me. So again people, I am sorry.



Well done kiddo.  :)

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 3:04:29 PM   
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~~fast reply~~

i have been involved with a few women.  one of those wonderful people happened to be married to a lovely Dominant.  i went to their house to be with her and ended up happily with both of them.  did she procure me? oh, not really, but we were all three delighted with the way things turned out.

i'm not particularly interested in threesomes, or sharing...if it happens it happens.  would i try to find someone for Daddy or for TheEngineer if asked/ordered to?  most likely.  but i'm more certain that they would find someone pleasing to them if they found her themselves.

just my opinion,
kitten

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 3:09:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: softness

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ORIGINAL: DarkVictory

I'd need to perform a recto-cranial inversion extraction.



you would anally throat fuck me upside down?

whatever it is ... sounds hot ... can we try it anyway?

edited to add ... ahhh I get it ... pulling my head outta my ass
my version was more fun


You just made me laugh out loud here at work.


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 3:20:34 PM   
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I find it interesting that people are lumping threesomes and the like with the OP's post.  She is on the other side of the world at the moment, so this is not a threesome situation. And it sounds like she may never meet many of these procurements. Does that change anybody's ideas?

Cali


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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 3:28:12 PM   
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No, I could not nor would I do that. It's just not something that would be good for me.
But I love Softness, and if this is a healthy and happy thing for her, then, I wish both of them the best.
I do worry about what the outcome will be, but, there are no guarantees in life, anyway.

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RE: Procuring - 6/17/2008 3:33:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

I find it interesting that people are lumping threesomes and the like with the OP's post.  She is on the other side of the world at the moment, so this is not a threesome situation. And it sounds like she may never meet many of these procurements. Does that change anybody's ideas?

Cali



Cali .. you are the Queen of incorrect supposition

but far be it from me to ruin your flow *s*

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