meatcleaver
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ORIGINAL: pollux Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to explain how this process of "stealing" is occurring. Please... fill us in. You never really expected an answer, did you? Firm As I pointed out in answer to Alumbrado, Iraq was supposed to have been a walk in the park and the Iraqis were to lay down palm fronds for the liberating Americans to walk on. Meanwhile, the Whitehouse and their cronies with contracts in hand, queue up for the grateful Iraqis to sign away their oil. The fact is nothing went to plan. The majority of Iraqis don't want the Americans there and most believe the Americans are there to steal their oil which has been reinforced by the Whitehouse trying to force the Iraqis to push the privatization bill through parliament and American oil companies queuing up for privileged contracts. While the Iraqi government might have the Americans to thank for their power, most Iraqi MPs don't and don't buy America's pretence at not being interested in their oil. As for the wider stealing and exploitation of resources, you will be telling me next that the British Empire was a benigh institution for the promotion of international trade. Most American historians of note recognize the American empire works on similar lines to how the British empire did. Divide and rule, economic pressure, military intervention where necessary. One of the reasons behind the EU was to face down American demands for privileged trading agreements. Like the unequal trading agreements imposed on Japan in the 19th century by the US and then by other western states. To the US, they were trading agreements (what's up ref?) to the Japanese they were licences for theft and humiliation which started the process of Japanese militarisation to prevent themselves being subjugated by the west. If you can't see the imperialism and the parallel between that and what the US (not only the US) is about now and then, you need to read a little history. If you can't see how American policies and their need for oil (you know, toppling governments or supporting hated ones to have access to oil) create terrorism because of American demands for a 'free market' in oil when the US won't allow its markets to be free, is seen as theft and exploitation, you must be blind. The fact that America doesn't have it all its own way, doesn't mean it isn't succeeding in its exploitation. One of the more credible reasons for the Iraqi invasion was because Saddam wanted to start trading Iraqi oil in Euros which would have domaaged the dollar, though probably not as much as Bush has damaged it.
< Message edited by meatcleaver -- 6/25/2008 1:59:57 AM >
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