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RE: It seems............ - 6/18/2008 10:51:07 PM   
shivermetimbers


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Status: offline 		Not even remotely.  I mean, how many profiles have you buzzed by?  Before you make a declarative statement, make sure you are doing so from the standpoint of a representative sample.  In fact, I believe you will find more domme profiles of women who "know they are domme, but they are new to this, and right now just looking for friends" then you will of the overtly pro dommes. 

I'm also wondering, when doing your searches, if you require a picture to be in the profile?  I'm just surmising, but I think the men and women who do that will tend to focus on the profiles with pics of someone in some form of fetish garb. They tend to stand out more than the numbers actually dictate. That might actually get you to thinking it's more prevalent than it really is.

In the long run, what difference does it make?  If someone can, and does make a living at it, more power to them.  It has no direct bearing on what you seek. 

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RE: It seems............ - 6/18/2008 10:58:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would venture to guess that in a setting where MANY people are willing to pay quite well for a service, a woman who is willing to simply for love of the game (or possibly love of a person if you want to get senimental) probably doesn't have to go through too many hoops to find a LTR.
-R

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 12:56:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DDlover
I asked a simple question and I get bludgeoned for it? I hope I never need real help on here, I won't know who to turn to.



Don't worry DDlover - it happens to everyone, it really does.

Just take a few deep breaths, persevere, and soon as can be you'll find you can sort the wheat from the chaff calmly and easily. (May take a fair few posts to reach that stage mind you!)

And no-one means it personally - they're just words on a screen 

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 12:58:40 AM   
Sundowner


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

I think a lot of people mix up Professional Domme with professional prostitute. They are VERY different things.

And to answer the OP, no.





Different MM, but both huge fun (when they're good at their jobs). Sheesh - if only I were a sub, I'd come running to the other side of the world; keep a place for me will you in case I switch?   

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 1:12:52 AM   
MissMagnolia


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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 1:57:05 AM   
eyesopened


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ORIGINAL: darkpassenger434

I would venture to guess that in a setting where MANY people are willing to pay quite well for a service, a woman who is willing to simply for love of the game (or possibly love of a person if you want to get senimental) probably doesn't have to go through too many hoops to find a LTR.
-R


When i was still very new and really didn't know diddly about BDSM relationships i happened to be chatting with a male submissive who was telling me all about his beloved Mistress.  He had a standing on-line appointment 3 times a week and he sent her $60 every week so that she could get her manicure.  i thought i was doing him a favor to point out that she could be doing the same with 10 or more other guys and make a good living and why was he paying her!  His answer opened my eyes.  He said, "i love knowing that i am in some small way maintaining her as the Goddess she is to me."  Wow.  It's like with me, i sometimes feel i do not give my Master enough for all that He gives to me.  i simply have to accept that my relationship is not one of equity and it doesn't have to be.  i have never again though of a pro-Domme as a bad thing. 

That being said, i have met more female Dominants (in real life, not on a website) who are lifestyle than "pro" and the few "pros" i have met were also lifestyle.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 4:34:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

hell Im going with maybe.

BadOne


Fuckin ditto...having an opinion one way or the other can really cause a shitstorm in this place.


It has nothing to do with having an opinion and a great deal more in how you express it and the information you use to back it up. The original question was "does it SEEM as if there is a greater percentage of Pro's here?"  That is an opinion question. What you did was to state your opinion as if it were FACT and then used a very poor argument to back it up.  No one went out of their way to pick on you.   You made yourself a huge target and said "come and get me".  So we did. Maybe you like humiliation? *shrug*



*picks up the phone and dials.....*

Hello, day old news?  TN would like to cancell her subscription. Yes , she'll be giving her money to behind the times instead. Thanks, have a great day.

*hangs up the phone*

Now, as Ive said, I never claimed to be an officially trained poll taker. I did my own PERSONAL search, in my own PERSONAL way, and posted my own PERSONAL RESULTS. In fact... I even stated that it was My Humble Opinion.

So... it seems that you are out to start some shit with me....If you're feeling up to it I am always open. As far as humiliation......put the meth pipe down and slowly back away..... I have, at no time, felt humiliated by this discussion simply for the fact that I was stating my opinion...which I do believe I am still entitled to do

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 5:33:44 AM   
TNstepsout


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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

hell Im going with maybe.

BadOne


Fuckin ditto...having an opinion one way or the other can really cause a shitstorm in this place.


It has nothing to do with having an opinion and a great deal more in how you express it and the information you use to back it up. The original question was "does it SEEM as if there is a greater percentage of Pro's here?"  That is an opinion question. What you did was to state your opinion as if it were FACT and then used a very poor argument to back it up.  No one went out of their way to pick on you.   You made yourself a huge target and said "come and get me".  So we did. Maybe you like humiliation? *shrug*



*picks up the phone and dials.....*

Hello, day old news?  TN would like to cancell her subscription. Yes , she'll be giving her money to behind the times instead. Thanks, have a great day.

*hangs up the phone*

Now, as Ive said, I never claimed to be an officially trained poll taker. I did my own PERSONAL search, in my own PERSONAL way, and posted my own PERSONAL RESULTS. In fact... I even stated that it was My Humble Opinion.

So... it seems that you are out to start some shit with me....If you're feeling up to it I am always open. As far as humiliation......put the meth pipe down and slowly back away..... I have, at no time, felt humiliated by this discussion simply for the fact that I was stating my opinion...which I do believe I am still entitled to do


Your responses have been an absolutely perfect example of the breadth and variety of argumentative responses. I see you are keeping up with that trend.

1. Be aggressive. State your opinion more loudly or forcefully than everyone else-that often get's them to back down.
2. Exaggerate your arguments to make sure they sound good. Use the words statistics, poll, survey, proven, fact and research a lot.
3. Play the victim. If someone presents a counter argument tell them how mean, vicious, hateful, vindictive, judgemental etc... they are being.
4. Change to a different argument if it starts to go badly. Keep doing this until you wear the other person down.
5. Attack the other people involved by implying or flat out stating that they (and these are the most commonly used) don't have a life, are crazy, use drugs or alcohol, are judgemental, overly sensitive or absurd. Use a belittling, condescending tone peppered with veiled insults.
6. Pretend to be done with the argument and then sneak in later and post again. This can be done in a couple of different ways, sometimes coupled with one or more of the above tactics such as "you people are so mean, I'm leaving and not coming back" or "you people are so absurd and stupid that I'm done".
7. If asked to back up your facts, say that you don't have to, if they want the "facts" they can do their own research, you are far to busy and important to waste your time on such nonsense.
8. Be sure to put IMO or IMHO at the end of everything so you can fall back on that. It makes for wiggle room and a great lead in to other tactics.
9. Confuse and conquer. Remember to switch tactics and arguments often. Mixing several together often has the best result.
10. State that you were just taking the unpopular opinion to be magnanimous. After all, you don't like to follow the herd like everyone else, you prefer to think for yourself. (this is a great triple whammy)

I see that you have not yet used all of the above. Perhaps you are still learning. 


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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 6:49:23 AM   
MaamJay


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Status: offline 		I think part of the problem here is that the original poster was DDlover (from memory of the nick) but Wolfandkitten was the one who jumped in with the dubious statistics. So the OP has been left thinking that some of the vigorous defence was aimed at him but I think it was better aimed at Wolfandkitten. A common problem on boards where fast reply aims at the previous poster instead of the original! Most of us here seem to ignore that, or at least write a post to say "was that aimed at me?" before jumping back!

As to the original question, no, from quite a while here, I don't think there are more pro-Dommes than not. But as I don't know how many Dommes are registered, I don't know how many I would need to survey to reach a 95% confidence interval on My result! I am pretty sure it would have to be more than 20 though! And the search parameters are important ... how random is random? I am much more confident in saying that participants to these forums are predominantly lifestyle Dommes ... because their posts give insight into their lives. So if you want to find a lifestyler ... try reading the forums!

I am a lifestyle Domme ... but being in semi-rural Australia, My gene pool of subs is a bit limited!

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And TN ... really liked that summary of argument methods ... can I keep that for future use?

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 7:03:34 AM   
yngbutnot2yng


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Status: offline 		not really. i mean i am not really experienced at all and i get tons of Subs/Slaves oopputunities to get to know them. I'd say the ratio of guy to girl on here is a little off balance btu i think that if you keep looking you'll find someone.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 7:09:53 AM   
TravWill10


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Status: offline 		Its not that serious. Don't worry about it. Just move on and be patient. All you can do.

Btw...Becoming someones friend never hurt...I constanly am reffered to other girls by friends all the time...connections...kthnk

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 2:25:09 PM   
SailingBum


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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

hell Im going with maybe.

BadOne


Fuckin ditto...having an opinion one way or the other can really cause a shitstorm in this place.


It has nothing to do with having an opinion and a great deal more in how you express it and the information you use to back it up. The original question was "does it SEEM as if there is a greater percentage of Pro's here?"  That is an opinion question. What you did was to state your opinion as if it were FACT and then used a very poor argument to back it up.  No one went out of their way to pick on you.   You made yourself a huge target and said "come and get me".  So we did. Maybe you like humiliation? *shrug*



Classic just fucking classic statement.  I have seen more assine statements in these forums to back up assine theorys over banal topics.  I've said it before initially I came here to discover differing points of view.   Once I got my head right I've stayed for the humor.  FYI my "maybe" comment was meant to be sarcastic not to be taken literally.

BadOne

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 7:22:58 PM   
MissMagnolia


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ORIGINAL: Wolfandkitten

So... it seems that you are out to start some shit with me....If you're feeling up to it I am always open. As far as humiliation......put the meth pipe down and slowly back away..... I have, at no time, felt humiliated by this discussion simply for the fact that I was stating my opinion...which I do believe I am still entitled to do


That entire post pretty well shows your mentality. This wasn't YOUR thread wolf and kitten, yet you happily took over it and started insulting the posters, simply because they disagreed with your view. TN gave her view and did it with class and style. You resorted to slanderous insults about her using drugs and her mental capabilities.

You really should feel humiliated. You have made an absolute idiot of yourself.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 7:43:45 PM   
Lynnxz


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Status: offline 		You stated your opinion Wolf, which is perfectly fine, but did so in a rude and obnoxious way, and now you're accusing people of being meth heads. Awesome.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 8:13:36 PM   
Leatherist


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Status: offline 		Pros are wonderful people dude.
 
I'm getting into making toys. Pros buy toys.
 
Male subs don't buy that many toys-so what the hell good are you?
 
Especially the cheapskates who just want a free wank-off-waste thier valuable time-and then come here and whine about how EVIL they all are when they get told ,"stuff it jerkwad!!!!!!".
 
 Some people's children-really.

< Message edited by Leatherist -- 6/19/2008 8:15:21 PM >

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 8:45:13 PM   
JoePNY707


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Status: offline 		No--far from it. The Domme women I've met on here are the real deal--women who enjoy a certain lifestyle or outlook.

You sound as though you've been burned by some fakes--don't let that color your perception to then think that all women are the same.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 8:50:00 PM   
MzMia


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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

If your point is exclusively lifestyle Dommes are rare and special...well, yes... we are.


There are a lot of professional Dominants here, especially on the other side.
On this side, we don't have a lot of professional Dominants posting.
 
This site is free!
Anyone involved in this lifestyle is able to come here, if they follow the rules and guidelines
of our hosts.
I have noticed that many of the "professional Dominants" are under the age of 35.
I have done some informal polling and I think the numbers are about 50/50.
 
Next, I will take a poll of the "submissive males" that are NOT do me's and let's see
what that number is.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/19/2008 8:50:23 PM   
ExtremeBondage


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Status: offline 		Hello;
I  have been into BD/SM  back when it was called SM/BD,LOL.

For the record, anyone that finds it difficult to meet or achieve a relationship with the desired orientation mite just look in the mirror,  clean up, polish a bit and take a class on manners!

AS for being a pro at this or that  in a SM/BD context because you take pay for goods or services, when was the last time you cashed a !@#$% paycheck sweetheart, anyone that takes money is a whore to someone, grow up get over it and move the @#$%^ on.

No one in this community needs to deal any further with a thread like this, where the hell is the moderator!  To allow this kind of useless dribble to even exist is cause for embarassment.Our existence is on a thread of  acceptability so where is it acceptable to belittle  anyone that has made the choice to stand up and say here I am, in front of the world and make a living doing what they love to do. To offer to put cross hairs on anyone that is open and out front in this community is childish and shows a complete lack of involvement and understanding. The ultra Right is just  begging to do investigations and wire tapping of "prostitution rings", based on less documentation than you show for your thread.

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RE: It seems............ - 6/20/2008 4:28:31 AM   
TNstepsout


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ORIGINAL: ExtremeBondage

Hello;
I  have been into BD/SM  back when it was called SM/BD,LOL.

For the record, anyone that finds it difficult to meet or achieve a relationship with the desired orientation mite just look in the mirror,  clean up, polish a bit and take a class on manners!

AS for being a pro at this or that  in a SM/BD context because you take pay for goods or services, when was the last time you cashed a !@#$% paycheck sweetheart, anyone that takes money is a whore to someone, grow up get over it and move the @#$%^ on.

No one in this community needs to deal any further with a thread like this, where the hell is the moderator!  To allow this kind of useless dribble to even exist is cause for embarassment.Our existence is on a thread of  acceptability so where is it acceptable to belittle  anyone that has made the choice to stand up and say here I am, in front of the world and make a living doing what they love to do. To offer to put cross hairs on anyone that is open and out front in this community is childish and shows a complete lack of involvement and understanding. The ultra Right is just  begging to do investigations and wire tapping of "prostitution rings", based on less documentation than you show for your thread.

The ADASHI



Welcome to the boards. What a way to cut to the chase. Love it!

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