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charlotteS -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 2:07:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth An equal partner, proved by the fact that if she was taken away from the other side of our relationship scale my side would drop like a stone. Sometimes Merc, you just make peeps want to grab you up and hug you like a big ol' soft teddy bear and go "awwwwwwwwwwww". Cali Thanks Cali, stating the obvious and the true has always been a trait of mine. Truth is I only had time to post to one more thread this morning before going to the office today. It was only because of beth's posting that I decided on this one. I assure you if I went to my original choice, the 'Tit slapping' thread, "ol'" and "bear" may have worked, but not "soft". In fact I think they'll be some of this [sm=shake.gif][sm=whip.gif] occurring at our place tonight! However, considering your title "Goddess of Sarcasm" I'm not really sure how should I take your comments?! [sm=dunno.gif] [sm=threadhijack.gif] btw - Is getting that special title that something akin to having personalized license plates - you have to pay a larger registration fee or something? Merc, I think you're the only person who can use an emoticon version of tit-slapping and somehow give me the impression that I have just seen an exact replica of what you two will look like doing it. They totally look like you two! charlotte

Evility -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 2:14:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation Anyway i'm just wondering (and im pretty sure this has been asked before), how on earth do people fund others lives? They manage it because most submissives do not come with invoices.

littlewolfe -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 2:36:45 PM)
this one would want to take care of herself but any gifts that her Owner wishes to give this one would happly take for it would be from care and not because He/She had to repectfully littlewolfe

Mercnbeth -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 2:47:44 PM)
Thanks charlotte, as a matter of fact, I decided it was a good day to leave the office early and 'get to it'! See you next weekend!

charlotteS -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 3:11:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Thanks charlotte, as a matter of fact, I decided it was a good day to leave the office early and 'get to it'! See you next weekend! Looking forward to it! Heheehe...have a good night. I think we're going to be gothing it up tonight with some friends at Das Bunker in LA. It's the only club that isn't specifically BDSM where I've ended up in an orgy of two random girls and one other slave. Should be good times! Hopefully as good as the tit slapping.[;)] charlotte

Griswold -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 7:33:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation Hair cut, colour and style = approx £80 / $157.89 Nail Extensions = £25 / $49.34 Waxing (full body) = £35 / $69.09 Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15 Books = £15 / $29.60 Food = £150 / $296.01 Cigarettes = £35 / $69.09 Total = £640 / $1263.17 Above is what it costs me to keep me for a month approximately. I haven't included rent / mortgage as i don't pay to live where i do. Accomodation is included with my job. I haven't included medical costs as in the Uk we have the national health service, but i know in USA it is privately paid for. I've probably also missed some pretty basic stuff off, but you get the gist. Now if i was to give up my work etc for a Dom / Domme and be totally dependent on him / her it would be on the basis that i still am provided for in the style i provide for myself. I will say at this point that i do not think, im 99% certain that i could never give my career up and be dependent on someone else. Im far too independent for that. Would my provisal be unreasonable? I don't think so but i'm sure there are others here who would disagree. Anyway i'm just wondering (and im pretty sure this has been asked before), how on earth do people fund others lives? If you are extremely rich or well paid i can see it, but what about those in normal every day jobs who aren't so well off? So for those who do it, how do you support yourself and your subs /slaves? Would you do it? If so why? If not why not? Has it ever got you into debt? Are you in debt because of it? Mine: Hair cut, colour and style = 0 Nail Extensions = 0 Waxing (full body) = 0 Clothing / footwear = 50 bucks. Books = 200 bucks (I love books) Food = 250 bucks Cigarettes = 150 bucks Total = 650 bucks (plus $5,612 bucks for mortgage, heat, cable, etc.)

NumberSix -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 7:40:37 PM)
Haircut? Not today.

piopunahele -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 7:48:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation Hair cut, colour and style = approx £80 / $157.89 Nail Extensions = £25 / $49.34 Waxing (full body) = £35 / $69.09 Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15 Books = £15 / $29.60 Food = £150 / $296.01 Cigarettes = £35 / $69.09 Total = £640 / $1263.17 Hair = $60 Nails = $0 Waxing = $0 (I shave) Clothing = $50 Books = $15 Food = $250 (this also includes toiletries and grooming items like razors and nail care) Cigarettes = $50 (I don't smoke much at all, maybe 2 packs a week, and could quit if demanded) Total = $425.00 I work part time and these expenses come out of the pay I receive for that. Surplus money goes to general household expenses (his food, utilities, etc.) and a savings account B set up for me. B pays the mortgage, car note (the car he allows me to drive is paid off), car insurance, entertainment, and so on. As far as I can tell, he breaks even with me. Whether I was here or not, his expenses would remain the same. There would be a slight shift. He would pay utilties and his own food, but his entertainment and car insurance notes would be halved.

goodpet -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 8:05:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15 Generally reasonable for me, maybe higher over the course of a year $600 a MONTH for clothing and shoes?.. I have such a hard time wraping my brain around that much spend on clothing per month.. That's over 7K a year.. wow

KnightofMists -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/20/2008 8:05:09 PM)
you mean it costs to keep a slave? who knew?!

cantilena -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/21/2008 7:33:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: goodpet quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Clothing / footwear = £300 / $592.15 Generally reasonable for me, maybe higher over the course of a year $600 a MONTH for clothing and shoes?.. I have such a hard time wraping my brain around that much spend on clothing per month.. That's over 7K a year.. wow Easily. Like everything else listed, the expense depends entirely on taste, budget, and lifestyle. I won't mention what it costs for my hair care every 5 weeks. When I left my job, I offered to change salons and he told me absolutely not. This is why I made the point that lists with amounts are not really all that relevant. The real issue is much more under the surface, and is actually about the relationship dynamic itself. The rest is dollars and cents... either a few dollars and cents, or major dollas and cents... doesn't really matter which. {{edited for clarity}}

missturbation -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/21/2008 9:44:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists you mean it costs to keep a slave? If they are financially dependent on you yes [:D] who knew?! I thought everyone knew !!

wisteriaV -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/21/2008 12:44:11 PM)
LOL I was high maintainace once too..Master took care of that fast..and we have been together for almost 4 years now..I color my own hair...dont get my nails done...dont smoke anymore, I sew and make most of my own clothing which is manily dresses, I shave waxing is a waste of time for us, I do wear birks but they last forever and I get a new pair maybe every 3 yrs or so depending on if theres a good sale..I love to bargin shop. Went from city to country life..I can and cook from scratch now...and I wouldnt change a thing..I love living simply and I look hot without the froo froo stuff.

LadyShoshin -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/21/2008 1:19:22 PM)
I see no reason why a sub should not continue to work, I am not independantly wealthy. Currently, because my boy make a much higher income than I do, he takes care of the lion's share of expenses. I contribute a set amount per month and when I have extra, I toss it into the household kitty. When I want to go somewhere, I either pay for it, or pay as much as I can. I was in a relationship where I began to feel used as a meal ticket, the final straw was when I became ill and the sub wouldn't step up and bring in some money while I wasn't getting any income at all. Yet they still talked about how "we" should buy this and get that. What they got was shown the door as they were part of the problem and not part of the solution. Should another sub join our household, I will expect them to bring in enough income to pay a fair share toward the upkeep and maintenance of the home and ongoing bills.

IronBear -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/21/2008 6:38:25 PM)
For starters please allow me to state that I have only read the first page. I was doing some currency conversions in to AU$ ahd whilst some items are far more expensive others are much cheeper in both thre UK and IUSA than here (Our average weekly shopping liist costs us here between 40% to n60% more due to the virtual monopoly of both Coles and Woolworths who have forced many smaller stores out of business. That and most of our good products arre snapped up for export leaving us with 2nd grade items or imports which are below our required standards).. However we work on the principle that untill we can completely support a slave/s, they need to be self supporting suffieient to cover a share of the utilities and food. It has been my principle that even with a slave's income, I will take control of his/her spending and give a weekly allowance for treats etc. medical comes under our Public Health System and when we are able to go private we'll take slaves onto that too under employees (there will be an employment agreement for household staff which includes work cover insurance and medical. Gioven my previous income a slave will be full time at home with the excedption of any studies he or she wish to do or if they have a secure job/profession and desire to remain in that possition. Even then most of their income will be saved and they are given an allowance for approved treats. I consider grooming requisits such as nails and hair dressing as part of the essentials and again income allowing I would ber paying for that too.. Neets and I have already wouked out the planning if in the event we have the income to support a slave that she will be financially provided for in the unlikely event I might die before the next millennium.. Slaves are part of my family and it is my responsibility to do my utmost to provide for the family... No big deal just what a Man should do.. Iron Bear (Incorrigible, irrepressible and irreverent) Master of Bruin Cottage (A Victorian Lifestyle poly home) The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it. Omar Khayyam 1048 CE to 1123 CE (Persian Mathematician, Scientist, Astronomer, Philosopher & Poet).

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/22/2008 7:58:35 AM)
I hope you do realise that unless you're shopping good will and bargin bin stores an walmart or k mart type stores, the amount of money originally stated is not unreasonable for clothing. For me, being plus size and having to shop in plus size clothing a skirt would be about 45 dollars, a top about 25 to 30 and pants about 70 bucks, bra's are about 45 dollars, panties are about 6 dollars a piece. If you need much more than one outfit it'll easily total up to huge bucks. LAst time I needed clothing it cost my dad 700 dollarsI was borrowing the money I had none anclothing need was getting serious I didn't go over bored either an get tons of shit, I stuck to basic needs. I hate spending that much, but short of running nude all the time* if it was legal I would* I don't have much choice in how much my clothing costs. Everything else tho I agree, waaaaaaay to muc money. quote: ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain That much money on clothes, etc, would be out of line, if I were paying. Interestingly for me, every submissive I've owned has had a nice job, except one who was rich... and married.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/22/2008 8:20:38 AM)
I do shop the bargain stores and consignment shops and get very good deals. HM also takes me out and buys me real (read new) clothes because He wants to. And yes, slaves are expensive to keep; even when they are bargain shoppers.

nybrat357 -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/22/2008 8:29:47 AM)
I was a stay at home mom in the vanilla world...it was great for my children but after the divorce it was not so great for me. Would I like to be a stay at home sub...yes and no. Yes as it would allow me more time to do the things I care about....no, because no matter how secure the relationship is, a person always needs to have the ability to take care of themselves if need be. I see a relationship as a partnership and whether I work or not it would not change the dynamics of a D/s relationship as far as I am concerned.

hardbodysub -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/22/2008 10:54:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress I am always perplexed at the assumtion the dom needs to support the sub, I have seen one or two relationships where the sub supported the Dom and it did not shift any part of the submission...Now if the Dom is using the sub it is a differnt story, but most people can tell the differnce... sorry miss if i strayed off topic, but I will say i am shocked at the price of nails over there. The price of nails isn't the only thing that's shocking. She needs to find some better places to shop. Or maybe she doesn't do laundry, and just buys new clothes every time she wears them. Interesting about the assumption of the dom supporting the sub. Most of the time it seems to be the opposite in femdom/malesub situations. I don't think either assumption makes sense. What makes most sense to me is that it depends on the couple. The division of labor and finance is best done logically.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Cost of keeping a sub / slave. (6/22/2008 2:36:06 PM)
They cost twice as much as keeping a vanilla. LOL

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