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hissweetbella -> Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:54:03 PM)

I'm posting here because I'm starting to feel like I am the crazy one, and I want to know if I really am off base with my thinking.  This is a long post, so be warned.

My Dom is upset with me because I have chosen to cut off all contact with one of his best "friends" who he introduced me to a couple of years ago and who I was friendly with for a while.  This woman (who my Dom has absolutely NO romantic interest in whatsoever, I am POSITIVE) had been lying to my Dom and the man she was dating at the time for over two years when I met her.  I'm talking a whopper of a lie, too, as in she was telling them she had won a multi-million dollar lawsuit but had excuse after excuse as to why she couldn't access the money that was supposedly in her bank accounts.  These two men supported her financially for over two years, and in a VERY comfortable lifestyle, too, yet never once bothered to verify anything she was telling them, and actually defended her any time anyone dared to say anything about it all being a lie.

To make a long story short, I stayed out of it until my Dom had maxed out his credit cards and was actually having trouble continuing to provide for this woman.  (She didn't live with him.)  Finally, I asked him to please go into the bank branch she claimed the bank lawyer worked at and ask for the bank attorney she claimed to be working with.  I had already found out there was no such person employed by that bank anywhere in the state.  He did, and confronted her.  She admitted it was all a lie, but claimed she felt forced into it because he and her boyfriend kept telling her she should sue for what she claimed had happened to her.  Anyway, she moved in with the boyfriend after promising never to lie to him again and convincing him she felt she had no choice and hadn't wanted to deceive him in the first place and has been living with him for the past year and a half.

Come to find out after a little checking, this woman is a convicted felon for fraud and identity theft and is wanted right this minute because she ran away from the state where she is still supposed to be on parole.  She has been using her sister's name and ID to fly and all kinds of other things.

Now, I believe she is at it all again.  She claims to have a job, data entry working from home, making $22 an hour and with full medical/dental/vision/life insurance benefits, paid holidays... the works... AND, get this, according to her, the employer happens to be a former convict himself and is supposed to be helping her work with the parole board to get out of her parole violation altogether. 

Anyway, my Dom believes her and loaned her a couple of thousand dollars to get out of a tight spot with the understanding that she would pay him back with her next paycheck.  That was two months ago.  She claimed first to have sent the check.  Next was she had done a wire transfer to his account and his bank must have screwed it up.  After that was FedEx lost the check she had sent THREE TIMES.  Now, she had to close her bank account (which was in her sister's name) because her sister was being audited by the IRS and can't get her money from the bank because they won't put that amount on a cashier's check or transfer it to another account for her.

Is it just me or does this stink to high heaven of a SCAM?????  I tell you, I have heard these two men defend her and tell all of us who say she is lying that we are just mean until I am starting to question if I really am!  For a while I was being the friendly ear for this woman that my Dom wanted me to be, but I just can't listen to it anymore.  If I wanted to watch science fiction, I would turn on the TV!

What do you think?  Is her story plausible and am I being too jaded and unbelieving?  I just don't understand what this woman has that makes these men (and others) believe everything she comes up with and not check out anything at all even kowing her history of lying. 

Thank you for reading and responding.  I just needed to get out the frustration of watching someone I care about be fooled like this.




popeye1250 -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:55:55 PM)

I think C.M. should come up with a "Dear Abby" section.




fluffyswitch -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:56:34 PM)

i'm not a lawyer nor do i pretend to be one, but my gut tells me that you did the right thing. i would also see if you could find someone who would give you legal advice about where to go next. something's not right, even if things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:58:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I think C.M. should come up with a "Dear Abby" section.


You know, that would be a really great idea.  :) 




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:58:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I think C.M. should come up with a "Dear Abby" section.


We made one ourselves. Or should say, I appointed someone our Dear Abby

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1693546/mpage_62/tm.htm




mefisto69 -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 1:59:08 PM)

someone needs to drop a few dimes to certain 'authority' figures and then watch the fallout. wha'ts gone is gone and won't be returned. live and learn the hard way




TheHeretic -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:00:16 PM)

       Either I know this person (and she vanished from this area about on track with your timeline), or these kinds of scams that target guys with money and a white knight complex are fairly common.  I'm guessing the latter.

      You should put your D over your knee, and paddle the hell out of him for being so stupid. [;)]




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:01:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i'm not a lawyer nor do i pretend to be one, but my gut tells me that you did the right thing. i would also see if you could find someone who would give you legal advice about where to go next. something's not right, even if things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.


I had thought at one time about reporting her whereabouts to the authorities, but I don't know anything but a city and she almost never leaves her boyfriend's apartment, from what I understand.  She keeps coming up with all sorts of things that her "friends" (who always remain nameless, except for the cryptic referrences to the celebrities she is so close to) supposedly give her.  I can't help but wonder how many of these people have no idea they "spent" money on her.




lalbobbilynn -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:02:46 PM)

Does this woman by chance originate from ummmmmmmmm Nigeria?!!?
BTW ...... IMHO, this smelled so scam-a-luscious in paragraph two i went and got some popcorn!!
b.~




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:03:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      Either I know this person (and she vanished from this area about on track with your timeline), or these kinds of scams that target guys with money and a white knight complex are fairly common.  I'm guessing the latter.

     You should put your D over your knee, and paddle the hell out of him for being so stupid. [;)]


Right state... maybe she is the same person...




KatyLied -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:04:34 PM)

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I just don't understand what this woman has that makes these men (and others) believe everything she comes up with and not check out anything at all even kowing her history of lying.


She's good at scamming.  And as you've discovered, there are dumb people who will fall for it.




fluffyswitch -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:05:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hissweetbella

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i'm not a lawyer nor do i pretend to be one, but my gut tells me that you did the right thing. i would also see if you could find someone who would give you legal advice about where to go next. something's not right, even if things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.


I had thought at one time about reporting her whereabouts to the authorities, but I don't know anything but a city and she almost never leaves her boyfriend's apartment, from what I understand.  She keeps coming up with all sorts of things that her "friends" (who always remain nameless, except for the cryptic referrences to the celebrities she is so close to) supposedly give her.  I can't help but wonder how many of these people have no idea they "spent" money on her.


if you know that she's at teh boyfriends apartment why not just give them that address? or the boyfriend's name and the city name? there has to be some form of papertrail, there almost always is




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:05:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lalbobbilynn

Does this woman by chance originate from ummmmmmmmm Nigeria?!!?
BTW ...... IMHO, this smelled so scam-a-luscious in paragraph two i went and got some popcorn!!
b.~


Nope, not Nigeria.  But I did used to say it was time for my soap opera whenever she called.  The things we sometimes put up with to please those we care for. 




xxblushesxx -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:06:17 PM)

Why would a dom give all that money (and put himself and thus you) in harms way for a woman he doesn't even fancy?

It's all well and good to want to help others out; it's another thing when it affects your bottom line.

In my opinion, a dom should have control over his finances, and what he does with them. Why doesn't he?




KatyLied -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:06:56 PM)

Now maybe you can help your dom pay down his credit debt.  Would you fall for that?




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:08:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: hissweetbella

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i'm not a lawyer nor do i pretend to be one, but my gut tells me that you did the right thing. i would also see if you could find someone who would give you legal advice about where to go next. something's not right, even if things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.


I had thought at one time about reporting her whereabouts to the authorities, but I don't know anything but a city and she almost never leaves her boyfriend's apartment, from what I understand.  She keeps coming up with all sorts of things that her "friends" (who always remain nameless, except for the cryptic referrences to the celebrities she is so close to) supposedly give her.  I can't help but wonder how many of these people have no idea they "spent" money on her.


if you know that she's at teh boyfriends apartment why not just give them that address? or the boyfriend's name and the city name? there has to be some form of papertrail, there almost always is



I just hate to see him get in trouble for harboring a fugitive.  He's a good guy and other than this woman, he works hard, pays his bills, takes care of his own business and doesn't deserve any trouble.  Plus, he truly believes that she is in contact with the parole people and is negotiating a resolution.




fluffyswitch -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:10:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hissweetbella

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: hissweetbella

quote:

ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i'm not a lawyer nor do i pretend to be one, but my gut tells me that you did the right thing. i would also see if you could find someone who would give you legal advice about where to go next. something's not right, even if things aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.


I had thought at one time about reporting her whereabouts to the authorities, but I don't know anything but a city and she almost never leaves her boyfriend's apartment, from what I understand.  She keeps coming up with all sorts of things that her "friends" (who always remain nameless, except for the cryptic referrences to the celebrities she is so close to) supposedly give her.  I can't help but wonder how many of these people have no idea they "spent" money on her.


if you know that she's at teh boyfriends apartment why not just give them that address? or the boyfriend's name and the city name? there has to be some form of papertrail, there almost always is



I just hate to see him get in trouble for harboring a fugitive.  He's a good guy and other than this woman, he works hard, pays his bills, takes care of his own business and doesn't deserve any trouble.  Plus, he truly believes that she is in contact with the parole people and is negotiating a resolution.


i think, and this is were i have to get blunt, i have to ask how many other people have to get scammed though just because he's a good man? if he goes to the authorities and offers help they  may (or may  not, again no legal knowledge here), be willing to work with him. he may not realize how deep it goes.




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:11:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Why would a dom give all that money (and put himself and thus you) in harms way for a woman he doesn't even fancy?

It's all well and good to want to help others out; it's another thing when it affects your bottom line.

In my opinion, a dom should have control over his finances, and what he does with them. Why doesn't he?


I don't live with him and take care of me and mine myself, so his finances really aren't my business.  It was for that reason that I held my tongue so long the first time I realized she was lying.  I just know I won't let things with us progress to anything like living together or depending on him financially while he still feels compelled to "help" people like this.




hissweetbella -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:12:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Now maybe you can help your dom pay down his credit debt.  Would you fall for that?


Not a chance in hell!!




came4U -> RE: Please, tell me I'm not crazy for not believing her. (6/22/2008 2:13:59 PM)

oh boy.

This guy is a dominant, yet he knows this whole story?

damn he is dumb as a bag of rocks.

I'd be embarassed I even were associated with someone that mentally incompetent.




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