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jlf1961 -> RE: These rats are responsible for the torture... (6/30/2008 10:30:04 PM)
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First of all, this was about torture, not 9/11.
Second of all, jet fuel burns at 1796F, steel melts to a liquid at 2750°F. Now that seems to discount steel melting as a possibility, but, it does not.
Steel becomes malleable at between 1700 and 2000 degrees. Ask any blacksmith, you have to get steel red hot to work it. If you want to forge a blade, i.e ax, knife, sword, you have to get the metal white hot.
Now, there is a trick to getting steel that hot... you use forced air to bring the temperature up, in a blacksmith's forge this is done with a bellows.
Now, before you start screaming "but there was no forced air present at the World Trade Center" I am going to explain where that forced air came from.
The forced air that increased the fire temp in both the towers came from two sources. The chimney effect of pulling air up through the building as the fires burned, and the dynamic of how sky scrapers change the air patterns around them.
It is a well known fact the WTC moved with the wind. It was designed to do just that.
However, fires in and of themselves draw more air to them, it is the nature of the best. Stand around a house fire sometime, or even a wildfire, you will experience it first hand.
The engineers that designed the WTC designed the building to handle an impact of an aircraft the size of a DC 9 liner, your basic two engine commuter jet, since that was the type of aircraft that was normally flown in that air space.
The towers were also built to withstand the impact of a DC 9 at landing or approach speed.
They were never intended to withstand the impact of a 757 at high speed intentionally flown into the building.
Now, you probably disbelieve the damage caused to American warships in WW2 by Kamikaze pilots. I mean these were propeller driven aircraft crashing into steel ships with steel armor. Yet, these aircraft crippled and damaged, even sank a number of warships.
These aircraft did not carry large amounts of explosives, about 500 pounds. Yet they were devastating.
There are three types of weapons that would do the damage and cause the structural failure of those towers. And thermite on the steel skeleton of the buildings at ground floor wont do the trick.
Remember the first WTC bombing? The damage then was so extensive the safety of the two towers was in question. More than half the structural supports were blown out from under the middle of the complex. The towers did not collapse then.
Besides, you dont use thermite to cut a building support structure. You use primacord and centrex. Thermite is a very localized reaction, and to get enough together to destroy the world trade center would be rather difficult.
Now, primacord burns at the same rate that it explodes, which is the reason you could wrap a length around someone's arm or leg, pop it and neatly amputate and cauterize the wound at the same time. Add centrex plastic explosives to that, any you will easily take out the CONCRETE encased steel supporting columns. Thermite will not do this.
You see, builders and designers are a bit of a daffy bunch. Steel columns just look ugly. So they encase the steel in a 24x24 concrete column, which not only makes them stronger, but has the added effect of increasing fire protection. Once past the main floor, the steel is hidden behind these things called walls, and covered with a spray on fire RETARDANT, not a fire proofing.
In other words, you can use all the thermite you want in the sub basement and you are going to scorch the concrete and poison the air around you, but do little else. And if a truck bomb weighing in at 4000 pounds didnt bring the building down the first time, what makes you think they are gonna be able to do that a second time.
Furthermore, a controlled demolition keeps everything inside the footprint of the building, this was not the case with the WTC, you can slow down the footage of the collapse and see quite clearly the outer walls being pushed outward, a prime example of a pancake collapse.
Now, I have a few other little secrets to share with you...
There was no UFO at Roswell NM, Hanger 13 at Wright Patterson Air Force base is not used to house alien technology, or I should say, not used to house extraterrestrial technology. Area 51 at groom lake nv is the home to the lockheed skunk works, nothing more and nothing less, and if there are aliens watching us, they have long since given up on the possibility of intelligent life on this rock.
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