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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/8/2005 6:44:17 PM

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Yes,the collar which i "normaly" wear is just a symbol...everyone in the club knows where i stand...or rather kneel....The club is a swingers club which has a fetish night and a dungon which is always open...but Master has to be professional and so do i....not everyone in the swinging lifestyle goes for the bdsm part.The collar which master put on my neck is a symbol to me as well as others...lol but if undressed or in a skirt or dress(which i normaly am in at the club) u see the tattooed collar on my ankle...which is perm and will never come off....its just as much a symbol as the physical collar.....but again as Master said...Collars are anouther topic :)

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/8/2005 8:44:15 PM

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[I've had a quite a few instances where someone got in my face and wouldn't accept no. I think in someways that is harder than the net. On the net, I can just block or ignore them. At a club, I'm forced to deal with them for the whole night and in some cases more than one night.

Isn't the club management any help? Most of the places I've played, a word to them and the guy is lucky just to get a warning.

[laugh] and at Hellfire, he'd have to deal with Lenny!

The owner of the club is a close personal friend of ours. I really try to leave him out of it as much as possible unless it's absolutely necessary. I did this because I'm afraid that his friendship with me would color the situation. In two of the situations, he had someone else handle the "Dom" and in the the third, I personally handled it.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/8/2005 8:57:53 PM

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I usually let the security staff handle the problem..im there to listen to the members and what their wants are and dislikes....I only step in if the person involved has become a bit tough to handle

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 3:35:56 AM

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Exactly,bella,it isnt about a collar its about

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I am curious though about what everyone elses think about going to a public/members playing area and how you think you would react or have reacted.

So,where do your masters principles lie?How far is he willing to conform and what is the line you won't cross?Does he stand by his belief,or simply follow others wishes because its easier and safer.How he reacts or has reacted is the intgeral part of the question.Can he answer his own question?After all,protocol that is self imposed seems to be a big thing for him and yourself on other threads.Now,because you have to conform to anothers set of rules,is this why you are so hung up on everyone else conforming?Think about it.You have a set form in your head that you follow.You cannot understand why others do not follow it when you can give into it so easily.Its all very relative.
Just because a sub doesnt want to be conform to a dominants ideals then it doesn't mean they are bratty or less of a sub or slave.Its relative to who OWNS them, and the dominants protocols.If unowned,then no one has rights or is the facilitator than the suu or slave themself.Because BDSM is unique and about freedoms be be what you are and not what others would stick on you.You can be professional and still hold what you believe high without having to conform to a set of principles that aren't your own.Its each single difference that makes BDSM what it is,not protocols unless protocols play an integral part of your relationship.But you can't force those protocols on others unless they want them.Thats what people have been trying to explain over and over.It's not all about your master and you,its about individuals and the relationships they have,and like people,they're all different.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 3:42:38 AM

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'Passion is contained within us.It waits, It stirs,undemanded.It Whispers.ItShouts.ItGuides.Passion reigns over us all and we obey.It is the essence of our finest moments.The rapture of Love, the clarity of Malignity, the paroxysm of Grief...Without passion,we may have peace but inturn we would be hollow - vacant and void.

Sidetracking the thread for a moment: I love this quote in your signature line Demon. M

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 3:50:13 AM

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Sidetrack away.It wouldn't be a CM thread if it didnt get sidetracked.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 4:09:46 AM

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Clubs and groups are helpful,but not a prerequisite to a personal BDSM relationship.You will find they help,and its all part of the learning experience.If your in a non BDSM relationship,you go out and socialise as a couple.BDSM relationships are no different.You can find a new toy,talk to people and at some groups,participate if thats your boat.Some are just like clubs,some are like going to the theatre.Above everything,its social.But dont discount going.Its good to keep an open mind on all things,especially as its the dominants decision if you go or not once your in a commited coupling.

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Hello Sir. Yes, i agree, attendance at a club, etc., would be the Dom's decision. i simply would not become involved with a Man who needed this on a regular basis -- and i would never play. That would be a huge limit for me. i do realise that, in time, limits can change, but as of now i cannot imagine playing in a club.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 6:49:42 AM

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Hello Sir. Yes, i agree, attendance at a club, etc., would be the Dom's decision. i simply would not become involved with a Man who needed this on a regular basis -- and i would never play. That would be a huge limit for me. i do realise that, in time, limits can change, but as of now i cannot imagine playing in a club.

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Hello pink.

I think you have gained the impression that all clubs play. They don't. Some clubs have back rooms/dungeons... some have open play almost like a show - and then there are the private parties. But there are groups and munches where play isn't even an option, they are social meets, just like meeting friends down the pub. Social interaction on any scale is vital be it BDSM or church or knitting. It's fun, it gets ideas floating around and it makes abuse more noticable. Don't be poisoned by the falicy that meets are all sex and chocolate, they aren't. There are people who attend who just want to make aquaintance with likeminded people - not make demands of people... and its not all rubber and PVC....

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 7:43:43 AM

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I have to agree with you darkangel,

Thats why here we have the first floor dedicated as a bar and dance floor for social interaction. It seems to be a bit more comfortable for people to meet there for drinks and if they arent interested in each other there is plenty of room to wander about and meet others without being stuck at a table with those that you feel uncomfortable with. It isnt a prerequisite to play either candystripper.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 7:49:23 AM

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Hello pink.

I think you have gained the impression that all clubs play. They don't. Some clubs have back rooms/dungeons... some have open play almost like a show - and then there are the private parties. But there are groups and munches where play isn't even an option, they are social meets, just like meeting friends down the pub. Social interaction on any scale is vital be it BDSM or church or knitting. It's fun, it gets ideas floating around and it makes abuse more noticable. Don't be poisoned by the falicy that meets are all sex and chocolate, they aren't. There are people who attend who just want to make aquaintance with likeminded people - not make demands of people... and its not all rubber and PVC....

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da, i have some local BDSM people i found here who might agree to accompany me to a group called "Ohio SMART". However, in addition to trying to find a companion, the group is terrible about responding to requests for information about their meetings. It may only be possible to get the information from a current member, as they do not seem to answer emails or phone messages.

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RE: Why or Why Not - 11/9/2005 11:01:06 AM

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I feel like I am hijacking Six's thread, so I will contact you off forum about the munch pink. I can try and work something out if you need help contacting them.

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