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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/6/2008 11:20:48 PM   
MstrssScarlet


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Status: offline 		My male submissive is what most people would consider a brat.  He absolutely LOVES pushing my buttons.  It's all in fun through and he knows that he's going to pay dearly for everything he does.  He defenitely has a mind of his own and I like that.  I happen to enjoy our relationship....it's kinda like an ongoing game.  Trust me though...when it's important, he's as submissive as he can possibly be.  He would do absolutely anything for me and I know that.  If he were a weak willed sub that gave into everthing I demanded with no question I think I would find it rather boring.  That's just me though.
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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/6/2008 11:28:12 PM   
MstrssScarlet


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

This is part of the reason Dommes date Doms.  It's exciting to find out who's going to bottom.


This was TOO funny!  I happen to be married to another Dom.  I'm not telling who bottoms to who.  roflmao  shhhh!  It's a secret! 

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 12:03:42 AM   
DelilahDeb


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Status: offline 		OP…not this domina. I'm quoting some other dom's telling signature line here: "If you break your toys, you can't play with them again." I'm not interested in taming anyone, or breaking anyone. Whether it's a lover, a play partner, a sub, a horse, or a dog…friends first.

Otherwise, why bother? Kink is consensual. The same actions outside of consent are criminal.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 12:45:16 AM   
SaraZeal


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Status: offline 		I question some people's definition of weak-willed. I give myself willingly. My submission is won with respect and trust. I trust rather easily, but my respect is hard-earned. I stand up for a lot of things I believe in, including fighting injustice wherever I see it. I have a strong will, but small means (I'm not famous, not rich, not employed though I got extraneous circumstances for the latter).

I'm not interested in having a career as much as I am in changing the world, a little at a time.

I can have interesting discussions, and definitely hold my own in arguing. I won't give up my point just to please someone (I might if it would spark a conflict I don't want to be in). However, there is no question that I give myself entirely to the one who owns me.

I have limits, and there's stuff I might not do (I'm not masochist for one), but all in all, I expect the one who owns me to know what they're doing, trust them to respect me as well as I respect them (though maybe in a different way), trust them not to willfully hurt me, and this may be more specific to me; I expect them to love and care for me the same I would love them (romantically as well, if that's not clear).

"The meek will inherit the Earth" sure I read that somewhere, don't really like the book, but that saying I like. Being meek doesn't mean to me that I bow down to everyone

Meek:
adj., meek·er, meek·est.
  1. Showing patience and humility; gentle.
  2. Easily imposed on; submissive.
How is that a negative trait?


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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 1:08:51 AM   
HardToTame


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ORIGINAL: LuvnFemAuthority

To me, there's a difference between a submissive and a wimp.  I characterize a wimp as a man that can't stand up for himself in real life.  This type of guy is only submissive because he is generally weak-willed.  To me this does not make his submission a strength but rather a weakness... ie. he is incapable to handle his life without someone to run it for him.  Perhaps some women are ok with this, most I would imagine are not.

I want a fully functional mate with a successful career behind him.  He submits to me out of love and respect for who I am (not just any random woman).  His submission is then a strength.  He has the balls to relinquish control to serve the one he loves with his entire being.

Sigh....  golden needle in the agri-corp haystack, I'm afraid.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive? 

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?








Thats EXACTLY what I mean.   Yours and Aakasha's comments have been straight on the ball of what I'm trying to get across.  To me, alot of this all comes across as, pathetic.  Like, I see alot of subs as the wimps you mentioned who can't run their own lives and it makes me sick, the kind of guys who, are just, nerdy social freaks in real life who can't get laid.

Aakasha, it was dealing with girls with your mentality that got me into this.  I used to have dominant women try to dominate me via seducing me, because, they saw that I was someone who took no shit.  I didn't take orders, to a large extent I still don't, and so for them, the whole fun of it was to be that sexy seductive woman who can lure a man to do their will.   I bet you right now you can tell what I'm thinking right  (I'm sorry I'll take my mind out of the gutter now)


But all this talk about breaking, I think I used the wrong words.  (Forgive me, I don't know all the lingo yet) I've dealt with broken spirited people also and they bore the shit out of me.  They frustrate me to the point where, it makes me angry and I want to put them out of their misery.   Of course theres a line of conscent and well, rape I guess.  I've had those kind of women ALMOST rape me.  Date rape drugs, the works, and I bless my stars that I all these years of having so much control over my life, enabled me to control that situation so that I wasn't raped.

I think that quality of seduction is something alot of dommes lack.  

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 4:19:40 AM   
MsValentine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive?



I am always extremely happy that my sub is so submissive. It is what I look for and desire in a man. I am turned on mentally and physically by having a sub who is almost always well behaved and acquiescent. Obviously, he is human and makes little errors on occasion but is never intentionally disrespectful.


quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?



In my relationship, paul and I communicate well and so it is really quite unlikely that he would need to 'stand up and say no' about any of my wishes. We may well disagree on something but I have always insisted disagreements are aired in a polite, calm way. I am also quite a reasonable person so the instructions and rules I have for paul are not too onerous. I have said before a whispered warning if he ever does talk out of line in public is enough for him to just accept my authority and resume the correct submissive attitude.


quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?



I have never been keen on the idea of 'breaking in' a fellow human being. It is hard enough with a horse. People shouldn't need breaking in. Humans have superior intelligence and can communicate with each other and so can be asked to do something and then if they do resist or find it hard to understand, told again and finally punished in a rational and fair way if all else fails. This is not 'breaking in' or even 'training' necessarily but simply adjustment to the Dominants will. The sub should want to be obedient, pleasing and so it shouldn't have to be a drama.

Some like a more confrontational style of working with their sub/slave and that is fine for them. However, I always think that strong as I am, I am no match for most men in physical strength so if it came to a physical struggle I would lose. I don't start battles I know I will lose. I am strong mentally and see that as more important. I guess that is why I prefer calm, rational ways of dealing with a sub and if he wants battles, he would have to find another Mistress. Petty disobedience and brattiness bring me as close to losing my temper as I am likely to get and even that makes me feel uncomfortable.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 5:03:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Seriously though....(while the above statement is true, I digress).  I was really disillusioned the first time I "discovered" submissive men after years of dominating vanilla boyfriends.  I was kind of excited to find a whole 'community' of men who actually wanted to be dominated.  Then I found that most were either pushy or demanding - or, the opposite - kind of meager, meek, pathetic, groveling saps.  YIKES! 


Well, if it's any consolation, i think it was an equally great disappointment to discover that there was a community of Women who were interested in being the Dominant partner in a relationship, and they still didn't want a man who was naturally passive and yielding!

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and a lot of whining from submissive men stating "why on earth would a good femdom get wasted on vanilla men?"


Who would do such a thing?

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 5:28:48 AM   
ShiftedJewel


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Theres needs to be something very genuine.  I can't tolerate dominant people who are hard on the outside but, sugar coated inside.


I'm the opposite, I'm all sugar coated on the outside and hard on the inside... kinda like a peanut m&m, break through the shell and I'm sweet as sugar but nuts at the core. lmao
 
And yes, sometimes (most of the time anyway) I wish some weren't so damn submissive. I like opinions, I like ideas, I like a good conversation and even a good debate! If I'm on the verge of really screwing up I want someone with the intestinal fortitude to tell me! You know? The old "Hey!!!! Don't stick that fork in the wall socket you dumb ass!!!!" thing. Ok, granted, not something I would consider doing, but you get the idea. Stand up and say no huh? If it's something they feel strongly about then hell yes, honestly, I'm not a mind reader and how else am I gonna know?
 
But breaking someone? I'm thinking that was just a bad choice of words. I think the answer you are looking for would be to the question do any of them like the "challenge" of a sub/slave that has to be earned, won over, tamed even. And yes, some of us do. I like to know that the trust someone has in me is because I worked to earn it, that the loyalty they feel toward me is deserved and the commitment we share is just that... shared. Otherwise what's the point? Where is the power exchange if there was never any "power" to exchange? How can you give me authority over something that you never had to begin with?
 
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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 5:40:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive? 

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?

There are plenty who love the challenge of breaking a sub. However once they are collared and owned, thats a little late to decide you want them to have more of a backbone than they had when you started.
Both my boys have no problem saying no, when it is warranted. I am not breaking them, I do however like the idea that they are not mindless automatons who accept what I say as fact because I am Dominant.

To each their own.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 5:43:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have zero interest in anyone who needs to be "broken". As said by other posters, submission isn't about being weak willed and ready to do anything that a dominant tells a sub to do.

OP, I think you also need to look at the terminology used. Yes, I know mileage varies for every term and every person, but to ME you are a bedroom bottom, rather than a sub. You like to be controlled sexually, but not in any other way. You're profile is extremely aggressive and I wonder how many women would be attracted to that?

Bratty and cheeky behaviour is one thing, but out and out aggression towards people you don't even know is not attractive or even necessary.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 7:54:45 AM   
LuvnFemAuthority


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Status: offline 		I think you missed my point somewhat.  First of all, you're a girl.  I don't know what Dom/mes that are interested in when it comes to a female submissives.  I, personally, want a *male* only.  I am speaking about what I desire in that male.  If others happen to concur on this, it's not my problem or my fault.  You need to either take it up with them or fix yourself.

Second,  weak-willed and willing were never the same thing.  It's one thing if you submit after trust is built and another if you are ready for abuse on a first date, first chat, first whatever.  Lots of males contact me starting the conversation about their fetishes, immediately take an unnecessary level of submissive tone, and in general don't seem to care very much who is in charge only that someone is willing to.  Many have a very Pygmalion fantasy of what a Domme is and does and expect me to live of to this persona.  This is not the same as willingly submitting to someone that earned and deserves your submission.... earning is what I *want* to do.

Third, I don't find someone without a career appealing.  That is my preference.  I busted my ass to get where I am and I want similar drive in my partner.  A job doesn't make you rich or famous necessarily.  It makes you functional, capable, and speaks highly of your character.  I also will not make wads of cash.  If someone does not choose me because my field isn't a high paycheck producer I'm not going to whine about it.  I'm going, instead, to find someone that appreciates my human rights work and feels that the contribution to the world is worth more than our immediate bank account, at least from my side.  But no sub should be expecting a free ride.  Nor any Dom/me for that matter.

So to recap: Meek and well adjusted, fine. Loser looking to freeload by throwing him/herself at a dominant hoping s/he will take care of them financially, eww get away you leech!

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ORIGINAL: SaraZeal

I question some people's definition of weak-willed. I give myself willingly. My submission is won with respect and trust. I trust rather easily, but my respect is hard-earned. I stand up for a lot of things I believe in, including fighting injustice wherever I see it. I have a strong will, but small means (I'm not famous, not rich, not employed though I got extraneous circumstances for the latter).

I'm not interested in having a career as much as I am in changing the world, a little at a time.

I can have interesting discussions, and definitely hold my own in arguing. I won't give up my point just to please someone (I might if it would spark a conflict I don't want to be in). However, there is no question that I give myself entirely to the one who owns me.

I have limits, and there's stuff I might not do (I'm not masochist for one), but all in all, I expect the one who owns me to know what they're doing, trust them to respect me as well as I respect them (though maybe in a different way), trust them not to willfully hurt me, and this may be more specific to me; I expect them to love and care for me the same I would love them (romantically as well, if that's not clear).

"The meek will inherit the Earth" sure I read that somewhere, don't really like the book, but that saying I like. Being meek doesn't mean to me that I bow down to everyone

Meek:
adj., meek·er, meek·est.
  1. Showing patience and humility; gentle.
  2. Easily imposed on; submissive.
How is that a negative trait?



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 8:08:16 AM   
Isabelah


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Status: offline 		I think it all comes down to what the dominant wants.  I am sure there is a dominant woman who gets off on a man who defys her, but I am not one of them.

Personally, I do not care for sissies it is not my style although I don't mind a man who enjoys having smooth and soft skin, but overall I seek a sub/slave who is a man. I don't care for bratting nor would I want a slave/sub to be argumentatitive with me. I do expect him to think and at times have stimulating and intelligent conversation. I also know that we are humans and are infalliable and sometimes we forget our place. But someone to purposely challenges me at every turn- I think it would be time for a discussion or for me to release the slave/sub.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 8:38:39 AM   
Dari


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Status: offline 		In the initial stages of a relationship (any relationship for me, not only that of potential D/s ones) there is a weighing and measuring.  At some point, we figure out how our power levels go - are we both dominant?  If so, do we have enough mutual respect and things in common that we will continue to be friends?  Or do we have nothing in common other than dominance, and we are acquaintances but not really close, with a mutual respect for each other's realms?

In the case of someone who is submissive to me - I don't mind some fights for submission early on.  If that's a need that the sub has, to know if I am strong enough (physically, mentally, or emotionally) to be dominant - that's okay.  Rather like fighting for alpha position in a pack.  No worries to me, I don't really have problems with that.  Once we've established that I'm dominant enough however - I don't like continued fighting.  Constant challenges to my authority are boring and get old quickly.  They're rarely interesting or fun after the first month or so.

Either submit, or don't.  That's the choice, and there is no rancor there on my part - but it's a choice.  Once you've chosen to submit, stick to it.  I don't like men who have to constantly be reassured that I'm dominant enough, and that yes, I'm still the boss.  I'd rather spend that time having stimulating conversation, doing things together, and having fun.  Building a relationship, rather than continuing to pour a foundation.

I don't like breaking people.  I don't mind training a man to please me though.  And I like men who are willing to speak their mind - even submissive men.  Strong, intelligent, submissive men are such a turn-on.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 9:02:38 AM   
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I think you missed my point somewhat.  First of all, you're a girl.  I don't know what Dom/mes that are interested in when it comes to a female submissives.  I, personally, want a *male* only.  I am speaking about what I desire in that male.  If others happen to concur on this, it's not my problem or my fault.  You need to either take it up with them or fix yourself.


Really I was replying in more general terms as a sub. Maybe male subs differ in their philosophy or way of seeing things. I'm mostly after Doms than Dommes (and get a lot more messages from the former than the latter), but I thought the domination dynamic, while different, was similar.

Maybe it has to do how male subs run counter to expectation stereotypes (of being dominant, very assertive, aggressive etc) and want more acceptance? I don't know, given the ratio of fem subs to male Doms and of male subs to fem Doms, they need to prove themselves more (just like in the dating scene I guess).

I heard numbers thrown about before, if there are 25% female versus 75% male members. And off the female ones, 65% are submissive, while off the male ones 40% are submissive - that makes a total of about 16.25% fem subs and 30.00% male subs. Can't say I know the ratio the other way around, but consider 35% of non-sub females, it would be 8.75% at most, versus 45.00% of non-sub males. So you end up with a shortage of femsubs to maleDoms, and an overabundance of malesubs to femDommes.

Some male subs might think 'proving themselves' is being the best fantasy of a sub possible. Given their number, it's easy to become ignored.

Oh and yeah, it's not exactly expected nowadays (in part thanks to feminism) for women to work, or to stay-at-home, they can usually pick depending on what they prefer or can do. I could stay-at-home, childless, and that be okay with many men. While the reverse is rare (that a man could do that).

I do want some sort of work, but I'm not sure how it will end up, seeing as I've yet to be formed in it. I personally prefer work doable from home (that doesn't mean housework, that means house office). What I'm the least sure about, is what I'd want as a career (cause that's just a job, really). If anything, being already-at-home, would make housework doable on top of that job (I plan it being by contract, not a 40 hours a week deal). I wonder how things will turn out. Just thinking aloud some, sorry for the tangent.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/7/2008 12:07:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive?



I'm not too sure I'd see a situation where this is happening. I sometimes wonder whether a few people get misled by the 'alternative lifestyles' label and think that a relationship between Domme and sub is a different type of vanilla or normal relationship. In my experience and from what I know of others I'd say a successful relationship between Domme and sub goes way beyond any sort of vanilla relationship. It's a relationship which is pretty much sacred, and I take it here submission means the submission of self at will for the benefit of the other person, i.e. the Domme. The two all important phrases from my perspective are 'submission of self' and 'at will'.

I've never been a slave per se, but I've done formal domestic service (non-BDSM) and BDSM as a submissive, but I don't think it makes much of a difference, in that 24/7/365 total and complete submission is an illusion and probably impossible to achieve. You see to work out whether someone is genuinely submissive or indeed submissive in the manner you want you either need to be a very good judge of character or to stay around someone long enough to get to know them and get to know what makes them tick. I also don't believe in instant submission, because to be able to submit to someone you also have to know them and understand their way of thinking. Part of the submission at will is actually being able to relate to things and see things pretty much the way your Domme sees things, and then there could be times when you're acting on her behalf, and so would be expected to communicate with as much authority as she would if she were there in person. But it really is all down to 'submission at will', her will, when she wants, as she wants, no ifs, no buts, no excuses and no questions.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?



No to what? No to her will? Try it, see where it gets you. Unless she's been dominant and aware of this right through I'd think you find most Dommes discover their need to be dominant and the fact that they need a submissive partner the hard way, i.e. through a failed relationship or a series of them. Am I saying that you should never stand up and be brave enough to say no? No, I'm not. A Domme is a woman is a human being, imperfect, and there's things she might not understand, fail to notice, get wrong or make a mistake and this is where I feel you can use a veto or cause her to stop and think. Being submissive doesn't necessarily mean a sacrifice of who you are as a person or your character. At the appropriate time and for the appropriate reason then I'd hazard a guess that most Dommes appreciate a challenge or taking a stand, just so long as it isn't confrontational. There's a thin line between bravery and foolishness.

quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?



If you're being 'submissive at will' then how can you be refusing to give in? The thing is there's positive challenges and negative ones, and the negative ones tend to be also referred to as confrontations. If you're claiming to be submissive but feel the need to be broken then either you're not a submissive or you're not in any sort of headspace to be able to take on the responsibility of being in a relationship. Breaking someone, in the way I'm assuming the OP means, carries a major risk of doing irreparable emotional or psychological harm and having a major impact on someone's life. You only have to think about a woman being raped to be able to have some concept of the potential damage and the grave risk involved. Would you be prepared to take that risk? I wouldn't. I feel the same could be said for almost any Domme you come across.

Just my 1p (sorry I'm out of change at the moment).


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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 1:42:42 AM   
HardToTame


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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

I have zero interest in anyone who needs to be "broken". As said by other posters, submission isn't about being weak willed and ready to do anything that a dominant tells a sub to do.

OP, I think you also need to look at the terminology used. Yes, I know mileage varies for every term and every person, but to ME you are a bedroom bottom, rather than a sub. You like to be controlled sexually, but not in any other way. You're profile is extremely aggressive and I wonder how many women would be attracted to that?

Bratty and cheeky behaviour is one thing, but out and out aggression towards people you don't even know is not attractive or even necessary.


I've always openly admitted to being a bedroom bottom, but, really.  This forum has so many labels for everything its just ridiculous.   I don't particularly care what the label is. Bedroom Bottom, Submissive, Slave, Pussy-Whipped-Rent-Boy, it's all the same to me.  The title here doesn't matter.  If it does, your focussing on the bondage box as opposed to outside of it where the rest of Vanilla-Land stands.

My profile doesn't NEED to attract anyone, at all.  I don't want to find a domme off this site to serve and to sex until whip break thy heart.  I'm simply here because deep down, I'm a kinky little shit, who has deep dark desires.  I simply wanted to find people with those same dark desires.  Not to live them out with those people, merely to discuss them to alleviate some of the stress of constantly keeping them hidden.

Why do I have to be agressive to strangers?  Well, have you seen how this forum reacts to anyone with a different opinion? I'm an agressive guy.  Not a violent one, but I'm a very shallow, very un-caring, chauvanistic, old fashioned guy.  I don't buy into half of the political correctness of this site, I don't judge a jacket by it's label.  I work hard, I play hard, I fuck hard.  I don't even know whats written on my profile, it's really not an issue for me.  So,  if my profile is a reflection of me as a person in reality, then, I'd keep it exactly as it is because, the reality of the types of woman I attract would probably make you run away with your tail between your legs.  It's something I'm proud of because, any girl dumb enough to be attracted to me, must be an outstanding woman.  Simply because I'm, well, a hand ful.  Therefor any woman whose up for the challenge, has to be exceptional.   So in answer to your question. 


It attracts EXCEPTIONAL woman.  Woman, who are a cut above the rest.  You might not find my profile attractive because I'm bratty and agressive, but, you don't need to.  Thats not to say your not an exceptional person, just that I don't need your attention. 

I just don't understand how, some guys can let woman walk all over them.  (Metaphotically speaking.  ....  And the first person to respond to that running their fingers about trample fetishes and so forth, would most likely be precisely the kind of person I'm refering to in this thread, though, not limited to.)

I'm a male chauvanistic pig who likes fiesty woman.  For me, there is no question about dignity in this.  What you do in the bedroom is your business.  Your fantasies are yours.  But theres a line, that lines called reality.   I just can't wrap my head around some guys reasoning and excuses as to why they're such pathetic specimens. 

As I said, if you judge a profile as a portrayal of someone in reality, then, alot of these people in reality would just be losers.  And when I think of that, and see them come here wondering why they cant find anyone to serve as a slave, it makes sense. 
I thought, if a woman wanted a man to serve her, then she'd probably want a RESPECTABLE man to serve her.  Anyone can push around a loser.  .. Even another loser. 

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 1:52:27 AM   
bashfulhuck


Posts: 119
Joined: 5/26/2008
Status: offline 		I will start by saying that my Owner would not have me anyother way than what I am now. I am a strong, loving, secure slave to her. I am not afraid to voice my opinion to her, and we have an agreement that if she were to be doing something that would truly endanger either of us, I am allowed to stand my ground to prevent it. It is my duty to protect my Owner, and she has let me know that it's ok even if it's protecting her against herself.
I can also be a bit bratty and strong willed in our scene play, which she loves..She get's a charge out of working that out of me, turning me into a big, tired pet.
In life though, it is very understood that while I am allowed an opinion so long as I express it with respect, the final decision is hers and hers alone, it is not a democracy.
I would love to have a takedown scene done on me eventually. It's not exactly something that will be easy to arrange, because she would need to get help with it, likely alot of help with it. And most of the males at the club we play at frankly would not be capable to taking me down, it would simply take at least 3 to succeed (not me bragging, just a reality).
Having a submissive that needs to be broken though just sounds strange to me. My Owner one day asked me if I would submit to her, and I told her yes I would easily do so. Not long after that she tested those words with me, and our relationship drastically changed from one of friendship to one of M/s rather rapidly. She didn't need to break me, there is no struggle in my slavery. I might get out of line occasionally, but she's very good at identifying what is causing that, and dealing with it right away.



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 1:57:22 AM   
HardToTame


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There it is kids.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 2:04:20 AM   
Nikolette


Posts: 488
Joined: 10/2/2004
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive? 

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?


Its more like, do I wish the they were brave enough to say Yes. ... Yes to it all. Yes to their fears, yes to their desires. Yes to me, yes to their heart. Dive all in.

Do I wish they weren't so submissive? Sometimes. Sometimes I want them to speak up more for themselves in the company of others, or that they were daring enough to really dig down deep and give me a peice of their mind when I'm asking them about deeper issues, rather than me having to dig for it myself.

Its all subjective. You'll hear that a lot: we'll all do different things. Different strokes for different folks.



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 3:11:15 AM   
MissIsis


Posts: 473
Joined: 1/1/2005
Status: offline 		I like my submissives to have a backbone, but I don't enjoy, nor do I expect them to continually challenge me by refusing to do what I ask of them.  I am a reasonable person, & expect obedience.  I enjoy submissives who are spirited. 

I would like to know they are brave enough to stand up to others when it was warranted, & to stand up for me.   If a submissive continually says no to me, there would be something wrong that would either need to get fixed, or it would signal we are no longer a good match.  

I do not enjoy the challenge of breaking someone.  I enjoy a spirited happy submissive.  If they won't give in, to reasonable demands, I would assume they have no desire to submit. 

I tend to enjoy strong submissives who enjoy submitting to me. 

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