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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/8/2008 4:09:10 AM   
Dari


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I would like to know they are brave enough to stand up to others when it was warranted, & to stand up for me.   If a submissive continually says no to me, there would be something wrong that would either need to get fixed, or it would signal we are no longer a good match.  


Agree, 100%.  Well said.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/9/2008 1:33:12 AM   
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Subs should be allowed to carry pepper spray

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/9/2008 9:59:49 AM   
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Trust me when I tell you this. I don't need pepper spray to protect myself. I am a 300 LB, competitive weightlifter. I'm also very very well trained and experienced in fighting. Should I ever feel the need, I can protect myself quite well.
That being said, you used the word Owner like it's a bad one. I'm no tiny little submissive boy.
My Owner and I are Gorean, I am a kajirus, a very proud, masculine, spirited Gorean male slave. My Owner would not want me to be effeminate in anyway (and we don't have any problem whatsoever with those that are). She wants a slave that will serve and protect her, and is capable of being pleasing to her and those she directs me to serve. There is honor in that. She values me, as I am her prized property. She treats me with love and respect, and will not hesitate to correct me should I show any behavior that would impact her honor in a negative way. She allows me my voice, yet the final decision is hers to make, there is no wrong in that. My position as her slave is one that deserves respect, because I am unselfish enough in my life to place someone else above me.
Does that mean just any ol' person can come along and push me around and Dominate me? They would be in for a surprise should they try (And I've had one try it).
You and I merely come from a different approach to BDSM, and there is no wrong in that. The great part about this life is that we can all be different. I respect you and your desires, just as I would hope that you would show respect to my Owner and I in how we live our lives.



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/9/2008 10:17:39 AM   
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I'll tell you what I wish...

I wish that my boy would learn that his mouth is what gets him into trouble every single time.   Champion gravedigger, that one...

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/9/2008 10:37:11 AM   
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quote:

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 Champion gravedigger, that one...


I'd have thought you'd be impressed by that.

I'm sorry (no I'm not)...I couldn't resist.


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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/9/2008 12:19:45 PM   
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I do find the idea amusing in some respects because it is such a role reversal-ie the woman being in control, as lets face it if you didn't want/desire/like it she's down and out for the count. However I was brought up properly and would never strike a gal.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/10/2008 1:32:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bashfulhuck

Trust me when I tell you this. I don't need pepper spray to protect myself. I am a 300 LB, competitive weightlifter. I'm also very very well trained and experienced in fighting. Should I ever feel the need, I can protect myself quite well.
That being said, you used the word Owner like it's a bad one. I'm no tiny little submissive boy.
My Owner and I are Gorean, I am a kajirus, a very proud, masculine, spirited Gorean male slave. My Owner would not want me to be effeminate in anyway (and we don't have any problem whatsoever with those that are). She wants a slave that will serve and protect her, and is capable of being pleasing to her and those she directs me to serve. There is honor in that. She values me, as I am her prized property. She treats me with love and respect, and will not hesitate to correct me should I show any behavior that would impact her honor in a negative way. She allows me my voice, yet the final decision is hers to make, there is no wrong in that. My position as her slave is one that deserves respect, because I am unselfish enough in my life to place someone else above me.
Does that mean just any ol' person can come along and push me around and Dominate me? They would be in for a surprise should they try (And I've had one try it).
You and I merely come from a different approach to BDSM, and there is no wrong in that. The great part about this life is that we can all be different. I respect you and your desires, just as I would hope that you would show respect to my Owner and I in how we live our lives.





well .. I'm a little freaky pervert over the internet.  I used to hold a yellow belt in Tae Kwon Do, but it caught fire when the rest of my house did.  I'LL TAKE YOU ON BIG BOY!!! COME ON!!! MONO E MONO!!! U N ME!!! SUB TO SUB!! LET SUBTAL KOMBAT BEGIN!!!  Nah, I'm playing.   

See Gorean I don't understand.  I've allready pissed off the Gorean community members of this board once.  Just what I'm saying is, I couldn't call anyone my 'owner' because I don't read that much into it.  As a sexual pass time, when it comes to things like calling someone your 'owner', well, bedroom yes, but in reality, over the internet, and in public in general, I'd say "My girlfriend",  my "wife", my significant other and all that jazz.   My owner would be my life partner. 

Pyrrsefanie:  I'm the same.  Ask my girlfriend.  I offend her so often it's funny, usually though when I try to compliment her, she actually likes it now.  I'm like Mr Bean at relationships, how ever, there has been many times when it's kept the condom in the packet. 

Yorkshiredom68.  I've been in situations where, I COULD of and SHOULD of struck a girl, but didn't.   I don't hit women, never have, never will, but sometimes in self defence, even vagina weilding bandits need a swift kick to the head.


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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/10/2008 4:56:24 AM   
Dari


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ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Subs should be allowed to carry pepper spray


I would happily allow any of my subs to carry pepper spray.  Likewise, I have no problems with them carrying a gun (provided they have the requisite licensing), training in martial arts, or having any other experience or knowledge of self defense and protection.  The majority of my friends are military. ex-military, law enforcement, or martial artists (or a combination thereof).  On any given day, if I'm out with a group of friends, most of us could kill an attacker without breaking a sweat. 

The real question is, what does that have to do with submission?  Being submissive does not require you to be weak, helpless, or anybody's meat.  Being strong, being able to protect yourself - that doesn't make you less submissive.  It gives you an additional way to serve me.

<3 for the multi-talented sub/bodyguard types!  They're like - tasty and delicious.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/10/2008 7:06:40 PM   
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Having read your profile, it seems you are looking for validation.  There is a difference for me between strong, damaged and inexperienced when someone wants to be tamed.

If the chemistry is there, you will find yourself fighting to hold to that "prove it to me" attitude.  Each person has to prove their worth to the other.  If it starts out with a domme trying to prove to you that she is worthy, it undermines your ability to really submit, since she did it first.  If you meet her and explore, you may find more satisfaction in general. 

Occassionally pushing, challenging your domme can be exciting, always challenging someone is exhausting and can burn up the interest in you fast. 

Honestly, most people who have challenged me have had issues from the past or were really inexperienced and insecure about themselves.  Trust was the major item that had to be established on both sides. 

Good luck



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/10/2008 9:23:42 PM   
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Doormats are truly no fun, after you’ve wiped your feet your all done. Where’s the fun in that. I like a sub that is strong enough to dominate but is not a Dom. It’s a fun challenge and when he submits to me, than I feel great. 

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/10/2008 11:56:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Replies below are my personal preferences-

Their slaves/subs weren't so, submissive? 

No, being submissive is a good quality.

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?

No

Do any of them like the challenge of breaking someone who won't give in?

A take-down scene can be fun.  But a constant attitude of rebelliousness?  Not worth my time and energy.



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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/11/2008 12:08:59 AM   
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You might be searching for a switch dynamic rather than a D/s one. 

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/11/2008 9:11:48 AM   
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id submit. just not in a 'yes mistress' way.   It feels like the seduction and art of being a mistress has been lost in alot of dommes these days.

Im more into being seduced than dominated
Maybe I have issues, I dont know, don't really care.  In a way, I'm like a ... Vanilla, sub thingy..... I dont want to be spanked or whipped, or made to do house work or suck another mans meat.  I don't want to take it up the ass, or be trampled on or have clothes pegs on my nipples while my cocks in a knot.  I just want a chick who enjoys sex with an edge.   With a bitch attitude to keep me on my toes.  Thts all.  I take charge far too much in my life.  My life revolves around pleasing others, so, when it comes to women, I just want one who can take charge for me and let me pleasure her with out making it difficult.  A girl who will say want she wants, not make me guess. 

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/11/2008 10:21:38 AM   
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forced submission. kind of like forced bi.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/12/2008 10:25:15 PM   
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id submit. just not in a 'yes mistress' way.   It feels like the seduction and art of being a mistress has been lost in alot of dommes these days.

Im more into being seduced than dominated
Maybe I have issues, I dont know, don't really care.  In a way, I'm like a ... Vanilla, sub thingy..... I dont want to be spanked or whipped, or made to do house work or suck another mans meat.  I don't want to take it up the ass, or be trampled on or have clothes pegs on my nipples while my cocks in a knot.  I just want a chick who enjoys sex with an edge.   With a bitch attitude to keep me on my toes.  Thts all.  I take charge far too much in my life.  My life revolves around pleasing others, so, when it comes to women, I just want one who can take charge for me and let me pleasure her with out making it difficult.  A girl who will say want she wants, not make me guess. 


Well the short answer is that by what you have said, you are NOT willing to submit your will, you just want spicy sex with a somewhat bossy girl. Nothing wrong with that, hope you can find it. BUT hanging around here and insulting the lifestyle choices of others isn't exactly going to help you.

YOU put the question out for the board in general to respond to. Many of the people here are genuine lifestyle D/s orientated, they have answered honestly with what THEY personally want and expect. Just because it doesn't fit with your worldview, doesn't give you the right to knock it. I think you have a very narrow view of male submissives and no concept at all of the courage and bravery it takes to actually put your life in the hands of another. To NOT be the one in control. To NOT know exactly what is coming next or what they will ask of you. It's scary as hell ... and exciting as hell too. Let Me sidetrack here ... have you ever done something like abseiling or skydiving? To literally trust your life to a piece of rope or silk? Maybe then you would have a better concept of what it's like to submit. Except you are submitting to a person, something more complex and multifaceted than rope or silk. It's a mindblast! And I speak as a person who both submits (to one Master) and Dominates other males ... I KNOW it takes more courage and strength to submit than it does to Dominate. I don't ask more of My subs than i submit myself ... and as i don't continually backchat Master and say no for the hell of it ... I don't expect that of My subs either. By the time they want to be My sub, they have to prove they have a willing attitude towards submission and obedience. Yes they can voice their opinions ... yes we can have spirited debates ... but ultimately they accept the buck stops with Me. That's what submission is about in a lifestyle context.

I can accept that lifestyle is not for you. Fine. But it would do you honour to accept that it is for others.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/12/2008 10:54:32 PM   
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It is a slow night on the political side,so I wandered over here ,thought I might be able to gain some insight that might help in my search...read through the three pages of posts...and one theme jumped out at me (and maybe even surprised me a bit)these Ladys ,the one's that post on a regular basis, CollarMe's Classy Domme's, really hold their sub's in high regard and seem to have great respect for the strength it takes to submit to surrender and sublimate one's needs in the service of another...Thank You one and all...A listing of the Lady's I would like to thank is way to extensive (don't know why I was surprised)

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/12/2008 10:55:12 PM   
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If you are taking offense your taking what I've written out of concept.   If you want to call people 'master' and live in a dungeon, well, fine.  But, thats where I think you're focussing on the wrong part.   You say things like "have you ever trusted your life to a peice of rope?" well, I've absailed, (I think thats what it's called, down a cliffe face?) I've done all that trust exercise shit, and basically all I've learnt is never trust anyone who isn't you.  Which is exactly why I search for a bossy bitch who one day I can trust enough to explore those fetishes with with out being judged, and even having her enjoy them on the same level as I do.

How ever, I see no value in calling someone 'master' or 'mistress' in order to place that trust.  I see that as a comical, quirk to a lifestyle.  A fad, a gimmic.  Just like I see the leather, the whips, the dildos and the dungeons as a gimmic.  Part of a scene.  Like how people into Hip-Hop music might wear baggy jeans and their caps backwards or something.  How ever, I know alot of people out there into that who take it for what it is, music.  They don't need to conform to a image to enjoy it.  They make it PART of their lifestyle.  They dominate it, they don't let it dominate them.  Thats why I think alot of domme's here are, well actually not so domineering.  Because it appears to me they've been dominated by an image as opposed to making it part of their own.  If thats what they want to do fine, I respect that.  But, if your going to live as a sissy, than accept it and be prepaired for society to treat you as one.

If your going to make your life revolve around being a domme, as opposed to having it as part of your life, well be prepared to be treated as one.  And what do people say about others in society who are bossy, and nasty, and keep people under the whip? Not to be insulting, but as soon as they leave the copy machine the others are there saying "My God shes a bitch, I can't stand her".   And what do people say about men who are dominated by their woman when they're called home from the pub?  "Mate, that blokes pussy whipped." and it might be the case he gets treated like a pussy.  And so, if your going to commit your life to being a sissy or a bossy boots, then be prepaired to be treated like that.  I don't mean you personally, I mean the scene in general.  I have respect for life style people, just I treat them as what they are, which is what they have CHOSEN, themselves, to live their lives as.   I don't choose to live my life that way, only my SEX life, thus in the bedroom I might give in to some womans demands, but in real life I don't choose that, because I dominate that part of my life, I choose not to let it dominate me.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/12/2008 11:01:11 PM   
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Yes - kinda - I don't like simps.
Yes - absolutely - I expect my subs to communicate about what works and what doesn't.
No - I did that once, and 10 years into our seemingly eternal struggle, we disengaged, and it was 10 years of life neither of us will get back.  I don't want to break anyone and I can't fix them.  I just want to enjoy them, and them, me.

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/12/2008 11:05:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Racquelle

Yes - kinda - I don't like simps.
Yes - absolutely - I expect my subs to communicate about what works and what doesn't.
No - I did that once, and 10 years into our seemingly eternal struggle, we disengaged, and it was 10 years of life neither of us will get back.  I don't want to break anyone and I can't fix them.  I just want to enjoy them, and them, me.

That certainly seems reasonable

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RE: Do Dommes ever wish that --- - 7/13/2008 3:46:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HardToTame

Does a domme ever wish her slave would stand up and be brave enough to say no?


I do like it when they get bratty. Most of my experience has been with female submissives and I have found I can make even the passive ones turn a little bratty. My former live in female sub loved to clean. It was her kink. Once when she missed a spot in her cleaning of the kitchen I had her clean the entire kitchen again. When she was done I inspected her work and "found" another dirty spot. She protested and said it was just discoloring of the floor tile (she was right). "How dare you talk back to me" I said. Again she had to clean the kitchen.....and again.....and again.....the 7th time she said "NO MORE FUCK THIS!"

Not once did I strike her. When she saw that the world didn't end with her saying "no", and she saw that I still loved her even after she said "no", she became just a little more bratty and a little more strong willed. She still knew when not to push it but every now and then she would say "no". Then I would have to punish her. Sometimes with the over the knee spankings she enjoyed and sometimes with the corner time she didn't really enjoy. Sometimes with a mixture of both.

If your sub never says no
and you wish a backbone sub would grow
put sub to work in the kitchen a cleaning
put sub to work until sub is no longer a beaming
tired and angry your sub will grow
soon a hidden backbone sub will show
then loud and clear
you will hear

"HELL NO!"

"FUCK THIS YOU HO!"


Stacey

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