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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 8:00:51 PM

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Yeah. Very occasionally.

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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 8:16:16 PM

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why not? If she has made her arguement well enough. I am secure enough in who I am not to need to win every fight and argument in order to be Dominant in the relationship. That is the mark of an insecure person, in My humble view.

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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 8:27:07 PM

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Would You let your girl win the occasional fight or not???

In any relationship, there are only two outcomes to every conflict. All parties win, or all parties lose.

There is no third option.

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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 9:10:28 PM

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"Letting" your girl win an argument seems a rather cowardly way of conceding an argument. If you are wrong, and your girl is correct, why belabor the point? Concede and move on. If you are correct, and your girl feels it necessary to argue to the point you have to "let" her win - both parties need to be better disciplined.

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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 10:01:35 PM

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cage match prob not i am competitive , argument prob its called compromise .Wrestling depends if oil is involved ..

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RE: yes or no - 7/6/2008 10:18:57 PM

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"Letting" your girl win an argument seems a rather cowardly way of conceding an argument. If you are wrong, and your girl is correct, why belabor the point? Concede and move on. If you are correct, and your girl feels it necessary to argue to the point you have to "let" her win - both parties need to be better disciplined.

Spot on!

Get egos out of the picture and work together to make the best decision for both ... and remember wisdom isn't confined to only one side of the slash! And remember My Mum's greatest wisdom ... in an argument, there is always something to be sorry for on BOTH sides. Not necessarily to do with the content of the disagreement, but more likely in how it was expressed! So don't be afraid to say sorry for your part in the proceedings. It takes more courage and strength of character to apologise than to bluster.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 2:08:11 AM

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Its like owning and training a very dominant dog - you dont ever let the dog win or else it will learn that it might just be more in charge than you are - give an inch and they take a mile

There is a difference between right / wrong and win / lose - its important to know the difference

I always win, so does my girl - why be unhappy in life?

I am always right, even when I am wrong and she is right - since she is mine and therefore when she is right, so am I

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 2:36:57 AM

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Would You let your girl win the occasional fight or not???

Fighting is an indication that the communications have gone South to some degree, and have degenerated into combat. We try to avoid these situations, though they do happen on occasion. Generally, our arguments are about will - and generally it's me bucking his will. We spend most of our time during the 'fight' trying to get to the root cause, rather than 'winning or losing'.

This is not to say we don't disagree with each other. He's certainly willing to listen to a well thought out and articulated premise and I suppose he let's me 'win' when I'm right. But for the most part, we operate at a higher level than what you appear to be describing.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:01:52 AM

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I do not feel our arguments are about winning or losing. They are about communication and an exchange of ideas. Sometimes a fiery exchange that results in my restraint, but an exchange nonetheless

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:02:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

"Letting" your girl win an argument seems a rather cowardly way of conceding an argument. If you are wrong, and your girl is correct, why belabor the point? Concede and move on. If you are correct, and your girl feels it necessary to argue to the point you have to "let" her win - both parties need to be better disciplined.

Not always "cowardly"; sometimes an act of kindness.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:04:26 AM

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In any relationship, there are only two outcomes to every conflict. All parties win, or all parties lose.

There is no third option.

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I always win, so does my girl - why be unhappy in life?

I am always right, even when I am wrong and she is right - since she is mine and therefore when she is right, so am I

my Master will make use of more than just my body, He will make use of my opinions, my judgement, my wisdom, my experiences. Those belong to Him as much as any other part of me.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:16:21 AM

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"Let win?"
I would hope she would be strong enough and intelligent enough to show me when I'm wrong. I'm not perfect (does this mean I'm not a "twue" Dom?) and I enjoy a woman who is strong and smart.
Besides, I can always just throw her over my shoulder and ravish her if I feel I need to.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:19:48 AM

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Everybody is wrong sometimes. It isn't a matter of anyone "winning" anything.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 3:32:04 AM

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greetings to all,

There is no such thing as Master "letting me win" a disagreement. Disagreements don't happen in our relationship. It doesn't honestly occur to me to argue with Him over things nowdays; I might not like His decisions at times, but He is the Master, His will is how things are and will be. I consented to His ownership, in every part of my life, not just some of it (or if and when I feel like it). I have to say that our relationship has to be the most harmonious (and yes, fulfilling) one I've ever been in, because the "power struggles" that other couples tend to have (even the ones with a power dynamic of some sort) just don't exist.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 4:25:49 AM

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You seem like one of those people who chucks a figurative rock in a pool, only to stand back and watch the ripples.

What kind of fight? Do you mean reasoned debate? Wrestling on the lounge rug, what?

We have never "fought" at any point in our relationship, but have had many a good debate on various subjects, sometimes Andy's basic argument is accepted at the end of it, sometimes mine, it all depends on who puts in the most reasonable points of view. There's none of this crap about him being Master so whatever he thinks is right even if he's wrong, we are reasonable adults who interact on the same level, and who exercise our intellects to the best of our abilities because we like it that way.

i know, for the most part, that there are certain subjects where Andy has more experience and knowledge than i do, and where i wouldn't normally gain the upper hand in a debate, and he knows there are areas of experience and knowledge where i have the upper hand and would have a hard time coming up with a reasonable argument to overturn mine. But that's life, makes for a vibrant relationship to be able to debate like adults and accept the other point of view above our own.

As for wrestling on the mat...he wins, hands down!

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 4:56:52 AM

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Would You let your girl win the occasional fight or not???

If we were wrestling? He better not since he's much bigger than I am. I'd think he was a pussy if I was able to beat him.
A mental fight? If it was a valid disagreement, I would think we'd act like adults and discuss it.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 5:40:21 AM

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Would You let your girl win the occasional fight or not???

"Let"? No!

Could I be wrong and she consequently "wins"? Yes - been there; done that....

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 5:55:37 AM

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"Letting" your girl win an argument seems a rather cowardly way of conceding an argument. If you are wrong, and your girl is correct, why belabor the point? Concede and move on. If you are correct, and your girl feels it necessary to argue to the point you have to "let" her win - both parties need to be better disciplined.

Not always "cowardly"; sometimes an act of kindness.

Yes sir, I agree it is not always cowardly. I actully didn't like that word, but used it for lack of a better one. Condescending didn't seem to fit. Lazy almost seemed better, but again not really. As to whether it is a kindness to condescend to let someone win an argument, I'm not sure I'd necessarily agree. Probably because I am so very non-confrontational to begin with. The only issues I can imagine I'd be adamant enough about to argue over, would probably be very important to me and I would be sadly distressed to be "let" to win in that instance. It would be like hearing, "Yes dear" and leave me feeling as if the issue was unresolved. Again, from my perspective, if I felt adamant enough to argue, it would be something of importance to me. Leaving it unresolved would be upsetting.

In a debate (which I do not see as an argument) it is an entirely different scenario and I'd hope I could present a compelling viewpoint in that case, that did not merit someone throwing me a bone, to 'let' me win. I'd probably want to kick someone's shins, if they condescended to me in that fashion, but hope I'd be a bit more disciplined and refrain from doing so. I do imagine a foot stomp, or exasperated sigh would be forthcoming.

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 6:13:43 AM

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We both win when we're not battling against each other, but rather for each other. It's really not about winning a fight with us, it's about getting things right between us.

No fair owned! You stole my answer!

He and I do not fight. The rare times when there is tension, we work through it...... and it is always respectful. Everything that we do is for the benefit of our relationship and each other.

Ownedgirlie stole your answer and then you stole mine

. Seriously, though, that is exactly how it is with us. There has never been a "fight." It takes two to "fight" and He simply won't play that nonsense. If there is something causing a problem, we talk it out and we work it out. We never go to sleep at night with an issue unresolved. It is all about respect as you say and we share that for each other.........luci

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RE: yes or no - 7/7/2008 6:34:54 AM

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Would You let your girl win the occasional fight or not???

Why no-win? I thought that was power over?
Look if I get lippy I'm going to get hog tied, duct-taped, locked in the boot of the car and left there until he decides to let me out. And then tied between two trees and whipped, mouth-fucked until I beg for gorgiveness by which time I will have forgotten what I lipped about.
So I guess I will never learn eh?
But it sure does ensure I get a whipping. Win-win eh?

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