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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:13:00 PM   
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Actually, highly educated critters in them there doctor places where they teach people to be doctors and such are learning a lot from voodoo cures, along with native american traditional medicine as well as the traditional healing methods of a lot of cultures.

Why, there is even a study going on concerning how maggots will clean the dead flesh of a wound.....


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:14:45 PM   
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Why, there is even a study going on concerning how maggots will clean the dead flesh of a wound.....


Why, jlf ... you say the sexiest things...  lol  

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:18:51 PM   
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Why, there is even a study going on concerning how maggots will clean the dead flesh of a wound.....


Why, jlf ... you say the sexiest things...  lol  



...true though.....maggots are being used to combat antibiotic resistent infections. Also leeches are making a comeback too..........heh......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1907065.stm

http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/ap/vdgconcepts/cardio/reading29.mhtml


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:19:40 PM   
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Hey, it sounds gross, it probably looks worse than it sounds, and if it was a choice between that or losing an arm or leg, I would tell the doc to grab a saw.

As far as the sexiest things, well, if you think that was sexy, wait till you hear me saying stuff about how to deliver fresh bovine produced fertilizer over a neighbor's back yard because he wants to wake up the folks across the road..... IN THE FRIGGING CEMETARY!!!!!


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:19:44 PM   
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I know ... it's just reading about it whilst eating my lunch is something I can do without...  lol

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:43:58 PM   
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True.

But then considering some of the things I have seen in my lifetime, nothing really phases me while eating.... except maybe the image of Rosanne Barr in a thong bikini.....


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 12:56:47 PM   
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Look, it seems that many want to blame the entire Muslim world for the actions of a few.

HOWEVER, if you really want to blame the Muslims for something, then I suggest the following:
In mathmatics: Arithmatic, Algebra,  Trigonometry, just to name a few...
I mean they were the reason we had all those endless hours of homework trying to figure out why x=y etc....


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 1:09:40 PM   
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... except maybe the image of Rosanne Barr in a thong bikini.....



...to quote Brian Griffin, "Argh.......it's like a walrus flossing"

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:19:46 PM   
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the term "barbarism" comes directly from references to the "berber" ethnic minority in northern africa, and has pretty much always been used to "other" any culture or practice that's termed "barbaric." "outrageous" and "atrocious" would be much better words to use here if that's what you actually mean.




Other way around....


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=berber&searchmode=none

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=barbarian&searchmode=none

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:22:01 PM   
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I thought it was right outta the barbary coast.


Guess I have to go lick my berber carpet now.

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:38:50 PM   
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LOL, sure you can!
I've "interacted" personally with Hatians while I was in the USCG.
I "learned" something from them too.


Popeye, I learned a lot from them too.... Its amazing how much wake turbulence a high speed jet produces LOL Did you know its enough to flip over a boat????  LOL

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:41:04 PM   
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Hey, it sounds gross, it probably looks worse than it sounds, and if it was a choice between that or losing an arm or leg, I would tell the doc to grab a saw.

As far as the sexiest things, well, if you think that was sexy, wait till you hear me saying stuff about how to deliver fresh bovine produced fertilizer over a neighbor's back yard because he wants to wake up the folks across the road..... IN THE FRIGGING CEMETARY!!!!!



Remember you asked to be informed about things likely to hamper your ability to get laid? This is one of those things... Maggots, spreading cowshit, sawing off limbs, none of this is likely to dampen panties...

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:45:28 PM   
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Hey, it sounds gross, it probably looks worse than it sounds, and if it was a choice between that or losing an arm or leg, I would tell the doc to grab a saw.

As far as the sexiest things, well, if you think that was sexy, wait till you hear me saying stuff about how to deliver fresh bovine produced fertilizer over a neighbor's back yard because he wants to wake up the folks across the road..... IN THE FRIGGING CEMETARY!!!!!



Remember you asked to be informed about things likely to hamper your ability to get laid? This is one of those things... Maggots, spreading cowshit, sawing off limbs, none of this is likely to dampen panties...


LOL, who knows what evil lurks in the hearts and minds of women?

get these cage me, shit on me, piss on me...all the time
when I tell them, if you cook for me, suck me off or fuck me, your ass is gonna be cleaned up, scrubbed up and smelling like a girl.....

they get all huffy.

I could never do that.....

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 5:53:41 PM   
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the term "barbarism" comes directly from references to the "berber" ethnic minority in northern africa, and has pretty much always been used to "other" any culture or practice that's termed "barbaric." "outrageous" and "atrocious" would be much better words to use here if that's what you actually mean.




Other way around....


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=berber&searchmode=none

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=barbarian&searchmode=none


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1338, from M.L. barbarinus, from L. barbaria "foreign country," from Gk. barbaros "foreign, strange, ignorant," from PIE base *barbar- echoic of unintelligible speech of foreigners (cf. Skt. barbara- "stammering," also "non-Aryan"). Barbaric is first recorded 1490, from O.Fr. barbarique, from L. barbaricus "foreign, strange, outlandish." Barbarous is first attested 1526.
from the source you posted. as i said, it's pretty much always been used derogatorily to refer to the berber ethnic minority - whether used by arabs, greeks, or other cultures. the word "berber" itself originated from the arabic (the people refer to themselves as the amazigh) but was later used by europeans as a term for anyone whose practices they disagreed with in that region, as it became corrupted in the greek to mean foreign, strange, outlandish, and ignorant. the point i was making is that the word itself has always been used to "other" people, often in ways that are extremely problematic ethnically and culturally; using it pejoratively as it often is to mean "outrageous" or "atrocious" only perpetuates the same dualistic, condescending us/them attitudes. it's linguistically incorrect and disgusting to boot, in my opinion; it's no different than the usage of a racial epithet such as nigger or spick.

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:00:24 PM   
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i think the worst culture is the" ignorant, hick, redneck, dipshit, that knows better...but actually convinces themselves they are more entitled to being here than anyone else based on race, class, or social station' culture.  When are we gonna step letting those mother fuckers into the land??? Or better yet, stop the assholes from breeding???  Couldn't we just set up abortion clinics within a 5 mile radius of every Klan rally or Confederate flag waving tractor pull???  Or better yet...have some sort of  secret ops "escort" their asses over the border in exchange for some good Canadians or Mexicans....but then again, these forums would seem so empty....

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:02:46 PM   
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Remember you asked to be informed about things likely to hamper your ability to get laid? This is one of those things... Maggots, spreading cowshit, sawing off limbs, none of this is likely to dampen panties...



DA, I am sure this is true, HOWEVER, I would also like to point out that discussing the pros and cons of MOPAR vs the rest of the automotive world, the proper way to prepare sushi, treatment of various equine maladies, making of Lacquered Leather Armor, or the current stats of my favorite Ball team would have the same negative effect.

Along with discussions concerning Shakespeare, Kant, Plato, Thomas Aquinas, St. George the Dragon Slayer, the possibility that Christ had children, the possible hiding places for the treasure of the Poor Knights of the Temple, AND, the fact that if you wish to judge a sailboat of 10 meters or longer, you should compare her to a beautiful woman....

Now, on the other hand, discussing the on screen dynamic of Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in their various movies together and the effect on modern romance would probably result in my dropping my DVD of the great escape into the DVD player....

And since you have yet to come up with a socially acceptable solution to noisy neighbors that would possibly work.....


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:03:44 PM   
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if anyone is interested in the origins of the berber term

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c.1300, "foreign lands" (especially non-Christian lands," from L. barbarus "barbarous" (see barbarian). Meaning "Saracens living in coastal North Africa" is attested from 1596, via Fr. (O.Fr. Barbarie), from Arabic Barbar, Berber, ancient Arabic name for the inhabitants of N.Africa beyond Egypt. Perhaps a native Arabic word, from barbara "to babble confusedly," which may be ult. from Gk. barbaria (see barbarian). "The actual relations (if any) of the Arabic and Gr[eek] words cannot be settled; but in European langs. barbaria, Barbarie, Barbary, have from the first been treated as identical with L. barbaria, Byzantine Gr[eek] barbaria land of barbarians.


this is also from what alumbrado posted, stating that the arabic word itself may originate from the greek pejorative term. this is one website by a group of amazigh that attempts to explain some of the history. i first became acquainted with the issue through dr. doris gray, who wrote a book called "muslim women on the move: moroccan women and french women of moroccan origin speak out," which i'd recommend to anyone interested in the history of the maghreb, particularly morocco (including some issues to do with amazigh history).


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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:09:33 PM   
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Forget religion, forget race, look at the one thing we can all agree on, any atrocity committed against any one on this planet is an atrocity committed against ourselves.
  Don't you wish this was actually something we all agreed on?  I know I do.  I am sick to death of hearing how OUR atrocities are ok, but THEIRS arent.  WE are all US.  There is no THEM.

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:11:49 PM   
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Or better yet...have some sort of secret ops "escort" their asses over the border in exchange for some good Canadians or Mexicans
  Someone had to say it.  Thank you.

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RE: A Little Too Much Multiculturalism - 7/11/2008 6:16:26 PM   
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from the source you posted. as i said, it's pretty much always been used derogatorily to refer to the berber ethnic minority - whether used by arabs, greeks, or other cultures. the word "berber" itself originated from the arabic (the people refer to themselves as the amazigh) but was later used by europeans as a term for anyone whose practices they disagreed with in that region, as it became corrupted in the greek to mean foreign, strange, outlandish, and ignorant. the point i was making is that the word itself has always been used to "other" people, often in ways that are extremely problematic ethnically and culturally; using it pejoratively as it often is to mean "outrageous" or "atrocious" only perpetuates the same dualistic, condescending us/them attitudes. it's linguistically incorrect and disgusting to boot, in my opinion; it's no different than the usage of a racial epithet such as nigger or spick.



'Berber' was coined in the 19th century, from the Arabic Al-Barbar... by which time 'bararian' had been around for  centuries, often applied to the northern Germanic marauding tribes, and many other groups...

And the Imazighen people of north Africa were called Libyans, Mashesh, Numidians, etc. before they were called Berbers..


The fact that you wish to use barbarian  as a racial epithet, is as much your choice as your embracing of the others you've posted.




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