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RE: When I die. - 7/14/2008 11:39:56 PM   
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How can anyone have the balls to die? It happens eventually whether you have the balls for it or not.

True, but if the juice head wants to be all romantical and fantasize that it’s less pathetic to  break down than to skid into the grave sideways after a healthy run or to fade away gracefully, we should give him a good limerick for an epitaph!
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Here lies a juice head that was too drunk to get fucked. 
He saw Leaving Las Vegas but didn’t learn being pathetic sucked.
So he romanticized the slow destruction of his life. 
But no one cared, they’d rather he just did it quickly with a knife.

To his own surprise, his drinking didn’t turn out to be killer.
Unfortunately for him, he only lost half his liver. 
To his dismay the surgery and treatment made him rejuvenate.
The poor bastard was so pickled, he lived in misery until he was 108.
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Silly goose, hope you straighten up and enjoy the next 51 years!

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 3:12:29 AM   
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Yes, I have the balls to die.



If it were up to me your headstone would read one word: COWARD.
dying does not take balls. Living does.
Sober up and grow a pair.


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 3:17:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

How can anyone have the balls to die? It happens eventually whether you have the balls for it or not.



Yeah, i totally agree, i have nor have i ever had balls, but still, imma die one day. i found that quite sexist. LOL

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 3:17:23 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 5:51:40 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 6:00:48 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 6:29:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like a cry for help to me. Why? I'm an alcoholic too. The difference being I've benn sober for 25 years. Not one drop of alcohol has passed my lips since Feb 26, 1983.

It took ten years of research to get to that point. I highly recommend 90 AA meetings in 90 days or more. Read the book Alcoholics Anonymous by Bill W

Today I set a new record everyday. I've never been sober this long in my life before. That's a good feeling.


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 6:36:27 AM   
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BTW, my grandmother passed last year at 102.  She lived through a hell of a lot, including the Nazis.  She took good care of herself and of others her entire life.


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 6:42:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Term, you and I have had our differences. No one and nothing is simply black or white. I will say that I have seen from your posts that when you are sober you can make some rational good sense, when you're not sober, you rant like the alcoholic you adnit being. No surprise here, eh ?

Only you can decide whether you want to live and live sober or not. I agree that it takes balls to live, suicide, by alcohol or other means is a copout. So, it's up to you whether your epitaph will be "Didn't Have The Balls To Live" or something else.

Btw, my favorite epitaph is on a tombstone in Key West. It says " I Told You I was Sick ".


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 8:03:57 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 8:05:22 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 8:16:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Term..........if you were a bit older and in California I would swear you are my exhusband. Except the last time I talked to him, I think his brain was more pickled.

If you've caused half the misery to others, with your destructive behaviour, as he has, no sympathy for you here. All I can say is that I hope like hell you've learned alot from this go round so you don't have to repeat it next time.

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 8:31:16 AM   
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 12:00:33 PM   
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suicide is the ultimate in selfish acts.


So true ...my mother committed suicide when I was 15  too bad she did not get to see the effect of what she did had on others who did care about her or the blame they cast on themselves for her selfish act ...as others stated it is the cowardly,  weak ones  way out


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 1:28:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		J, could ramble for hours, he was intelligent.  Too many didn't listen.  He had a hard life....blah..blah..blah.

Don't be thinking you get to hang it all up that quickly.  You could have gurd...or any number of issues.
Doesn't mean its fatal.  All it really does mean is you get tortured by it.

Actually, the military..screwed up my stomach.  Essentially told me I was going to die all the while telling me they weren't responsible and could not be held accountable.  In any event...I am almost in the same position you are right now.
I can eat...get a full feeling..almost throw up.  Haven't fully thrown up yet. 
I can feel fine..then all of the sudden I get serious pain...I'm hungry..but my body isn't reacting the way it should be.  When I do eat...I get full but my body doesn't let me know until it is too full.

So, yeah..for all you know it could be a virus going around.
I'm not dying...well I am...but not from anything like a stomach problem.  I'm dying because I age seconds every moment...and we all have to die sometime.

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 1:33:40 PM   
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suicide is the ultimate in selfish acts.


Well........... yes....... since its wholly about one's self and the pain one is experiencing.

Suicide isn't something that someone is doing to another person. Sometimes the people who want to die convince themselves they are doing the world a favor. Or that they are in too much pain, depite how much others want them to live. Or..... whatever is appropriate in the given situation. Its virtually impossible to understand anyone's full reasoning to leave us. And whether the product of depression or mental illness, it is their life and their choice. And while we could affect it, or their life. Its sincerely not about "us". Even if it seems so on the surface.

Its hard to understand that, as one of those left behind. I struggled for years to really grasp what I'm trying to articulate here. But, I hear that a lot, how selfish it is. And I just don't have that frutration and animosity toward the suicidal anymore. All I do is ache for them, their pain, their loneliness, their dark spot that isn't being reached. Its my belief that if we let go of being so possessive of people and their life that then we can truly help them, because its not about us at that point, its just about them and the help that they need. When people react with frustration and anger at the suggestion of suicide and personal betrayal--- it seems to simply breakdown communication and alienate those at risk even more.

(Btw, GreedyTop I'm not saying this as a reflection of you, or how you personally feel or treat people--- of that I have no clue--- but just taking your quote and running with it and sharing some personal thoughts on the matter without context toward you personally)


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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 2:16:34 PM   
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go to a neonatal intensive care unit and see how hard some of the tiniest babies fight to live, or a cancer care ward and watch people hold on with all they have and what those people endure to stay alive.  dying's the easy way out.


very well said...I am on my uni placement in a hospice with a huge variety of different ages and different health issues and can only agree how they hold onto their life as long as they can. It is not the kind of placement I expected nor what I wanted but it teaches a lot. Also in my work many years ago where I cared for a guy with motor neurone disease which caused his muscels to stop working (at first his legs, a few years later he couldnt move his arms anymore and in 2005 he could not even hold his head for a long period of time anymore by himself and needed a breathing mask at night time to stay alife. 2006 he left. He was one of my nicest clients I ever worked for and still a nice and charming guy most of the time, where he could have enough reasons to give up and to be horrid and depressed. But instead he accepted his situation how it was and made the best out of it.)

Therefore whilst I am happy to accept if a person is terminally ill and has no willpower to continue chemotherapy and is "ready to go" such as my grandma (as with her type of cancer she knew there was no cure and the first therapy gave her one more well lived year) I did struggle with it to see how my grandpa died on alcoholism before her, aged just 79. It was just quite a waste of life to die "so early" on alcohol (as despite his alcoholism he was incredible healthy, was proud about to still have his own teeth and might have reached the age of his mum who was 97 when she died and still knitted socks for us as her great great grandchildren aged 95). So I can only agree (also due to personal experience how my life changed in recent years and with living abroad), that it takes more strength to continue to live and to try to get the life sorted and back on track then to give up and to go. well, good luck in your choice  

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 2:57:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have no sympathy for alcoholics.  nobody made them drink themselves into that position; if they expect someone to feel sorry for what they've done to themselves and what they won't stop doing, don't come to me.  my grandfather drank himself to death, too bad it took him over 30 yrs to do it.  you may think this is the easy way out, just drink yourself into the grave.  he figured he'd do that too, just never planned it would take him so long.
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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 3:07:54 PM   
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There is a medication that is effective against nicotine addiction, that hypothetically may be effective against any addiction:
 
"Zyban (bupropion)
Bupropion is a prescription anti-depressant medication marketed under the brand names Wellbutrin (for depression) and Zyban (for smoking cessation)".
 
I do not know if it will work. I may be wrong. In any case there are several other ways that have proven effectiveness against alcohol addiction.
 
Keep me updated.

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 4:10:14 PM   
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