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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 4:28:02 PM   
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I should add that Zyban, being psychoactive, does mess with the brain. When my neighbour girl used it, I was quite concerned for her. She had used it also one year ago, but had to give up because of the side effects. About two months ago she tried a new course, got the side effects, but also stopped smoking and stopped the medication prematurely after a couple of weeks as her purpose had been achieved. She has not smoked since. Medical supervision is required with this drug.

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 4:30:07 PM   
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Nikolette.. nicely said... 

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 4:43:57 PM   
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good for you...i don't know what to say about a man i don't know...so i'll just say what i want when i die, which will definitely be sooner than i plan...whoever's left alive gets to decide what to do with my earthly remains & possessions, cause i won't really care anymore....i hope


I will say that the best gift my mother in law ever gave my ex was to have figured out what she wanted in a funeral, down to the hymns and the dress she would be buried in and leave it in a file folder prominently in her desk drawer. At a time when he was in shock and barely able to cope, he didn't have to make any of those decisions. Just gave one copy to the funeral home and one to the minister of her church.

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RE: When I die. - 7/15/2008 9:08:56 PM   
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GreedyTop: Thank you!

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 5:12:24 AM   
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I have serious issues with my digestional tract. I can barely eat a couple of hundred calories without throwing up. I wake up naseuos in the morning, If I eat too much I throw it up.

When you stop consuming alcohol your digestive tract will probably recuperate in about two weeks. Get yourself to a physician, go to AA meetings daily, get religious. You have hit rock bottom now, so start the uphill struggle. Others have succeeded and so can you. Courage!

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 8:37:31 AM   
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Can't say that this was what I expected. But I appreciate honesty.

So some of you think my mind is pickled, am I slurring my typing ? (typoing it my favorite typo BTW). But the thing is, I asked, and I got answers. Whether or not they come with the proverbial grain of salt, they are telling me your opinions. That seems to be what I asked for. Ha, be careful for what you ask for.

But the responses about the drinking are still responses. I choose whether or not to take advice, but the volume of responses extolling the virtues of sobriety will not be ignored. I will consider all of the responses. After all I asked. Maybe it is time to cut down, but I have no desire to quit completely. Same with anything else.

But I have quit hard liquor, I know I simply can't handle it. Sure I could actually go to a bar and have a shot or two, but that would have to be it. I do not want a bottle of whiskey in my house. I like the shit too much. After a few it tastes like water to me, and just too many times it has resulted in troubles.

My consumption level now is not all that high, and consists of beer that I consider light (Busch). It only runs about two or three percent alcohol. I also drink it slowly, and am used to it being not quite so cold.

Like smoking, I am cutting down, but a big part of the reason is cost. I know it's no good for me but I like it so I do it.

And magic mirror just appeared in front of me. You have inadvertently given me like a vision or something.

I just said that I do it because I like it, and while I am not sure if I have done it here, I have talked to people about their physical condition, and told them about certain things that they were eating that are poison. And when they ignore my advice I then don't want to hear about it. I seem to have engaged in a double standard of sorts.

But most of this is in R/L, and I also must admit that not everyone ignores my advice. Some consider it, change habits slightly, perhaps don't eat that total junkfood every day but then some say "Every once in a while I gotta have it". Well once a week is better than twice a day.

So I thank you all for somehow collectively giving me this moment of introspection. But really, quitting everything and living the clean life is not for me. But perhaps some adjustments are in order.

If my times of inebriation are showing here (not right now but sometimes), I need to consider that, because of course at those times I think I am sober as a judge. Well, I mean sober. I shall consider what has been said here, of that there is no doubt.

Now about the balls to die thing. What that means is I do not go to doctors. I have no death wish, and the fact that I do not fear it is taken wrong by many. It is seen as a desire to die, and it is nothing of the sort.

Not fearing death is good for life.

Anyway, there is a possibility that beer is affecting me adversely, physically. How bad can that be ? Is beer one of those things you simply should not drink every day ? I mean even if it had no alcohol in it at all.

My problem is finding something else to drink. I can cut down easily, but I will have to buy bottled water as I am not drinking tap water, nor any of those posons they sell so many of. Ain't happening.

Now see, why would I avoid soda, sugar, hydrogenated and all that if I wanted to die ?

So the point is, is the beer hurting me physically ?

You know some people can't get enough Pepsi, can't get enough Coke, can't get enough Mountain Dew. Is this just as bad ?

Things to be considered indeed, but time for work. Back later [to the monster I created here].

T

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 11:42:41 AM   
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good for you...i don't know what to say about a man i don't know...so i'll just say what i want when i die, which will definitely be sooner than i plan...whoever's left alive gets to decide what to do with my earthly remains & possessions, cause i won't really care anymore....i hope


I will say that the best gift my mother in law ever gave my ex was to have figured out what she wanted in a funeral, down to the hymns and the dress she would be buried in and leave it in a file folder prominently in her desk drawer. At a time when he was in shock and barely able to cope, he didn't have to make any of those decisions. Just gave one copy to the funeral home and one to the minister of her church.


believe me, my family all have their own plans...the first one being to have a bonfire & burn all my flamingo paraphernalia......

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:28:13 PM   
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My consumption level now is not all that high, and consists of beer that I consider light (Busch). It only runs about two or three percent alcohol. I also drink it slowly, and am used to it being not quite so cold.

Anyway, there is a possibility that beer is affecting me adversely, physically. How bad can that be ? Is beer one of those things you simply should not drink every day ? I mean even if it had no alcohol in it at all.

So the point is, is the beer hurting me physically ?


T, you're drinking Busch beer.

Yes, it's hurting you.  If you're going to drink beer, drink something better than what some people consider to be gnat piss.

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:29:31 PM   
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gnat piss?

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:30:35 PM   
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gnat piss?

cheap warm beer = gnat piss

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:31:48 PM   
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gnat piss?

cheap warm beer = gnat piss


takes a hellava lot of gnats.......just sayin'


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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:33:53 PM   
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quit hijackin' T's thread... this one's about HIM.

I was just giving him some epicurean advice on beer.

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:40:58 PM   
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quit hijackin' T's thread... this one's about HIM.

I was just giving him some epicurean advice on beer.


i think Pure just spanked me....


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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 12:59:23 PM   
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TErmy.. yes, beer is hurting you if youre drinking every day, and have been for a while. the alcohol, even if it's not as high content as the whiskey DOES still affect your liver.

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 1:33:42 PM   
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**Fast reply**

Term,

You are in much better shape than this guy... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080715/od_nm/beer_dc 
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SYDNEY (Reuters) - An Australian man convicted of his seventh drink-driving charge was spending about A$1,000 ($972) a week on beer -- enough to buy more than 2,500 small bottles a month, a newspaper said Tuesday.


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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 3:39:22 PM   
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Maybe it is time to cut down, but I have no desire to quit completely. ... So I thank you all for somehow collectively giving me this moment of introspection. But really, quitting everything and living the clean life is not for me. But perhaps some adjustments are in order.

Excuses. Reservations. It is the addiction talking. Stop lying to yourself, T. You have got a life threatening problem. Face it.

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Like smoking, I am cutting down

It is not the same. Smoking may kill you 25 years from now. Alcoholism on the other hand you perceive as imminently lethal - and you may well be right. Anyway, Zyban will remove the nicotine addiction. (But do consult your physician about that.)
 
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My problem is finding something else to drink. I can cut down easily, but I will have to buy bottled water as I am not drinking tap water

Of course, your nutty USA countrymen chlorinate the drinking water. You might as well drink toilet cleaner (I am not serious, merely exaggerating). That does pose a problem. Is it possible for you to collect rain water?

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So the point is, is the beer hurting me physically ?

Yes. It weakens and may even dissolve the cell membrane, the barrier between the inside and the outside of the cell. Cells may die because of that. The cell membrane is extremely important in countless biochemical functions, as for example the action potentials of nerve cells and muscle cells - causing your intellectual prowess and muscle prowess to be below their optimum level when impaired by alcohol. Also alcohol may engage in biochemical reactions and thus mess with your biochemistry. You already noted your digestive tract problems. Your blood is probably acidic and that is bad. It may be that your teeth are rotting away, not because of bacteria, but because your saliva may also be acidic. Then there are the other organs... You also may have vitamin deficiencies.

You cannot beat this on your own, T. Get yourself to a physician. Go to AA-meetings. Get religious. Do whatever it takes to face this. And do not blame yourself. According to my hypothesis some people are born with the proclivity for addictions. It is possible though to abstain. Others have done so - and so can you.


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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 4:40:58 PM   
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Upon reconsideration, these addictive craving hypothetically might be applied to a beneficial purpose. Are you in for an experiment, T? If so, mail me on the other side.

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 4:50:09 PM   
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here lays another lost, pathetic soul ...may the Creator have mercy on it




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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 5:41:34 PM   
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Termyn8or:

FYI: Tap water in almost all places goes through more strict filtration processes than bottled water. And falls under higher standards and regulations than bottled water.

If you want to avoid tap water AND freaking killing the earth..... why don't you friggin buy one of those brita attachments for your sink??? I plan on procreating, just cause you think you are going to die before that type of waste affects people (though it already is), doesn't mean there won't still be SOME of us here, alive, dealing with it.

Useful link:

http://tinyurl.com/6zg7fk

Also... I didn't get those requests to be of some use on the other side yet.

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RE: When I die. - 7/16/2008 8:20:36 PM   
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OK, in order starting frommy last post.

lil, well it is good to be looked after that way. The flamingos, sorry but I just don't care.

pure, if it's gnat piss, wouldn't that mean that it is thin and full of water ? If beer is actually hurting me psysically, a thicker beer would have more in it that is harmfulno ?

GT, I don't think I have liver problems. My digestive problems come and go, and if my liver was spent it should always be bad. But that does not mean the other ingredients in it are good for me.

Thad, a grand a week, that's a real die hard, and I'd bet he ain't drinking Busch either. I'd bet my liver looks fine compared to his.

Rule, I will have to look into it, but I do not go to doctors, groups, none of it. If it proves to be the problem, then I will take steps to abate or eliminate it. I don't need any of that. Hell, I usually dread even asking someone for a cigarette, let alone help on something that I should be able to handle myself. I have been away from those "professionals" for a long time now, and I ain't going back, even if it means my life. But again, that does not mean that certain adjustments are not in order.

And Rule, that is the only way I would "beat" anything. On my own. Hard drugs and whiskey, I never quit them. I just don't want them. As someone who knows things, I know I will never stop doing anything until I want to. But I will not quit. I simply stop. I have not been conditioned to need professional help, and I think in alot of cases it is not needed, and in today's day and age it amounts to paying a hundred bucks an hour for a pill pusher.

My system is slightly acidic, but my teeth are fine.

sambas, indeed. There is a whole lot of shit that I do not care about because I simply can't, there is no room in my mind for it.

Nik, I appreciate the response and possible even concern, but there is no way I am hitting that tap for water. A brita does not remove flouridation. There are a few other things as well.

More later, right now I got people here.

T

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