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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/25/2008 7:06:39 PM   
pinnipedster


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

First of all, I'm a little confused by your terminology.  Why wouldn't there be a relationship involved with a sub?  I don't know many Dominants who say, "Oh, he's just a sub" when it is someone that they care about.  Are you asking about a primary relationship vrs a D/s dynamic?


I guess "primary" is what I mean.  What I mean is, I see a fair number of profiles of women who are already married or otherwise paired up, but still looking for someone else: possibly just a play partner, but sometimes a full-time submissive.  While I might enjoy that situation, it would not fulfill *all* my needs.  As I think I said, the ideal situation would be finding someone who is attractive and attracted to me, who can fulfill all the roles one's mate is normally supposed to fill emotionally, but who also happens to be kinky.  I don't mean it necessarily has to be a completely exclusive relationship, at least kink-wise, but I would want us to be an "us," if you see what I mean.

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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/25/2008 7:20:48 PM   
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First, it's unclear to me what you feel you have to offer the woman you'd like to meet.


Sadly, it's somewhat unclear to me too.  That is, I think I am a perfectly fine person in a lot of ways, but if someone is looking for a list of skills or resources I bring to the table, I'm not sure what I can come up with.   I communicate well, can learn fast, and have a good sense of humor, and I'm told I give a pretty decent foot massage, but that's about it.  I think I have a good attitude for a sub, generally speaking. 


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Where I think you're biggest difficulty is going to exist is that you're a crossdresser, which is clearly something that's important to you as I read your profile, although it's apparently not a daily or perhaps even a weekly need.  Crossdressers have a reputation among many dommes for things needing to be "all about the crossdresser" and not the domme, which creates an inherent conflict within a typical D/s dynamic.  Strike one against you so to speak.  That said, there are many dommes who also enjoy that kind of play in moderation.  In that sense, you'd clearly fit the bill.


I'm well aware of the difficulties there, but I also know that if a particular woman can't accept that aspect of me, there's no point in trying to build anything with her.  I'm very flexible about how it can fit into the relationship -- it doesn't have to be in the forced femme/sissy maid mode (though I am open to that), it doesn't have to be frequent, it doesn't necessarily have to come into the bedroom/dungeon at all, though I would prefer it.  But I cou ldn't love anyone who didn't accept, and preferably embrace that side of me.
 
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Where things really seemed to fall apart for me though, was that your profile got very "wishy washy" near the end as to what you were actually looking for.  On one hand you're here posting that you want an LTR, yet in your profile you mention your openess to trying spending time with a switch, dominant couples, or even single men!  I strongly suspect, that's going to be a turn-off to the vast majority of dommes who are also looking for a LTR!  So, in posting that as part of you're profile, you've just put off perhaps 75% of your potential audience.  As such, it doesn't seem to me as though you're being clear on exactly what it is that you really want!  If I were a domme and I read your profile, I'd likely walk away and say "this guy seems rather confused and I don't know that I'd want to get involved!"[/quote[

Hmmm.  I will take a look at that part again and perhaps rephrase it, but I thought it was simple enough.  Yes, I want a LTR.  However, it's possible that finding the right person could take a great deal of time.  In the meantime, I am open to other possibilities for more casual or short-term enjoyment -- partially in the hope that getting to know more people will lead to other things, but partly just because it can be fun and fulfilling, hopefully for all involved.  I don't want someone reading it who thinks I might be fun to play with but isn't interested in a romantic relationship with me to write me off on the basis that I want all or nothing.  Does that make any sense?
 
There are many threads if you use the search function that have been written with suggestions on how to write a good profile.  You may want to spend some time reading some of them.  It's generally clear to me that the majority of women here, are indeed looking for a compatible partner for an LTR!  They all just seem to approach it in different ways.
 
Although you didn't ask for a profile review, I hope you find this feedback helpful to you.
 
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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/26/2008 1:15:20 AM   
pixelslave


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ORIGINAL: pinnipedster

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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

First, it's unclear to me what you feel you have to offer the woman you'd like to meet.


Sadly, it's somewhat unclear to me too.  That is, I think I am a perfectly fine person in a lot of ways, but if someone is looking for a list of skills or resources I bring to the table, I'm not sure what I can come up with.   I communicate well, can learn fast, and have a good sense of humor, and I'm told I give a pretty decent foot massage, but that's about it.  I think I have a good attitude for a sub, generally speaking. 


 
Sounds to me like a good place to start pinnipedster!  Profiles are always a work in progress.  
 
Don't sell yourself short; every fisherman needs enough bait on their hook to get a nibble on the line so they can do the rest of what's needed to land the one that's worth catching.  Perhaps if you took the above, removed the extraneous portions and stated the rest with more confidence, you'd be showing the ladies that you do indeed bring something to the table you're aware of that is worthy of their consideration.  Being smart women, they'll soon figure out the rest on their own.
 
They don't need to see all of it at once, only enough to capture their interest.  I'd venture that you have other skills as well that might be valuable to them.  Do you cook?  Are you handy around the house or mechanically inclined?  Do you know how to manage the bills on the computer with say Quicken and set things up for the bank to automatically pay them on time?  What things do you  like to do around the house or would enjoy doing for your Mistress/partner to make life easier?  Since you cross-dress, do you know how to do manicures and pedicures for example?  Just a few things that come to mind as possible thought starters to help you that you may have overlooked.  Remember, whether you like the idea or not, your profile is the primary means you have here to market yourself and that's the first place a woman will look to see if there's mutual compatibility and to determine if she has an interest in having a further dialogue with you.  Time spent working on your profile to refine it (like a resume when you're searching for a job), although often difficult, is well worth the extra effort!
 
You've been around here long enough to see the threads from women who want a man with some self-confidence; one that brings something with them that adds to their life, not detracts from it.  You can choose to display more of that in your profile without appearing as though you're being cocky; particularly as a strong sense of self-assurance often doesn't come across in your posts when you're being reflective such as you are in this thread.  They'll see the balance once you begin to correspond to with them, you just need to get them interested in talking with you first. 

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Where I think you're biggest difficulty is going to exist is that you're a crossdresser, which is clearly something that's important to you as I read your profile, although it's apparently not a daily or perhaps even a weekly need.  Crossdressers have a reputation among many dommes for things needing to be "all about the crossdresser" and not the domme, which creates an inherent conflict within a typical D/s dynamic.  Strike one against you so to speak.  That said, there are many dommes who also enjoy that kind of play in moderation.  In that sense, you'd clearly fit the bill.


I'm well aware of the difficulties there, but I also know that if a particular woman can't accept that aspect of me, there's no point in trying to build anything with her.  I'm very flexible about how it can fit into the relationship -- it doesn't have to be in the forced femme/sissy maid mode (though I am open to that), it doesn't have to be frequent, it doesn't necessarily have to come into the bedroom/dungeon at all, though I would prefer it.  But I cou ldn't love anyone who didn't accept, and preferably embrace that side of me.


I completely understand.  No one wants to spend the rest of their lives with a person who can't love and accept all of them.  You sound very flexible in getting your cross dressing needs satisfied.  I think your profile implies that, but perhaps you need to convey that as you did here.  I think that would go a long way towards easing the minds of any Dommes who've had bad experiences with cross-dressers, particularly the ones who couldn't focus on serving the dommes needs; especially if their prior relationships with them began to revolve around the cross-dresser's needs to dress for any and all activities.  From what you describe, I don't see that with you, making you one of the exceptions to what would be considered the rule.  As such, I think you need to emphasize that and let them know that they'd be in control of that aspect of your life and how it is expressed; at least from what you said, I assume they would wouldn't they? 
 
You hinted some at enjoying providing service to them; being at their feet to share time with them.  Going back to the part above about skills, what kind of service would you enjoy providing?  I'd consider that a skill or at the very least, an orientation that is focused outside one's self; not one that's solely based on your need to cross dress or that of a man who is looking for a woman to support and enable his fetish 24/7.  I hope you see the importance of the distinction I'm making.
 
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Where things really seemed to fall apart for me though, was that your profile got very "wishy washy" near the end as to what you were actually looking for.  On one hand you're here posting that you want an LTR, yet in your profile you mention your openess to trying spending time with a switch, dominant couples, or even single men!  I strongly suspect, that's going to be a turn-off to the vast majority of dommes who are also looking for a monogamous LTR!  So, in posting that as part of you're profile, you've just put off perhaps 75% of your potential audience.  As such, it doesn't seem to me as though you're being clear on exactly what it is that you really want!  If I were a domme and I read your profile, I'd likely walk away and say "this guy seems rather confused and I don't know that I'd want to get involved!"


Hmmm.  I will take a look at that part again and perhaps rephrase it, but I thought it was simple enough.  Yes, I want a LTR.  However, it's possible that finding the right person could take a great deal of time.  In the meantime, I am open to other possibilities for more casual or short-term enjoyment -- partially in the hope that getting to know more people will lead to other things, but partly just because it can be fun and fulfilling, hopefully for all involved.  I don't want someone reading it who thinks I might be fun to play with but isn't interested in a romantic relationship with me to write me off on the basis that I want all or nothing.  Does that make any sense?


Yes it does make sense my friend.  One can't sit around waiting for the right one to come along and fall into their lap.  Instead, they need to build a life for themselves which they enjoy; something I'll add which also includes "balance", not just BDSM.  Doing so will make you all the more attractive when you finally meet the Domme that you click with.  You might begin that part of your profile by saying you're also looking for friends in the lifestyle as regular play partners who share your interests, including x, y & z for activities such as a, b & c who understand and respect that your ultimate goal is to find a LTR with the right domme for you.  In that manner, you've opened doors to friends and creating other supportive relationships, without losing the focus of what your profile is here for.  In the area where you live, I'd expect there would be many local organizations you could get involved with to meet those same people as well, one that might even include the domme you'd like to meet.  You might want to take a look at BDSM: the local scene to see what organizations are in your area which might be of interest to you; thus getting you out and involved in your local communitty where you can meet people on a face-to-face basis and establish those friendships.
 
I hope this clarifies my original post and gives you additional thoughts to consider.  Feel free to message me on the other side any time you want if you'd like to discuss something In private.  I'm always open to trying to help those who seek additional insight they may not wish to post here.
 
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Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/27/2008 10:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

Yes, in my experience here and elsewhere it is genuinely feasible to search for an LTR both here and elsewhere.  Being open to possibilities and not rigid in your expectations is probably one of the keys.  I think Ms. Lockit was  very adept at explaining much of the process.  Since you want a relationship that's based more on the overall package than kink, you really need to focus on getting to know the woman as a person before you go there.  I've found that once the commonality is established, the kink usually seems to have a way of working itself out on it's own. 
 
Being willing to be flexible is essential.  Know what you Must have, what you'd Like to have, and what you'd consider a Bonus if you found it.  Also know what you Can't have or won't tolerate.  That allows you to really know what's most important to you in a relationship; thus opening many doors and possibilities for you that you may not have previously seen before.  You'll then begin to see far more opportunities than you ever realized existed.
 
Having read your profile, personally, I think it could use some work and that may be some of what might be causing you some difficulties in finding the woman you seek.  First, it's unclear to me what you feel you have to offer the woman you'd like to meet.  If you know that, I suggest you state it up front.  Remember, you're promoting yourself and trying to advertise what you have to offer in the most appealing manner.  You seem to do a good job of sharing your interests and revealing something of your personality.  Where I think you're biggest difficulty is going to exist is that you're a crossdresser, which is clearly something that's important to you as I read your profile, although it's apparently not a daily or perhaps even a weekly need.  Crossdressers have a reputation among many dommes for things needing to be "all about the crossdresser" and not the domme, which creates an inherent conflict within a typical D/s dynamic.  Strike one against you so to speak.  That said, there are many dommes who also enjoy that kind of play in moderation.  In that sense, you'd clearly fit the bill.
 
Where things really seemed to fall apart for me though, was that your profile got very "wishy washy" near the end as to what you were actually looking for.  On one hand you're here posting that you want an LTR, yet in your profile you mention your openess to trying spending time with a switch, dominant couples, or even single men!  I strongly suspect, that's going to be a turn-off to the vast majority of dommes who are also looking for a LTR!  So, in posting that as part of you're profile, you've just put off perhaps 75% of your potential audience.  As such, it doesn't seem to me as though you're being clear on exactly what it is that you really want!  If I were a domme and I read your profile, I'd likely walk away and say "this guy seems rather confused and I don't know that I'd want to get involved!"
 
There are many threads if you use the search function that have been written with suggestions on how to write a good profile.  You may want to spend some time reading some of them.  It's generally clear to me that the majority of women here, are indeed looking for a compatible partner for an LTR!  They all just seem to approach it in different ways.
 
Although you didn't ask for a profile review, I hope you find this feedback helpful to you.
 
 - pixel

 


Wow Pix, I don't think I could disagree much more. His profile is fabulous. It says who he is and personally I think that's the most important thing. If I am searching for a mate, I want to know who that person is first and foremost. And it's very clear that he's a crossdresser and not a Transvestite or Transsexual. Second, it says who he wants. That's the second thing I look at in a profile, am I possible what will make them tick. Then he closes with some practical talk about what he might enjoy for companionship. This shows me that he's not too narrowly focused to go out and enjoy life while he's looking for the MsPerfect. It also makes it very clear to people that he might chat with or even play with, that he'll enjoy their company but it's not what he ultimately desires. Dude, if life were different, I'd write to you.

So Pinni, to answer your questions I'll tell my story. I met my kevin on Kiss.com. It's a vanilla dating site. He was a crossdresser and knew that he was submissive to women and was at a stage in life when he was finally ready to embrace it say fuck it all and be happy. I had no clue I was a Dominant woman or what the fuck that is. I was just looking for some fun dates and that sexy feeling of going out and having a guy pine for me. He posted on Kiss.com cause he had no idea these other things existed. Yes, there really are kinky people out there that still have no idea that kinky people get together and form communities. Anyhow, his vanilla profile had a joke about one of his hobbies being wearing his girlfriends panties and I thought he was hilarious, which was top of my criteria. I had no idea how serious he was. BTW, he's no longer allowed to wear my panties. He has appropriate sissy and lotita panties, Mistress panties are for Mistresses. I took ownership of my kevin the day I met him. Within a few months I realized what I'd done and was moving him into my home. That was six very very happy years ago. He's my world and I am his Goddess.

Ironically, we both tell two very different story on how to find an LTR. He swears that you must have a plan and work the plan. He had rules for how many e-mails he would send out and what signs he had to see all sorts of things. It was a logical process for him. I had no idea. Me, I have always said that the only way to find love is to stop looking. I was not looking for my soul mate, the gods simply put him in my path. Apparently, both methods work.

Good luck on your journey. Your soul mate is out there and when the gods have decided that you are ready, they will show her to you.

Warmly,
MsJ 

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/27/2008 10:26:54 AM   
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Finding the 'total package' in one person is very difficult.  Speaking as a Married Domme looking for boy toys... I can only explain my personal situation.  Let's face it, we are all different!  I've been married for almost 22 years.  No sub is going to replace my husband.  Period.  But there are things that I enjoy that my husband does not.  Therefore, I look for 'extras' to fulfill those needs for me.  I don't care what label you stick on them, different people do different things for me.  I can't even find a submissive who could do everything.  Maybe a Switch could, but I'm not willing to start over at this point.

I am far from alone in my quest for that extra person to fulfill a need that is not provided by my significant other.  I have actually found more than one male who is happily married or in a relationship with wonderful, beautiful, sexy women who give them all the love they need... but those women can't provide the pain & domination that they crave.  I do that for them. 

It's just a matter of finding a good match to fill your personal needs.  You may not ever find ONE person who can do it all.   If and when you do, hold onto that person for dear life.


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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/27/2008 12:08:38 PM   
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First of all, I'm a little confused by your terminology.  Why wouldn't there be a relationship involved with a sub?  I don't know many Dominants who say, "Oh, he's just a sub" when it is someone that they care about.  Are you asking about a primary relationship vrs a D/s dynamic?


I guess "primary" is what I mean.  What I mean is, I see a fair number of profiles of women who are already married or otherwise paired up, but still looking for someone else: possibly just a play partner, but sometimes a full-time submissive.  While I might enjoy that situation, it would not fulfill *all* my needs.  As I think I said, the ideal situation would be finding someone who is attractive and attracted to me, who can fulfill all the roles one's mate is normally supposed to fill emotionally, but who also happens to be kinky.  I don't mean it necessarily has to be a completely exclusive relationship, at least kink-wise, but I would want us to be an "us," if you see what I mean.


That's perfectly understandable.  I think it's important for everyone to have a functioning idea of their needs and wants.

With that said, I hope you also see that others on the site may have different reasons for being here.  They have their own needs and wants.  There are a lot of us here who have no need to look for a primary relationship, since we already have one.  Some people aren't especially looking for anything, other than a good discussion from time to time.

I'm not saying that to discourage you.  I can think of several examples of people who have met their primary partner by using this site.  Just keep in mind that other people might not have the same reason to be here as you do.


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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/27/2008 10:29:55 PM   
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Wow Pix, I don't think I could disagree much more. His profile is fabulous. It says who he is and personally I think that's the most important thing. If I am searching for a mate, I want to know who that person is first and foremost. And it's very clear that he's a crossdresser and not a Transvestite or Transsexual. Second, it says who he wants. That's the second thing I look at in a profile, am I possible what will make them tick. Then he closes with some practical talk about what he might enjoy for companionship. This shows me that he's not too narrowly focused to go out and enjoy life while he's looking for the MsPerfect. It also makes it very clear to people that he might chat with or even play with, that he'll enjoy their company but it's not what he ultimately desires. Dude, if life were different, I'd write to you.



Ms J,
I'm glad you liked his profile and that it worked for you.  The OP posted saying things weren't working for him, thus asking for advice and questioning whether what he wanted could be found here at CM.  I simply gave him my advice, suggesting he build upon what he already had, clarifying it to hopefully attract the Domme of his dreams.  Like you, I felt I also understood where he was coming from, yet others might not, or may be put off by the way it was stated; thus the nature of my suggestions. 
 
He's free to take what he likes and ignore the rest, if not all of what I suggested.  We all come from different places and I fully understand and accept that.  After all, in a place like this, you get what you pay for.
 
In no manner was my post written with the intent to tell him that his current profile was unacceptable or "lame".  At the same time, it obviously wasn't getting him the results he wanted, thus the nature of my comments.
 
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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 2:42:56 AM   
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I'm looking for a relationship WITH a submissive ... he and I would be an "us" and we would share everyday things like shopping, chores, music, TV etc etc ... but he would have to accept that there is another "us" too ... that's myself and Master! And He and i also share things like shopping, chores, music, TV ... The way it would work out is that the 3 of us become a giant US ... a family that shares everyday things as well as kink, while both couples get some private time too. Is that so hard to find?

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 8:40:03 AM   
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Ms J,
I'm glad you liked his profile and that it worked for you.  The OP posted saying things weren't working for him, thus asking for advice and questioning whether what he wanted could be found here at CM.  I simply gave him my advice, suggesting he build upon what he already had, clarifying it to hopefully attract the Domme of his dreams.  Like you, I felt I also understood where he was coming from, yet others might not, or may be put off by the way it was stated; thus the nature of my suggestions. 
 
He's free to take what he likes and ignore the rest, if not all of what I suggested.  We all come from different places and I fully understand and accept that.  After all, in a place like this, you get what you pay for.
 
In no manner was my post written with the intent to tell him that his current profile was unacceptable or "lame".  At the same time, it obviously wasn't getting him the results he wanted, thus the nature of my comments.
 
 - pixel
 



pixel,
I am sorry if I was too harsh. I went back and read my post and realized that it might of been harsh when I had no intention of it being so. I have read your profile and some of your journals as well, and would same the same of yours. Quite wonderful, and in another world I would write to you and see where things lead. However, the original poster's profile has a bit more natural flow to it, it shows a man who's not afraid to be open. Yours has the feel of someone who will open up and be very real, when he's ready, but their may always be a bit of work on the part of the Mistress to get you there. Yours also talks more of what you want done to you and what you desire to do to her. His speaks for of the relationship that he desires. But the important factor is that both are written by intelligent, self-aware, men who are seeking love in a primary D/s relationship.

Now, I don't want to be presumptuous, and while I perused this tread, I did not read for detail, but I think that I am the only one that responded that actually fits the description of a woman that either of you two men desire... Except for that minor issue, I already found my soul mate. The point is, I believe that is the general issue at stake here, you outnumber us. Try for a second to do a search for yourself. Yeah, enter "sub, male, 30-55 years, straight seeking FemDomme" into the search field. Yikes. I can't go through them all!!  Now, do your regular search for FemDommes and then visually eliminate all those that have a husband/primary and are looking for a secondary. And it's no different on vanilla dating sites. Men outnumber women at least 10 to 1. Maybe it's the nature of the hunt. We're brought up being taught that men hunt and women lead them on. I don't know. But added to the general problem with outnumbering us is that most of the men out there are just looking to jack off in cyber sex. You ar tainted by them. I am sorry, but it's true. I know when I write a girl that I have to really stand out because she sees my e-mail and it's one in a hundred she got that week and she reads it first for signs that I'm just a guy trying to jack off. If I pass that test then she might set in aside to reply to later. But then I"m lost in the ruble. But who I am to give advice on how to find someone here on CollarMe. I'm getting really tired of girls who are ready to give their life to me, until I offer to buy them plane tickets for the first meet. Suddenly, they disappear. What The Fuck!! Where are the grown ups?

MsJ

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 9:15:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MsJssk

pixel,
I am sorry if I was too harsh. I went back and read my post and realized that it might of been harsh when I had no intention of it being so. I have read your profile and some of your journals as well, and would same the same of yours.


No need to be sorry MsJ, everyone has different tastes and styles; they're all entitled to their opinions.  Thank you for reading my profile and the compliments.
 
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Yours has the feel of someone who will open up and be very real, when he's ready, but their may always be a bit of work on the part of the Mistress to get you there.


As you have a vanilla cone, you've likely not read the 1200 plus posts I've contributed to these boards where I've quite often been very open about myself and my life.  As such, I can understand why you might draw the conclusions you have from reading my profile alone.  My profile hasn't been updated in some time; certainly not since the last relationship I had with a domme I met here on CM.  As such, some editing is admittedly overdue.  Most, gain some insight into who I am and get to know more of me through my posts here or my participation in various organizations in the DFW leather community.
 
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you outnumber us. Try for a second to do a search for yourself. Yeah, enter "sub, male, 30-55 years, straight seeking FemDomme" into the search field. Yikes. I can't go through them all!!  Now, do your regular search for FemDommes and then visually eliminate all those that have a husband/primary and are looking for a secondary. And it's no different on vanilla dating sites. Men outnumber women at least 10 to 1. Maybe it's the nature of the hunt. We're brought up being taught that men hunt and women lead them on. I don't know. But added to the general problem with outnumbering us is that most of the men out there are just looking to jack off in cyber sex. You ar tainted by them. I am sorry, but it's true. I know when I write a girl that I have to really stand out because she sees my e-mail and it's one in a hundred she got that week and she reads it first for signs that I'm just a guy trying to jack off. If I pass that test then she might set in aside to reply to later. But then I"m lost in the rubble. But who I am to give advice on how to find someone here on CollarMe. I'm getting really tired of girls who are ready to give their life to me, until I offer to buy them plane tickets for the first meet. Suddenly, they disappear. What The Fuck!! Where are the grown ups?

MsJ


I'm well aware of that which you speak MsJ.  As you've noted there are indeed many GNC's (an acronym used here for horny net geeks who aren't actually submissives in the lifestyle, but have their own agendas for kinky sex).  It's also common for people to suddenly disappear.  I also know the signal to noise ratio is high and that many are poly which is not what I seek, reducing my options.  Yet, I have many friends who are dommes on these boards and find that I do not lack for opportunities.  I've simply not found the right fit for me as of this moment, but am discovering that by being flexible, there are indeed women with whom there are possibilities.
 
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
 
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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 9:43:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave
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As you have a vanilla cone, you've likely not read the 1200 plus posts I've contributed to these boards where I've quite often been very open about myself and my life.  As such, I can understand why you might draw the conclusions you have from reading my profile alone.  My profile hasn't been updated in some time; certainly not since the last relationship I had with a domme I met here on CM.  As such, some editing is admittedly overdue.  Most, gain some insight into who I am and get to know more of me through my posts here or my participation in various organizations in the DFW leather community.
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 - pixel
 


pixel,
I think you misunderstand me when I talk about openness. Your profile and journals are warm and honest and sincere. But there is a heart on sleave factor that you carefully guard. It's an appropriate boundary and one that I respect and appreciate in my friends. It's seen in the tone and writing style and in the real world it can be counted in the depth of a gaze. Someone can share all that their is to share about their life, and still not open his soul except to those he values most. My impression, when I read just the two profiles, is that one will open his soul a bit easier than the other.

And I see that you have read my profile. May I have the priledge of the same critique or commentary that you offered our original poster and that I so uninvitedly offer you.

Warmly,
MsJ

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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/28/2008 10:44:36 AM   
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If someone is a part of my life in some way then I have some sort of relationship with them. The type of relationships varies as greatly as the types of people.

Am I looking for another romantic, mushy, lovey (gaggggg) type relationship? NO!

That does not mean I will not care about my slave/s because I definately would. I may even come to love them. I just do not foresee it being a romantic type love.


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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 5:42:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsJssk

Someone can share all that their is to share about their life, and still not open his soul except to those he values most. My impression, when I read just the two profiles, is that one will open his soul a bit easier than the other.


I understand what you're saying ma'am.  Some women come equipped with more powerful soul openers than others.


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And I see that you have read my profile. May I have the priledge of the same critique or commentary that you offered our original poster and that I so uninvitedly offer you.

Warmly,
MsJ


I did indeed briefly look at your profile to see whom it was that I was exchanging posts with.  I'm very uncomfortable providing feedback on a domme's profile; in my experience a no-win situation for a submissive to be in around this particular forum.  Of more importance, I genuinely wouldn't want to hijaak the OP's thread.
 
 - pixel
 


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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 9:58:49 PM   
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MsJssk, I have read your posts to pixelslave and find that I must address a couple of things. pixel is a well known poster on these boards and has proven himself to be one of a very sensitive nature, with an openness that is refreshing and thought provoking. He does not open himself to just anyone and I don't believe that anyone should. But I have found no hesitancy on his part to bear his soul to me, nor anything else that one would assume/expect or require from either a man or a submissive. He is not more work than others I have known, and in fact is much easier as he willingly goes to those loving and soul bearing places. I am sure that if you had been here longer, you would have seen what most of us see in pixel and understand how condescending some of what you said to him might be perceived by him or anyone that knows him.

I didn't wish to call you out or start anything, but since pixel has been evaluated in emotional matters of the heart in a public setting, I felt as one who cares a great deal for him, that he should have the benefit of someone setting things straight. He would never do so himself, although he would graciously address some things and overlook others. He can be rather modest.

You might have been the only responder on the thread that you seemingly felt was suitable for pixel and the man who started the thread; but not all of us are posting about our interest and are communicating behind the scenes. I don't see how it is that you deemed the rest of us somehow unfit for them, since you don't know us at all.

I regret I feel the need to address this publicly, however, since your posts were so public and in my opinion rather condescending and pointedly critical about someone you do not know, I felt the need to relieve myself and clearly state that pixel is not how you have critiqued him to be. pixel is open, loving, generous, kind, tactful, intelligent and much, much more and to hear him being presented as less, is difficult to witness and refrain from commenting on.

I will not try to quote the many things posted, as the posts were very long and trying to present it all or dissect it would be a difficult thing to fairly accomplish.

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 10:03:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pixelslave

MsJ


I did indeed briefly look at your profile to see whom it was that I was exchanging posts with.  I'm very uncomfortable providing feedback on a domme's profile; in my experience a no-win situation for a submissive to be in around this particular forum.  Of more importance, I genuinely wouldn't want to hijaak the OP's thread.
 
 - pixel
 



I appreciate your position and I apologize for my lack of knowledge in forum etiquette.

MsJ

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/28/2008 10:21:18 PM   
MsJssk


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit


MsJssk, I have read your posts to pixelslave and find that I must address a couple of things. pixel is a well known poster on these boards and has proven himself to be one of a very sensitive nature, with an openness that is refreshing and thought provoking. He does not open himself to just anyone and I don't believe that anyone should. But I have found no hesitancy on his part to bear his soul to me, nor anything else that one would assume/expect or require from either a man or a submissive. He is not more work than others I have known, and in fact is much easier as he willingly goes to those loving and soul bearing places. I am sure that if you had been here longer, you would have seen what most of us see in pixel and understand how condescending some of what you said to him might be perceived by him or anyone that knows him.

I didn't wish to call you out or start anything, but since pixel has been evaluated in emotional matters of the heart in a public setting, I felt as one who cares a great deal for him, that he should have the benefit of someone setting things straight. He would never do so himself, although he would graciously address some things and overlook others. He can be rather modest.

You might have been the only responder on the thread that you seemingly felt was suitable for pixel and the man who started the thread; but not all of us are posting about our interest and are communicating behind the scenes. I don't see how it is that you deemed the rest of us somehow unfit for them, since you don't know us at all.

I regret I feel the need to address this publicly, however, since your posts were so public and in my opinion rather condescending and pointedly critical about someone you do not know, I felt the need to relieve myself and clearly state that pixel is not how you have critiqued him to be. pixel is open, loving, generous, kind, tactful, intelligent and much, much more and to hear him being presented as less, is difficult to witness and refrain from commenting on.

I will not try to quote the many things posted, as the posts were very long and trying to present it all or dissect it would be a difficult thing to fairly accomplish.



I deeply apologize for appearing condescending. It was not at all the tone I had hoped to express. I actually consider myself to be less open that many and consider it a strong quality. In fact, you in your description of him say that he does not bear his soul for just anyone. I agree with you completely, people do not need to open themselves up for just anyone. Perhaps, if I were more open about my own preferences and feelings then my attraction to the particular quality would have been obvious.  I must make a point of saying that I have not said one thing about pixel that was critical of him, in fact, I have paid him many compliments. If I call someone's hair brown and he believes it to be more of a dark blond, does that make my observation critical. It is only critical if brown hair is ugly. Had I known that openness was a virtue and the lack of it a criticism then I would have kept my initial impression to myself and never mentioned it. Apparently, I made the situation even more convoluted by thinking that my word choice was misunderstood. You see, never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that wearing one's heart on their sleeve for all to see was a positive quality to be sought after. Had I know that boundaries were shunned I would have never compared the level of openness verses boundaries between the two very delightful and charming men. My humblest apologies.

MsJ

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/29/2008 12:59:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsJssk

Ironically, we both tell two very different story on how to find an LTR. He swears that you must have a plan and work the plan. He had rules for how many e-mails he would send out and what signs he had to see all sorts of things. It was a logical process for him. I had no idea. Me, I have always said that the only way to find love is to stop looking. I was not looking for my soul mate, the gods simply put him in my path. Apparently, both methods work.



Sorry about threadjacking, I've just seen this kind of a comment way too many times.

And I don't find this at all surprising. After all, it just shows how most heterosexual relationships are formed in our world. For some reason most male friends have had a hand a trying quite a lot in finding their mates, while the female friends say that the best ones they found when they stopped looking, i.e. they stopped and let themselves open to being courted. It's quite traditional courting behavior for men (and a reason why I partly stopped obeying dating suggestions from women - I still listen, but all the time remembering the gender distorted view they have on the subject).

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RE: Good Profile and how I found my soul mate - 7/29/2008 5:36:23 PM   
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Since Lockit has already defended Pixel's honor, I'll keep my mouth shut on that score.

To the OP... If an LTR is what you want, you've already got some good responses.

I chimed in because I AM a single Domme, no husband, no boyfriend, no significant other.  I do, however, have a pet that any other man would have to understand as I have no intentions of giving him up before the two of us are done in our M/s journey.
My pet and I already know that we are not a romantic match, and both of us are open to that possibility with other people.

This example is just made to give you something else to think about as far as existing dynamics are concerned.

Happy hunting,
Lady Jag




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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/30/2008 7:34:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pinnipedster

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

First of all, I'm a little confused by your terminology.  Why wouldn't there be a relationship involved with a sub?  I don't know many Dominants who say, "Oh, he's just a sub" when it is someone that they care about.  Are you asking about a primary relationship vrs a D/s dynamic?


I guess "primary" is what I mean.  What I mean is, I see a fair number of profiles of women who are already married or otherwise paired up, but still looking for someone else: possibly just a play partner, but sometimes a full-time submissive.  While I might enjoy that situation, it would not fulfill *all* my needs.  As I think I said, the ideal situation would be finding someone who is attractive and attracted to me, who can fulfill all the roles one's mate is normally supposed to fill emotionally, but who also happens to be kinky.  I don't mean it necessarily has to be a completely exclusive relationship, at least kink-wise, but I would want us to be an "us," if you see what I mean.



I have a strong opinion on some of this so here goes. The terminology or semanics of primary, secondary, etc are not standardized.  In fact as I experience poly more I question the entire notion of primary and secondary anyhow.  Your wording was what you know and it was not unclear.  You indicated a desire for LTR that includes romance with a kinky woman - but imo that does not nessessarily mean primary which indicates a heirarchy of sorts.  I would hate for you to go about thinking you are looking for a primary when that is just a term loaded with lots of various meanings.

< Message edited by ocilla -- 7/30/2008 7:42:23 AM >


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RE: Are you looking for a relationship, or just a sub? - 7/30/2008 7:50:31 AM   
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Oh yeah and to be counted - I am open to poly but I am seeking the same as you a long term life time romantic companion who is kinda kinky.  And poly comes into it if we decide together that it is right for our relationship but that cannot be determined until I am in a relationship with a special fella.

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