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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 6:49:20 AM   
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clearly your needs are not being met -- so now you can decide what you want to do from here...

this: "every Dominant that I have encountered has treated me like a piece of meat" 
 
is very telling... you're the common denominator in this statement and so I'd suggest you change your pattern and try to make some better choices...

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 6:59:27 AM   
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Well # 1 I am not his slave and after all these many months I feel I deserve something more, than an inappropriate answer. and he only visits when it's conveinient for him, per usual. My feelings are never taken in consideration, ever.
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ORIGINAL: mypain56

my instant reaction here is - why do you want to even be His, if:

1. He only visits when it is convenient for Him.
2. Your feelings are never taken into consideration.
3. He obviously does not want you to be a part of His rt life.
4 He might be married.

This has simply been online - and phone, maybe? And when you got the chance to move closer, it was not really something He had ever taken into consideration or wanted. As to meet His family - who says He has to introduce You as His slave (especially when you emphasize you are not) - He could as easily introduce You as a girlfriend - Your "kink" side, if you may - does not even need to be visible for others than you and Him...you also stated that all Doms treat you like  piece of meat. Well, you are the enabler - this you have to change withn yourself. Hold back a bit on the i adore You and love You part - take it step by step - discuss your needs and wants and find out if they are compatible with His...and GOOD LUCK....s....


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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 7:17:06 AM   
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For me, a slave is my slave they are not my boyfriend, not my lover, not partner, etc  they are my slave.  I don't want a spouse, etc, they know this going in and it will not change.  Maybe he sees you the same way and you just need to talk with him and find out.  Of course in my case you may meet some of my family if they came for a visit or something like that since I don't live near them, but even in that case you would be introduced as my slave to them.  Maybe he is not out to his family or feels it would be too much to explain to the two small kids that live with he.  Either way it's time to ask him.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 7:43:36 AM   
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Because he likes having a "whore" a "baby girl" and a "piece of meat" all rolled into one at his beck and call?  It's a sex fantasy, not one that usually leads to marriage.

Geez, if you don't want to be treated like a piece of meat, stop being one. 

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 8:00:15 AM   
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Please, I really am confused here, that is why I am coming to a Master too ask this very important question. I have been loyal, devoted, faithful, obiedient, for 8 months now. For reasons I could not control, I was able to move closer to him. But honestly not because of him. I am running from a very bad relationship,and the person in was in jail up till a few months ago.The Dominant I have been seeing for 8 months, mentioned all the opportunities that they had in his home town which I admit there are many. so needing to run before my abuser got out of jail I moved away. My Dominant had me under consideration for the last 8 months, just recently lifting it. And now he would like to collar me. The problem is that I am having is that, do most Dominants keep there submissives a secret and away from the family. He has two grown daughters, and is divorced and has been for 15 years. I haven't met his daughters yet or his two grandchildren which live with him. Please tell me if I am being stupid here. I have asked him and he came up with this lame answer. Like what do you want me too do hire a sky writer saying your my slave. Well # 1 I am not his slave and after all these many months I feel I deserve something more, than an inappropriate answer. and he only visits when it's conveinient for him, per usual. My feelings are never taken in consideration, ever. But are they suppose to be, every Dominant that I have encountered has treated me like a piece of meat, I am a person too. why are they so selfish. I serve him,  I honor him, I worship him, and I am in Love with him and he knows all these things and he tells me what a great whore I am and that I am Daddy's babygirl. He's never had to punish me for anything, I do nothing without permission. I told him last week that I was In Love with him, and his reply was OK, well it takes me a little longer but I'll come around. I honestly didn't expect him to tell me the same thing, I just want to be a little more a part of his life. That's all like take me out to dinner once a month, or for a drink, something. Thursday's my Birthday, and I can be certain that it will not be remembered. So, should I remind him. or keep my mouth shut. Please help me....... should I ask to be released now before it gets worse.
 
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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 9:10:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mypain56

Please, I really am confused here, that is why I am coming to a Master too ask this very important question. I have been loyal, devoted, faithful, obiedient, for 8 months now. For reasons I could not control, I was able to move closer to him. But honestly not because of him. I am running from a very bad relationship,and the person in was in jail up till a few months ago.The Dominant I have been seeing for 8 months, mentioned all the opportunities that they had in his home town which I admit there are many. so needing to run before my abuser got out of jail I moved away. My Dominant had me under consideration for the last 8 months, just recently lifting it. And now he would like to collar me. The problem is that I am having is that, do most Dominants keep there submissives a secret and away from the family. He has two grown daughters, and is divorced and has been for 15 years. I haven't met his daughters yet or his two grandchildren which live with him. Please tell me if I am being stupid here. I have asked him and he came up with this lame answer. Like what do you want me too do hire a sky writer saying your my slave. Well # 1 I am not his slave and after all these many months I feel I deserve something more, than an inappropriate answer. and he only visits when it's conveinient for him, per usual. My feelings are never taken in consideration, ever. But are they suppose to be, every Dominant that I have encountered has treated me like a piece of meat, I am a person too. why are they so selfish. I serve him,  I honor him, I worship him, and I am in Love with him and he knows all these things and he tells me what a great whore I am and that I am Daddy's babygirl. He's never had to punish me for anything, I do nothing without permission. I told him last week that I was In Love with him, and his reply was OK, well it takes me a little longer but I'll come around. I honestly didn't expect him to tell me the same thing, I just want to be a little more a part of his life. That's all like take me out to dinner once a month, or for a drink, something. Thursday's my Birthday, and I can be certain that it will not be remembered. So, should I remind him. or keep my mouth shut. Please help me....... should I ask to be released now before it gets worse.
 
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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 9:14:59 AM   
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quote:

every Dominant that I have encountered has treated me like a piece of meat,


why do you think that is?

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 10:10:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mypain56
I haven't met his daughters yet or his two grandchildren which live with him. Please tell me if I am being stupid here. I have asked him and he came up with this lame answer. Like what do you want me too do hire a sky writer saying your my slave.
 
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We both had children from previous relationships, and we did not introduce them for over a year.  Firstly we were comfortable with progressing with the relationship, secondly, we wanted to maintain a controlled method of introducing each other's children, step family dynamics can be a nightmare!

All I hear in your posts is about what you want... what about what he wants?  Have you considered that?  Maybe he isn't as in to you as you are to him, maybe his children are not ready to meet someone he is romoantically involved with, there are a million maybes.

Of course he only visits when it is convenient for him, he isn't going to come when it isn't.

If every dominant treats you like a piece of meat, and you are the only common factor, maybe it is something that you are doing to encourage that.  Personal I suspect you are feeling sorry for yourself and just negging out.

This situation isn't about him keeping you out of his life, it is about your insecurities, and perhaps that is what is keeping you out of his life, your actions.  Think about it.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 10:52:32 AM   
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if you have been abused in the past, you need a Dominant that will make you overcome those problems or this relationship with your Dom may not be successful.  Running from one abusive relationship to this one, where you feel like you aren't getting enough attention and being used - its not very stable and will not last long if you don't fight your insecurities and TALK to your Dom about them.

Just because He is not treating you like his girl friend does not mean this is another abusive relationship, if that is what you are thinking.  What exactly is making this relationship bad?  Because He does not take you out on dates?  Because He does not love you?  Because you have not met His family?

Are you really in love with Him for who He is or are just in love with being in love?

Quite honestly, you think way too much about your needs to be in a Master-slave relationship and that is why you should leave and take some time for yourself.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 10:58:46 AM   
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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 1:16:58 PM   
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I don't know what to tell you, beyond a few considerations.  It is possible that he has another relationship and doesn't want his two worlds to collide.  It is possible that he's a private, closed-off person, uncomfortable with having you meet his family or having them meet you.  We don't always know the reasons that people keep secrets.  If you feel like your needs are not being met, leave the relationship.  If you are tired of being a secret, see if you can change that, or leave.  You do not have to request a release, some say there are 50 ways.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 1:56:20 PM   
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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 2:41:56 PM   
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You listed about 50 things he does to treat you badly that you can clearly articulate and that you feel bad about. He is obviously a huge jerk who you should break up with and avoid clones of in the future.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 3:05:44 PM   
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You may care deeply about him but he is not obligated to view you the same way. It seems obvious that for him, you're a booty call, not someone to love and take out on her birthday. If being this is okay with you, continue the relationship. If it isn't, draw some boundaries to get your needs met.

And next time, make your needs clear upfront.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 3:55:00 PM   
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I actually suspected Sir of being married during a period of time that we were together, mainly because we had two phone calls at the same time every week on a Wednesday and Saturday. I wasnt allowed to call unless it was for an emergency, and even Getting to a point where I could call had taken a while. So.. emotionally, I kept my distance for a bit until I get figure it out. I thought it was possible that his roommate was really someone else. This minor suspicion continued even when I met him for the first time mainly because he told me his roomy was a asshole and he didnt want me around that - so we met at a family members house.

Took a while for the feeling to go away.

Though now that we've been seeing each other more often and overall been spending more time together, I havent thought about it since.

As for the subject at hand, you need to have a talk with him. A Real talk, a talk where he needs to quell your concerns with consideration rather than brushing it off. When you hide your feelings, you hide the truth - and even if he may think your concerns or worries are petty, these are Real feelings and emotions and simply as someone that Cares, he should be addressing these feelings with assurance And explanation. Do some digging and find out the real reason Why, then decide if its reasonable.


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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 4:16:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mypain56

Please, I really am confused here, that is why I am coming to a Master too ask this very important question. I have been loyal, devoted, faithful, obiedient, for 8 months now. For reasons I could not control, I was able to move closer to him. But honestly not because of him. I am running from a very bad relationship,and the person in was in jail up till a few months ago.The Dominant I have been seeing for 8 months, mentioned all the opportunities that they had in his home town which I admit there are many. so needing to run before my abuser got out of jail I moved away. My Dominant had me under consideration for the last 8 months, just recently lifting it. And now he would like to collar me. The problem is that I am having is that, do most Dominants keep there submissives a secret and away from the family. He has two grown daughters, and is divorced and has been for 15 years. I haven't met his daughters yet or his two grandchildren which live with him. Please tell me if I am being stupid here. I have asked him and he came up with this lame answer. Like what do you want me too do hire a sky writer saying your my slave. Well # 1 I am not his slave and after all these many months I feel I deserve something more, than an inappropriate answer. and he only visits when it's conveinient for him, per usual. My feelings are never taken in consideration, ever. But are they suppose to be, every Dominant that I have encountered has treated me like a piece of meat, I am a person too. why are they so selfish. I serve him,  I honor him, I worship him, and I am in Love with him and he knows all these things and he tells me what a great whore I am and that I am Daddy's babygirl. He's never had to punish me for anything, I do nothing without permission. I told him last week that I was In Love with him, and his reply was OK, well it takes me a little longer but I'll come around. I honestly didn't expect him to tell me the same thing, I just want to be a little more a part of his life. That's all like take me out to dinner once a month, or for a drink, something. Thursday's my Birthday, and I can be certain that it will not be remembered. So, should I remind him. or keep my mouth shut. Please help me....... should I ask to be released now before it gets worse.
 
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Wow. Here's the thing...

This life - and the involvement of you with his family - is not a balance sheet. You don't get to tab off everything you do with the idea that if you do enough, he'll introduce you. His family is not your reward for being good for crying out loud!

I had Dominants who would routinely express all you're saying to me back when I was looking. I'll tell you exactly what I told them.

"If you make demands on me to introduce my family to you before I'm ready, you can keep on walking. My family is not a part of our relationship and I do NOT parade the new men in my life in front of them like my first crush. There is not one thing you can do to "prove yourself" or "earn" your way into my family. My job - my SOLE job is to keep them safe and until I feel they are with whomever I go out with, they are never ever part of the equation. This means that my willingness to have you meet my family comes from inside ME - and not according to any time schedule you may have."

I walked away from PLENTY of men. I often heard "If any submissive of MINE told me I couldn't come to her house when we've already been going out for MONTHS, I'm walking away from her." And my response was "do it now. Cause not one dominant is in charge of my children - ever." Thankfully, they did.

It took my Master TWO YEARS to meet my immediate family members. On that day, he met the males in my family for all of 30 minutes. That was it... for.. about another year. The following year, he met my parents - we were both ready for that by then. He didn't demand it. We happened to be going somewhere out my way and I was having car problems. He suggested that he meet me at my house to pick me up. I was at my folks. *I* suggested meeting me there. He would NEVER presume to tell me who of my family he was going to meet - no matter HOW long we'd been going out. They are MY family. About 3 weeks later, he met my female famil member for the first time - for 15 minutes. That was it.

Since then, he's seen them a smattering of times - mostly for minutes here and there. He doesn't push and I don't force the issue. Since that time, he knows he's invited to family functions. He more often than not, declines. I don't push. I don't make excuses to my family and he doesn't make excuses to me. When he does things like spend time with my family, it'll be cause he chooses to and I choose for him to - not because either of us is forcing the issue.

OP, your submission to him is not a balance sheet. You can't give 50 dollars and expect change. His family is his family and when he's ready, he'll introduce them. If this is not acceptable to you, then, like the men in my life before my Master, God gave you feet and a brain. If this isn't good enough for you, then make a decision with one and take action with the other. And if you're not going to leave the situation you're in, then quit complaining and recognize that his family is not your prize for being a "good girl."

Those folks are his family - that's it. That's all.

juliet

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 4:45:14 PM   
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In general, experts say not to introduce transient relationships to your children, because they experience time differently. Even 8 months seems like forever when it's a sizeable portion of your life. The fact that he's raising his grandchildren indicates that the children have something complicating their lives.

My advice is to print your post and give it to him. I certainly think that you should remind him about your birthday if you will be hurt if he forgets it. If he still doesn't mark the day, you'll have your answer. It could be that he's dealing with his own set of complications and baggage, just like you have yours.

Be prepared for an answer you don't like, but better to get that answer now, while it's still early, than later on. And don't completely rule out the possibility that he's married.

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 5:11:16 PM   
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Ohhh... and let's not forget that you said you're running from an abusive relationship - one so bad you felt the need to hightail it out ot town before the guy got out of jail. Your Master has family to protect and like it or not, right now, you're high risk when it comes to that.

On top of THAT, within 8 months of meeting this guy, you packed up all your belongs and moved to be in his back yard so to speak. You can say "honestly" over and over again and it still doesn't erase the suspicion that just perhaps the fact that he was indeed in that town had a LOT to do with why you moved there.

And just perhaps the reason that dominants seem to treat you like meat is... because you have no personal boundaries for yourself. You made the choice to get involved with the man who is now in prison for abusing you. Instead of being cautious with the next guy, within 8 months of meeting the next guy, you've moved to where you are nearer to him (regardless of why you SAY you moved there.) AND are wondering why you aren't meeting his family.

As someone who ALSO made the choice to be involved with an abuser long ago, I gotta tell you, the stuff you're pulling makes me darn nervous...and I don't even KNOW you. I'd be keeping you at arm's length as well. For a long long while. And nothing you would be able to DO would change that. IF I ever let you meet my family, it'd be when I was ready - not just cause you did what you were told.

In other words, give it time. And quite trying to push your way into his family life. If it's mean to happen, it'll happen soon enough. And if it's not... well, it won't.

juliet

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 6:36:00 PM   
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So what did he say when you asked him about all your concerns?

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RE: Why after 8 months can't I meet the family - 7/30/2008 7:23:44 PM   
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i've dated men for a couple of years before they ever got to meet my son.  it's not necessary for them to meet my family, nor vice-versa; we are not married, we are not living together, it is a relationship between the two of us, not our kids, not our parents, etc. end if story.

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