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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 6:38:01 AM

patwi

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Speaking out of total ignorance here but...

What exactly does one do to "earn" leather? 50 lashes for a vest? 100 for a cap? Is it tallied in hours of public play? Who decides who is deserving of leather? Is there a board of directors? Judges? An observation commitee? I am for some reason picturing a referee in assless chaps, tossing a penalty flag and blowing a whistle.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 7:08:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam
The really indepth ones vary from region to region, country to country. At this point, there's no way anyone can remember them all. I say go with the original, adding a few more that seem essential these days such as Daddy/boy (which can also mean Mommy/girl and any other 'parentel' type relationship), bootblack and blood play.

If I've got my sources right, this is the original hanky code:
Gray - bondage
Black - SM (heavy)
Red - Fisting
Yellow - Watersports
Dark Blue - Anal Sex (thought, often seen as sex now that the Hets, Lesbians and Bis are involved)

In the US, left is top, right is bottom...in Europe, it's the opposite. I think these should be added:
Daddy/boy - Forest/Hunter green
Lt blue - oral sex
Olive - military
One for blood play but red's already taken.
Leather - leather

That makes 10, which is about the limit of the human memory when it comes to learning a list of like items quickly.

Master Fire

You can check out these two sites - probably need a few more colors in the spectrum after all of these are taken. (I especially like mosquito netting!)
http://members.aol.com/OfficerJim/hankycodes.html and http://www.the-px.com/flagging.htm .

Then of course, there's always white carried in the breast pocket of a suit jacket for "I sneeze a lot."

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

D.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 10:47:02 AM

Archer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: patwi

Speaking out of total ignorance here but...

What exactly does one do to "earn" leather? 50 lashes for a vest? 100 for a cap? Is it tallied in hours of public play? Who decides who is deserving of leather? Is there a board of directors? Judges? An observation commitee? I am for some reason picturing a referee in assless chaps, tossing a penalty flag and blowing a whistle.

There is no universal system for earning leather only a tradition that leather is earned and given as a recognition of growth.
Historicly the few references available do talk about a series of progressively more intense scenes (Guy Baldwin Drummer magazine #151 from memory)
But there are other stories available as well where the real requirement wasn't the scene itself but rather the growth displayed by participating in the scene)
There are also stories about leathers and club patches being earned through service to the club. (see motocycle club pledge/ prosects)

Generally, but not universally, I have found a vest is earned through a consistant long term display of commitment to the local leather club/ community/ leather family. It is generally awarded by someone who's been around longer than the person getting the vest who has taken notice of how much work the person gives to seeing that the community thrives.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 11:55:49 AM

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lol. well here in Michigan orange is "Anything Goes" or sometimes meaning "hearing impaired" As told by a gay Dom in a class last winter.

A leather forum on here or another site would be great. I am not leather, but there are alot of leather aspects that I am interested in.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 5:39:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DavidS8ist

You can check out these two sites - probably need a few more colors in the spectrum after all of these are taken. (I especially like mosquito netting!)
http://members.aol.com/OfficerJim/hankycodes.html and http://www.the-px.com/flagging.htm .

Yes, I'm aware of the long lists. The longer you make the list, the harder it is to memorize and the more often you get mixed colors. My point was to narrow it down to the "big kinks" and create a much shorter list. The Gay Leathermen had the original...but it doesn't encompass things that are big for LBTs and hets. Making a list of 10-12 items that we could make worldy universal was my point.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 10:11:06 PM

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I like the idea of the short list to be distributed between the Intl Leather communities. I'll get in touch with Intl Leather Boy, and Intl Leather Sir, and see if We cant sit down and get a small working list going and they can take it to the other Title Holders and see if we cant get an agrement...or something. Sounds like this girls gonna go have a beer with the family

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/6/2008 10:47:57 PM

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You might be surprised how many leather folk are about.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 3:37:32 AM

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I always am, I'll be walking around town and see someone with an OML pin or....yaknow randomness like that and it just gives me a giggle

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 4:01:25 AM

MasterFireMaam

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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

I always am, I'll be walking around town and see someone with an OML pin or....yaknow randomness like that and it just gives me a giggle

Or keys hanging from their front pocket. I'm always flagging left, keys out, in everyday life. Left = Top, out = looking for play partner. Sadly, no one seems to get it. LOL

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 4:05:18 AM

Sunnyfey

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lmao I still get a giggle about the way the hot topic goth kids lace their boots! I just wanna walk up to them and tell them what it means in some circles. Or the gangbangers sporting hankeys........especially the more "evil" colores we have.

"hey kid, your sporting that nice yellow hanky in your left pocket"
"yeah and?"
"You know in some circles that means your a gay submissive looking for someone to pee on you?"

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 7:00:58 AM

MasterFireMaam

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Oooo...say more about boot laces....

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 10:57:23 AM

azropedntied

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My heart is Leather , I am in the community but wish i was able to do more , yet i do what i can when i can .
fey i so want that on tape someone asking a gang banger is they want pee play or blood play , latin kings sport yellow .
One quote among many in this thread i dig is you dont have to wear leathers to be leather , so great ! I would also like to add , i had not seen a couple of people for a very VERY long time 10+ years as they are a distance away , yet i recently spent some time with them and you really know what Leather is when you just pick right up .Archer and Master Fire are much better at the explaining than i am , you too Fey , but humbly and proudly i try and be and live the best leather i can .With honor and respect enjoy the journey .

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 1:06:50 PM

Sunnyfey

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aawww we loves ya sharky dear

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 2:58:00 PM

azropedntied

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smiles warmly thank you very much ..

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 3:46:57 PM

spinninsweetness

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This is all really interesting to me- I mean all I know of 'leather' as a concept is the Leather Family who I've seen do demos and workshops around various events.

Definately something to get more interested in

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 7:07:13 PM

LadyPact

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

I always am, I'll be walking around town and see someone with an OML pin or....yaknow randomness like that and it just gives me a giggle

Or keys hanging from their front pocket. I'm always flagging left, keys out, in everyday life. Left = Top, out = looking for play partner. Sadly, no one seems to get it. LOL

Master Fire

LOL. I was starting to wonder if I was the only person still doing that.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 7:50:57 PM

HarryVanWinkle

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam
There's an implied code of conduct...an implied history...and implied tribe.Yet, I know people who I consider 'Leather' who don't even WEAR leather. They're Victorian. Go figure.

It's not just about a leather fetish, which is about the only point on which I think most will agree.

Master Fire

I almost never wear leather. (In Arizona in the summer? Ugh.) I'm definitely not Victorian. I definitely DO however, consider myself to be "Leather" and am an active member of the local community.

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 9:38:15 PM

DreamyLadySnow

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Ya I don't do the hanky code. If someone wants to know what I am into, they can always ask and I'd be happy to show them (smiles sweetly)...heh heh.

LS

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/7/2008 10:57:11 PM

Sunnyfey

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I adore my hankey code, sometimes if its a good day and I feel cheeky, my black hankies goes in my right pocket as I wander around town, If I feel SUPER cheeky I'll let the leather girl patch show on my purse......*hasent earned her vest yet*

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RE: Leather Community on CM? - 8/8/2008 8:47:03 AM

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I've never been entirely clear about this term; does 'Leather Community' refer to gay men into BDSM? Or to sadists of all stripes? Or what?

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