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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 7:59:16 AM   
truesub4u


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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

The truth as I see it...
"True or Real" is a state of one's own's mind or imagination.
Whether that fit's someone elses "Truth or Realness" is another thought once again.

Imagination can take you to places unreal and truth can stop you in your path.
Then again imagination can take you to your truth and truth can give you the courage to go forward.
The irony of life can really blow your mind sometimes!

*Brightspot




I have to agree with brightspot on this. There was another thread bout what annoys people on here. And Irshmist made mention of those claiming to be "true" etc.... LOL I state it was a spur of the moment screen name to come up with.

But it was really how I DID feel about myself at the time. Little did I know at the time, I was far from actually being what others would consider real. I was real in the way I was feeling about myself. I was real in knowing what I felt I knew at the time. (Ok so alot has change since then. And after meeting alot of folks on here, I found that maybe I wasn't as true as I thought )

But just about 2 months later, I once again feel myself being a true. I'm true to myself and what I know of myself I'm true to those that I talk to. I believe this in myself. Not everyone is consider me to be true at anything I do or say. Ok, life goes on from there.

But as far as KOM's OP. I can't spot a true or real from a fake on this computer. I've been suckered more times than I care to admit to. But luckily I've caught the suckering before any real time meets have accured. I'm suspicious by nature, but even ones like me can be fooled. I think the world thus far of a few on here. KOM, his girls, Candy, Irishmist, to name a few. And that just from thier posting on this forum. I've never talked one on one with them. And probably never will. But it's the way they conduct themselves that help me decide if I ever would.

Granted i've conducted myself in a stupid manner when I first got on collarme. But I learned from that. And seen that this wasn't just another one of those wanna be sites. I feel I found a home here. With others just as I am. Real and true to themselves. Yes there are still the "Players" out there even on here. But really, on here, they've been easier to spot than on some other sites i've visited.

So all though some may dislike my screen name because is states "true" and some may think i'm not true. Life will go on. Because for me... I am true.. I am true to myself. And I'm true too the one I serve... an that is all that really matters when it's all said and done.

KOM... great post. ..... now I'm going to go read some more of the responces.


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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 8:15:47 AM   
truesub4u


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ORIGINAL: Rover

If none of their local lifestyle communities know them, and can provide a reference for them, their "experience" is likely a falsehood.


In any regard, your advice to get off the computer is well founded. The best place to meet genuine lifestylers is not a stranger from the computer, it's a known member of your local lifestyle community.
John[/font]


Not everyone can or wants to be member of a "local lifestyle community." I not a member of any in my area. One reason being the respectable ones are too far away. I only heard of a more locally one about 2 weeks ago. I went to check it out. It was a dump. I felt I could catch a STD walking into the joint. What I seen in there was a joke. All it was ..... was a public orgy going on. The booze and drugs where all over the place, and I left before I stood the chance of going to jail.

So not all that are not in local community are fakes. (BTW I have seen more than 1 profile claiming to be part of Communities, that they've never heard of... LOL)

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 10:10:32 AM   
amayos


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Status: offline 		A good post.

While it is true much is to be left to discussion regarding technique and personal philosophy, I can certainly say there are signs of sincerity and authenticity in a submissive or dominant. I make use of terms such as 'sincere' or 'authentic' or 'real' due to the fact there are so many game players and time wasters out there. I think your tendency to see an increase in the use of these words as disclaimer support in profiles might indicate an awareness in the rise of novice and/or deceitful individuals regularly coming on to and in interacting with the scene.

Green flags to me are generally the following (and they must all be present on the rare occasion I intend to actually meet a submissive):

• Intelligence
• Robust eagerness to please
• Proper tone and inflections in spoken voice
• Open mind
• Imagination
• Inherent understanding of sensuality
• Good health (no STDs), and a report to prove it
• Ability to shed societal based fears and social programming
• Usually not a creature of the broader "kink culture"
• General compatibility
• A pleasure to converse with
• Not stubborn in any form
• Obedient, once I begin mental training
• Willingness to provide personal information
• Ability to see my attention as something special
• Does not confuse my kindness with weakness
• Took the time to read any of my on-line profiles and fully understands me
• Had the initiative and courage to contact me first

Of course, there are other more abstract "flags", but the ones above are the basics for me.

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 10:56:27 AM   
sunfleur


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Status: offline 		wow, what a great topic. sure has seemed to spark a lot of conversation.
i too have seen a lot of references to "real" "true" Doms and subs and quotes telling us that some one is VERY submissive or Dominant. i've been asked "how submissive are you?" to which i usually reply "how Dominant are you?"

is there some BDSM ruler i'm not aware of in which to measure these things? i've never seen one.

me thinks that the only way.. if you feel the need to.. measure another person, is by getting to know them. there's no quickie way of doing that. it's simple. take the time.

sunfleur

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 3:20:21 PM   
Petruchio


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quote:

What amuses me is people talking about "real time." Online chat is "real time," but non-computer people seem to fail to realize that.
Hint: Look up "batch processing."


But then my eye caught "bitch processing" in the dictionary…

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 3:36:57 PM   
JohnWarren


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Petruchio

Ho! John Warren. You're a dangerous computer man.


Just ancient. Not many started programming on an Altair.

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 3:58:16 PM   
Gomez


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Status: offline 		I would simply say that I am who I am and if someone else see's that as being "true"/"false", then that is their choice.

As for being "real or not", I will say the same thing. I am who I am. I am a real person with feelings and thoughts. Probably Brightspot summed it up the best way to answer the question.
quote:

Brightspot
"True or Real" is a state of one's own's mind or imagination.
Whether that fit's someone elses "Truth or Realness" is another thought once again.


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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 3:58:46 PM   
Sensualips


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Status: offline 		My grandpa had an Altair I used play on as a kid. No keyboard, giant floppy disks, and lots of flashing lights.

Eventually he upgraded to a Commodore 64. I really got a lot of use out of that bad boy.

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:10:00 PM   
FionaFineass


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Status: offline 		I am real. Or am I imagining it.

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:20:04 PM   
JohnWarren


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sensualips

My grandpa had an Altair I used play on as a kid. No keyboard, giant floppy disks, and lots of flashing lights.

Eventually he upgraded to a Commodore 64. I really got a lot of use out of that bad boy.


OK, now I feel old!

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:26:44 PM   
Gomez


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Status: offline 		Your only as old as you feel John!!

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:28:10 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

OK, now I feel old!


Everytime I start to feel old... well reach over and feel one of my girls... I find I feel young again after that *G*

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:34:01 PM   
Gomez


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Status: offline 		As for me, I just look at the ladies walking through my foyer....makes me feel like a teen again

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 4:58:53 PM   
Petruchio


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quote:

Your only as old as you feel John!!


How he feels or who he feels?

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 5:07:28 PM   
LadiesBladewing


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Status: offline 		*chuckles*I remember (some fondly, some much less so) some experience with punch-cards, and foreign languages like FORTRAN or COBOL or BASIC, and mainframes, and errors in programs that didn't show up until the earlier punch-card errors had been corrected... and running batches 7 or 8 times over -days- to get all the glitches out of an assigned program!

Those were the days!
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

What amuses me is people talking about "real time." Online chat is "real time," but non-computer people seem to fail to realize that.

Hint: Look up "batch processing."



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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 9:44:33 PM   
Petruchio


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Status: offline 		Many of those old mainframes are still running, while we have programs from Microsoft in India and I have to keep rebooting… rebooting…

PROGRAM CHECK 0042 LOCATION 12CAA00…

bzzzzzzzttt phooooooop!

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 9:55:49 PM   
Gomez


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Status: offline 		How old John feels on the inside.....but can also include who he is feeling!!

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 10:23:23 PM   
JohnWarren


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gomez

How old John feels on the inside.....but can also include who he is feeling!!


And who is feeling back.

Funny age story: Janet Hardy came into my area and I was driving her around to presentations. At one a lovely woman came up and asked Janet to play with her. Janet's response was something like, "I wouldn't feel comfortable playing with someone young enough to be my daughter." Of course, I piped up and said, "I don't have any children" and gave the young lady my best leer.

Janet's loss; my gain

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/4/2006 10:30:14 PM   
KidIcarus


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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

I count people as "real" when I can see, touch, taste, hear, and smell them (1,2,3,4,5, yep, that's all 5 senses ). Otherwise they are just another possibly crazy nut on the other end of the computer..........


I second that.

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RE: Real/True Statements - 1/5/2006 5:47:03 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u
All it was ..... was a public orgy going on.

Considering at Dark Odyssey there WERE several public orgies going on throughout the weekend, I'm not sure why you consider that a bad thing.

Some people LIKE their kink to be dirty and raunchy and sexual. Some people LIKE their kink to be clean and sanitized and flowy and all about the toys.

If a certain environment isn't for you, that's great. But their version of kink is no more or less acceptable than yours.

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