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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 7:03:37 PM

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Slightly off topic, but I was watching IFC last night, and came across a documentary on Larry Flynt... "The Right to Be Left Alone." Really cool stuff, all on this very topic, about the hypocrisy in government. (Both right and left.)

But as I said, the real problem is the fact that monogamy is NOT the "one true way" of humanity. Or at least, there's lots of room for variation. Unfortunately, our society has been built up into an inhumane, absolutist notion about what "fidelity" is all about.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:00:58 PM

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When I first heard the rumor I thought "Surely he's not so stupid." He is.

I don't care who people fuck. I don't pass judgment on this sort of thing because I don't have a right to. However this is America, and Americans care who their leaders are fucking. And the idea that he thought he could run for President with this hanging over him and no one would find out is completely ludicrous.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:16:36 PM

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I just smacked my forehead when I saw this headline earlier. I hope his wife has a really strong support system outside of her husband.

(This isn't directed at you raveonette, it just recants a well worded sentiment on here about situations like this and I just wanted to quote it for reference)

You know.. maybe she understood. When one is sick and on meds that make you feel ill a lot.. sometimes you understand another person's needs more than your own. She may have even mentioned he should take of "business". Let's say that is the underlying story... he did and kept it to himself.. I know I would not want to know. He said that he didn't love the woman he fucked.. it was just sex. The older one gets, the more perspectives change.at was "gasp! that HEEL!" becomes.. "it's their business... not mine." Maybe she took pity on him and let him on a longer leash. I know if I were in that situation..I would. Many relationships fail because one or the other has a death grip on the throat of the other. He wasn't looking to leave her..just to get some probably much needed relief.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:22:29 PM

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And the idea that he thought he could run for President with this hanging over him and no one would find out is completely ludicrous.

Sadly, the notion of leadership in our society has gotten to the point where someone who is incapable of grasping the consequences of their actions, often rises to the top levels.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:25:17 PM

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The fact that sexual inclinations of anyone is of any sort of interest mystifys me.

Hey, Mr Garbage can pick up man? Do you want your dick sucked and woul;d you like to drive this here brand new cadillac?

There is little question that while fretting over the WMD in Iraq a president shouldn't be gitting his dick sucked, but; had he been getting his dick sucked, would he have went searching for 'possible' WMD in I raq?

I just don't think so, sorry.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:39:48 PM

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Who's fucking whom is none of our business.

We do not know what the "rules" are in the relationship between the Senator and his wife.

Yes, he lied about something that is nobody's fucking business. What did people expect him to say, "Sure I nailed her!"

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:41:15 PM

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You'd make a poor newspaper editor....

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:51:39 PM

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but a hell of a politician...

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 8:52:23 PM

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Well, think about it ... what was he supposed to say?

Had he said that his personal life was nobody's business, the media would have just treated that like a confession of guilt ... followed by a wave of accusations that would carry equal "guilt" by lack of defacto denial.

The Senator's wife has not been accused of lying to anyone. She insists she forgave him. I'm willing to accept her word.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:05:00 PM

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I think this is a known and factored into anyone`s considerations when running for office.

As unfair as it seems,officials work under a double standard.Some call it a higher standard, but that`s still a double standard.

Every person serving from POTUS to dog catcher should know this going in and adjust,not complain when caught.How tacky.

If he was supper open and said he was poly,that the wife was ok with it and was ready to serve,would he get anywhere?

Nope.Can`t live a lie, either.

He`ll be ok.No need to feel sorry for him.He`s been blessed many times over.

Pray for his wife.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:08:41 PM

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Oh dear, another political celebrity is imperfect.

The fucking sky is falling.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:23:08 PM

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He denied fathering a daughter, born to the woman with whom he had the affair, and offered to be tested to prove it. A former Edwards campaign staff member professes to be the father.

Damn, how many people on the staff was the girl banging? I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. After all, why would a married man need a $400 haircut?

Actually, there is some proof that this married finance guy, couldn't be the father, he was located in South Carolina, while the woman was traveling with Edwards everywhere to capture video.

The finance guy was tasked with taking care of the woman (possibly keeping her quiet), which he did by brining his own wife and children over for regular dinners... something doesn't add up, if you know what I mean.

It's a shame. I at least thought Edwards was a cut above the rest, when it came to his family.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:23:34 PM

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Oh dear, another political celebrity is imperfect.

The fucking sky is falling.

If I could get caitlyn to suck my dick, I would take on the New York Times, wearing a blue dress, with cum stains on it. smoking a cigar, and tell them what is 'is'.
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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:27:53 PM

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Oh dear, another political celebrity is imperfect.

The fucking sky is falling.

If I could get caitlyn to suck my dick, I would take on the New York Times, wearing a blue dress, with cum stains on it. smoking a cigar, and tell them what is 'is'.
Ron

Quite the visual there

I think the issue here isn't even the sex or the baby (while some will focus on that), the question being raised now is whether campaign money was used to silence the woman.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:41:48 PM

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I think I'm pretty much in the minority on this, but who cares who they f*ck, as long as they can do the bloody job? We already know that "honest politician" is an oxymoron. (I have my doubts that Edwards could do the job, even as VP -- but it has nothing to do with whether or not he's screwed every nether point of either gender in all of DC...)

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 9:56:27 PM

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I don't give a rat's ass what people do in the bedroom, as long as they are not fucking ME without my consent.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 10:07:20 PM

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He denied fathering a daughter, born to the woman with whom he had the affair, and offered to be tested to prove it. A former Edwards campaign staff member professes to be the father.

Damn, how many people on the staff was the girl banging? I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. After all, why would a married man need a $400 haircut?

Actually, there is some proof that this married finance guy, couldn't be the father, he was located in South Carolina, while the woman was traveling with Edwards everywhere to capture video.

The finance guy was tasked with taking care of the woman (possibly keeping her quiet), which he did by brining his own wife and children over for regular dinners... something doesn't add up, if you know what I mean.

It's a shame. I at least thought Edwards was a cut above the rest, when it came to his family.

Ahh,the wacky right radio, penetrates the discussion.

Do you let anyone other than Savage,Rush and Hannity, think for you?

I can hear them on the radio myself, without your rebroadcast.

What is this "proof",.... you speak of?

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 10:35:46 PM

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He denied fathering a daughter, born to the woman with whom he had the affair, and offered to be tested to prove it. A former Edwards campaign staff member professes to be the father.

Damn, how many people on the staff was the girl banging? I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. After all, why would a married man need a $400 haircut?

Actually, there is some proof that this married finance guy, couldn't be the father, he was located in South Carolina, while the woman was traveling with Edwards everywhere to capture video.

The finance guy was tasked with taking care of the woman (possibly keeping her quiet), which he did by brining his own wife and children over for regular dinners... something doesn't add up, if you know what I mean.

It's a shame. I at least thought Edwards was a cut above the rest, when it came to his family.

Ahh,the wacky right radio, penetrates the discussion.

Do you let anyone other than Savage,Rush and Hannity, think for you?

I can hear them on the radio myself, without your rebroadcast.

What is this "proof",.... you speak of?

Actually I don't listen to any of those radio shows. Nice try though. Again the old "baffle em with bullshit" approach.

I saw an interview with the reporter who broke the story, in which he laid out the timeline. He also discussed how the legal teams of all the parties involved presented the denials, the lawyers tried the ploy of our clients would provide affidavits, that when asked for the legally sworn affidavits, the parties balked.

This was the newest story on the matter... and the one that forced the DNC to call Edwards on the issue Thursday, which I believe is what prompted the admission on Friday.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_child_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193

Honestly, I could care less if there are wild swinger play parties going on, or who is doint what to who. Like I said in my previous post, I was a bit disappointed to find out that these allegations were true, because I believed that Edwards was above reproach when it came to his marriage.

Although, I should not expect that would have seen that. So out of curiosity, where do you get your news and talking points?

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 10:50:31 PM

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From figures like this, (even if they are just in the ballpark) I would say that pure monogomy is something of a chimera... a myth.

I agree with you about monogamy being a myth...I have been monogamous my entire life but then again not many people trip my trigger, so it's rather easy for me. What I would LOVE to know is how many of these people who are jumping on Edwards about the affair have cheated themselves. My guess would be at least half.

I don't really care about his affair, just like I didn't care about Clinton's blow job. That's a matter for the people in that relationship to deal with. About the only time I care is when they are the really judgmental holier than thou religious types...and even then I only care long enough to make a note that they are a hypocrite.

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RE: John Edwards admits to affair - 8/8/2008 11:14:39 PM

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Oh geez Ron! That's a mental image I am going to have to rinse out of my head.

I am always distantly perplexed at the American obsession of heterosexual monogamy and familial bliss as a prerequisite of political office.

Roman Empire = slaves, courtesans, concubines, multiple wives
European nobility = slaves, courtesans, concubines, multiple wives
Rock n Roll royalty = groupies, hos, gold diggers, multiple wives

Notice a pattern here?

Bastards born "on the wrong side of the heets" inhereting some benefits but not all unless they were the only heir, particularly if male.

I could write pages of examples but in the end, I just don't care about a person's private (sex) life in general unless they are part of mine.

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Oh dear, another political celebrity is imperfect.

The fucking sky is falling.

If I could get caitlyn to suck my dick, I would take on the New York Times, wearing a blue dress, with cum stains on it. smoking a cigar, and tell them what is 'is'.
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