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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 4:22:21 PM

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Aneirin, hell if I know!

Most likely testosterone and strong competitive urges? And then there is all the sports memorabilia and betting and doing the wave

while painting your team's colors on your body, in 20F winter weather and shwoing the world your hairy beer gut on wide screen TV.

I mean, what's up with that?

Can watching sports on the TV or in person be entertaining?

It depends on the event, the participants, the weather and my mood.

If they have cute cheerleaders I am more likely to tune in to watch.

And as a nation, most of us could stand less time on the couch with the remote or in front of the computer and more time outside exercising

or at least some creative "indoor sports".

Pay per view optional.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 4:51:36 PM

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Yeah, what is it about men and sport, I just don't get it ?

Within male society it is a big leveller. Within a club, you don't have to be richer or whatever to rise and be appreciated. You gain status and recognition. As spectators, men can put aside their class divisions and unite collegially. Sport is a socially cohesive mechanism.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 7:40:09 PM

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Well, I have never really felt the need to prove myself better than another via a sporting achievement, if I do sport, and I was good at rugby, fencing and field sports at one time, but as soon as it got competitive, I just switched off. Perhaps it is that I do not need to compete to prove myself is the reason why I do not understand why sport is such a big thing with the world.

So what do I do for physical fitness, well I walk a lot and around here there are some serious hills, I dance and do Iyengar yoga, I am not at the peak of physical fitness, but I can hold my own and move well. Dinghy sailing is coming, that is when I fix the boat and back packing very soon. All individual activities where the only dependence I have is on myself.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 9:35:28 PM

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So what do I do for physical fitness, well I walk a lot and around here there are some serious hills, I dance and do Iyengar yoga, I am not at the peak of physical fitness, but I can hold my own and move well. Dinghy sailing is coming, that is when I fix the boat and back packing very soon. All individual activities where the only dependence I have is on myself.

Well, some folks are joiners, love the team mentality and get along well. Others, like yourself, are better at more solitary activities. Could be that the joiners love playing and then getting together to watch games played in a social atmosphere complete with beer, chips and peanuts. Some guys like to bet on games. Some guys feel the 'glory days' of their youth still in their blood and by being diehard fans feel more connected to their youth.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 10:30:58 PM

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I watch sports and I'm most definitely female. I taught my lil one the basics of baseball & hockey. Yes I play center in a women's hockey league. (don't mess with a sub with sharp skates & a big stick) I also watch football, wrote a college paper on 1969, the ideal sports year in NY. I prefer the winter games as I love the hockey, downhill skiing, jumping, & curling. I watch curling, and love it.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/10/2008 11:21:38 PM

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its not only men that watch sports...sports is not gender specific.

For me, its all about the graceful nature of athleticism, the spirit of competition as an inner-dynamic of man and, the comrodorie sports brings to the table.

In the immortal words of my homie Stuart Scott :

You've got ''watchers'', ''playas''......and then of course '' playa haters '' - Be a ''playa''

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 6:00:01 AM

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Not all sports are competative. Plus activities like pot holing and mountaineering are thought of as sport. Yoga etc are exercise and could be considered a sport. Cycling, walking - all these are sports activities.
Now tell me you don't 'get it'.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:23:50 AM

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Mostly it's the testosterone.

I don't care for sports either. I've mentioned on other threads that I don't much care for NASCAR, the NFL, baseball or basketball. About the most sport I've watched in over a year was the women's olympic volleyball yesterday. (and that was for entirely different reasons) I consider the time, money and effort expended on sports in this country to be a total waste. Those billions of dollars could be used much better elsewhere.

Now, if they ever had an official sex olympics, I think I might just become a fan...

Okay we get it you don't like sports,but your statement that the money and effort expended on sports is a waste would seem to be contradicted by TV ratings and the attendance figures from sporting events around the country.Not sure you want to be depriving all those people of something they/we enjoy because you don't "get it".I for one mark the seasons by what sport I am watching,there just isn't enough quality porn to replace my sports....

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 10:17:55 AM

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And I don't think that "Tennis" is a "sport."
It's kind of like "Polo."

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 10:19:38 AM

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Since when isn't tennis or polo a sport? How do you define it?

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 1:20:34 PM

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I really shouldn't use fast reply because my thoughts run deep on these matters of psychology. But so what.

I think it is a social thing. You make the team, you get picked. It is all a throwback from earlier times when Men would actually have duels over a fair Maiden. Of course some Women like sports, but to us it is like an inate thing.

I actually like some sports, but I quit watching because of what it has turned into. Much better to participate. Now if a friend has a son in a football game in HS, I coud be persuaded to go watch, as long as they have beer or at least I can bring some in. You don't watch football without beer. Now there's something I really can't explain, but it is true. Even non drinkers will have a beer watching a football game.

A football game also has the side effect of helping teach Women how to cook outside on a grill :-) We ain't doing it DAMN, it is third down Woman, just put the meat on the fire. We don't care whether it is ashes or raw, or both. As long as the beer is cold.

Kidding aside though, life used to be a contest. Women were chosen for certain reasons which I do not want to explore at this time, but Men were chosen for other reasons. Men were chosen for their ability to hunt, trap and protect the family. That is how it was, and this propensity is I guess a throwback to those days. The contest, of any kind, proves who is the strongest and fastest.

Some watch it to live vicariously through the players, others bet on the outcome, and this is to prove their superior knowledge of the sport and the players. For example I like to bet on horse races, but I am not a horse. In fact when I do, I don't even watch the actual race. All I care is about the winners. But some watch the race enthusiastically, get binoculars and everything.

But can we define sport ? How many Women have regular poker games, and I mean with real money ? Lots of Men do. It seems Women are just not into it. But it is a contest just the same. I must admit to a certain amount of elation when I beat Jim Watt, when I pulled three of a kind out of the hole which matched one of my up cards in a game of seven card stud. This gave me four of a kind and they were threes I think, but it beat his very strong full house.

There was about two hundred in the pot, and even though it was all mine now, there was something more. Winning. The money almost didn't mean a thing.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 3:24:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Paulnz

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Yeah, what is it about men and sport, I just don't get it ?

Within male society it is a big leveller. Within a club, you don't have to be richer or whatever to rise and be appreciated. You gain status and recognition. As spectators, men can put aside their class divisions and unite collegially. Sport is a socially cohesive mechanism.

I think this is a major part of men's attraction to sport. Not only is it a bonding mechanism, but sports also give men a language for communicating with one another, something that (here's comes a gross generalization, I admit) we tend to be less good at than women are.

I think professional, organized sports also provide a certain amount of common ground for people from a city or region to bond. Everyone in New England can talk to one another about the Red Sox, for instance, something that has been true since long before their recent run of success and is not at all specific to men... my grandmother was a die-hard Sox fan her whole life until she died in her 90s.

For those who are "students of the game", so to speak, there's also an appreciation of the strength and skill of the athletes involved. There's also the basic appeal to peoples' competitive instincts, however vicarious it may be.

That said, playing sports is almost always better than watching sports, at least for me.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 6:02:49 PM

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Not all sports are competative. Plus activities like pot holing and mountaineering are thought of as sport. Yoga etc are exercise and could be considered a sport. Cycling, walking - all these are sports activities.
Now tell me you don't 'get it'.

the.dark.

I think what it is, is competition, I don't need it, I don't need to compete with another to prove my worth or gain admiration as another's admiration of me for what I can do is really of no consequence, if they wish to like me, then they may do so for myself as a person. Yes, I have done mountaineering, furthermore, I am qualified as a mountain leader with the MLTB, qualified to take parties of people into hazardous terrain. I am also a qualified Canoeing instructor and a potholing instructor. All from a time when I was more active in the 'dangerous' activities, a time when I treated the danger as a possibility if poor preparation and action were employed.

Sport to me implies competition, I see what I do as exploration, an activity where I am wholy dependnt upon myself and my training for my very life and in the case of leading others, they are dependent on me as I am myself. I used to be a big follower of what we called pioneering, which I believe is now called bushcraft, I am able to hunt, trap, kill and cook wild things and live from the land. All skills of our ancestors as a means of daily existence. I do not see sport as a reflection or training for these abilities. Perhaps it is, the best in the field of sportspeople would fail at the prospect of living beyond the supermarket, sport is not existence, sport is an activity for fun, a friendly game between people for no more than the fun of it.

I do yoga and dance for fun, it is also exercise and has benefits besides, but they are not sports. Backpacking soon, and even potholing again as my sister is rounding up my old equipment, although I think my electron ladders, ropes and hardware are long gone, the problems with having family taking an interest in climbing,that and my ice climbing gear, but what can one expect after an eighteen absence.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:09:02 PM

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I don't get sports and I don't feel any desire to exercise in any form....never have. I was quite active in high school and college as a function of the social setting I was in, and less so in my married life, and less so in my professional life, and now even less so as a retiree....and I have come to the unhappy realization that it really is 'use it or lose it' and that I must force myself to find some means of MOVING my body that I can tolerate and will repeat....and yet competitive?

In certain arenas of my life, o hell yes. Especially when I was working...I'd damned near kill myself to win a case, which I very often did, and never could understand the other lawyers around me, to whom going home at 5 o'clock was more important than shoving my client's decisions down the throat of some silk-stocking firm from DC or NYC or SF......part of it was the client's decision would affect the lives of the elderly or the poor, and I admit I had a rescurer thing going on...but there's no doubt whatsoever part of it was the sheer joy of beating 6 guys from Havard with 100 more years combined trial experience than I had.

I am not sure why I never got the joy of physical activity that so many other people lay claim to....I just know it's never been there. Like a blank spot...I just do not get sports and PT and the like. I remember working with a woman in Florida who had taken up cave diving -- a very excellent way to off yourself if you're not 100% correct in your calculations -- and wondering what the f**k would make someone risk their life that way.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:19:51 PM

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(He) I don't watch sports, I am a book worm.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:20:54 PM

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I personally HATE watching sports on TV. I guess it's more of the passive, couch potato mentality that I hate. I would much rather have an active role, whether it is playing a sports video game, or actually out with friends playing. On the other hand, I also LOVE going to actual sports events. This is moreso to do with the enviroment and the energy which can only be found at these. Best way to look at it: think of the difference between watching a concert on television or dvd, and actually being at the live event. Completely different feel.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:25:37 PM

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Not me, bring on the books, video games, and kinky sex, keep your watching guys throw around a ball, or throwing around said ball kthx :D

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 9:49:50 PM

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whoa. don't get me started. for the most part it's the only thing worth tuning into on TV. well that and American Idol.

Basically watching sports is like watching the ultimate chess game.But with LIVE players. And not only that, it is both a physical and mental chess game. Now these are games we all grew up playing and idolizing and dreaming about. We know what is easy to do on the field and what acts are amazing. Thus,(I can't believe I just dropped a thus on you) we like to watch in love and appreciation of the games we played for YEARS. Many of us from the ages of 8 years old to18, 23 and so on. There is also more aspects to it, but I won't go into minute details because it will take a while and yea I'm watching the Olympics. If you'd like though we can discuss it further if you send me an email. Thanks and goodnight.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/11/2008 10:13:30 PM

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Men should limit playing with thier little balls to the bedroom.

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RE: What is it about men and sport ? - 8/12/2008 1:08:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Yeah, what is it about men and sport, I just don't get it ?

Within male society it is a big leveller. Within a club, you don't have to be richer or whatever to rise and be appreciated. You gain status and recognition. As spectators, men can put aside their class divisions and unite collegially. Sport is a socially cohesive mechanism.

I think this is a major part of men's attraction to sport. Not only is it a bonding mechanism, but sports also give men a language for communicating with one another, something that (here's comes a gross generalization, I admit) we tend to be less good at than women are.

Agreed, and I can think of personal examples where men couldn't get along with one another or communicate effectively until they went and played a team sport together.

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