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ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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ORIGINAL: ShreveportMaster

FR,
Jeff Gordon is a racist, so is Dale Jr. How do I know? Because they make their living racing! After all, if one makes their living in the arts, they are an artist, if in the sciences, they are a scientist...Hence all NASCAR drivers are racists.
Ethnicity, Race, or whatever the hell else you want to call what color wrapper people come in is part of life, but it's carried to extremes on all sides by waaayyyyyyy too many pee-pul. An example, almost no one thinks it odd, or unusual that the NAACP or LULAC exists, or that there is a Black History month to honor the contributions of folks like George Washington Carver, or  Fredrick Douglas, No one finds it unusual that there are scholarships set up that you must be of a certain ethnic background to qualify for. Almost no one considers those ideas "racist". BUT, if someone were to set up the National Association for the Advancement of White People, or the United Anglo College fund,  or celebrate White History month
That MUST be racist......

Perhaps you could contribute to your white history month notion by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc? 

After all, you were assuming ceteris parabus, right?

First, Black History month is not "everything that was wrong about slavery and the Jim Crow era month. "  Most black folks I know (and having spent the last 4 years in Shreveport, I know a LOT) will be the first ones to point out the contributions of people like Carver (who happens to be one of My personal heroes) MLK, and other luminaries to America as a whole, not specifically in regards to their work just on behalf of other black people during the War. or establishing equal voting rights, etc. I have no more problem with this than I do with St. Paddy's day parades, or enjoying a Cinco de Mayo celebration. (which is a big deal in Texas)
La Raza has scholarships that you must be of Mexican or Latin American descent to qualify for, yet I've never seen in the history books where generations of Mexicans were held in chattel slavery.  But I don't see anyone loudly denouncing them, or the practice of gathering money, primarily from people of that ethnic background, to disburse to young people of the same ethnic background to obtain higher education.
Last I checked, Equal Rights, meant exactly that, the same rights for EVERYBODY.  Nobody is denying that slavery happened, or that it was wrong, or that the Jim Crow era occurred, and was equally wrong. No one that I am aware of is suggesting those things be forgotten. I can't speak for others, but I'm not suggesting that Black History month be done away with, BUT if you want to be perfectly fair and equal there should also be White History month, NAAWP, UACF, and the other things mentioned. If it's wrong for white people, it's wrong for blacks, asians, latino's etc. To say otherwise is to become a NASCAR driver [8D]

                              I wish you well,
                                                      Shreve

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
...  by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc?

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

So it is. Are you playing the 'moral relativism' card? [:D]  

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
...  by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc?

American women only got the vote in 1920, fifty-two years after African American men.
 
We still have slaves in this country ... of all races, but mostly white children. Go look on the boulevard of broken dreams in any American city, and you will find them.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
And you are claiming that black Americans caused that to happen to white people exactly how, again?

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Well, thank you for changing your response from dishonest, to disingenouse.
 
Both are incorrect though. I clipped this question:

"Perhaps you could contribute to your white history month notion by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc?"

Because I'm not a person looking to contribute to a white history month ... and for no other reason.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Perhaps you could contribute to your white history month notion by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc? 

After all, you were assuming ceteris parabus, right?

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Well, thank you for changing your response from dishonest, to disingenouse.
 
Both are incorrect though. I clipped this question:

"Perhaps you could contribute to your white history month notion by linking to some credible sources on all the generations of white Americans held in chattel slavery? Or denied the right to vote, etc?"

Because I'm not a person looking to contribute to a white history month ... and for no other reason.

And nobody is falling for you editing several words out of my posts to change the meaning, (essentially creating a forgery), simply because you repeat it.

The crux of my question was about pretending that black people could be held to the same standard as whites while ignoring the fact that all things were not equal.  i.e. blacks didn't oppress the white race in America as slaves and under Jim Crow for hundreds of years.

Deleting the 'all things being equal' part to alter that is your doing, and not at all honest.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Looks the same to me. Where were the words missing that you say? I just removed Shreve's part of the post.