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masterforRT -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:50:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

(reply to Missokyst)

I read your profile. It explains a lot. There are more "I"s in there then any other profile I think I've seen before. Perhaps you should explain what you have to offer rather then telling people everything you expect from them.

Your cynicism and strong wall building shuts you off from a lot of good people here who deserve better then your attitude about them.


RT you provide a very interesting example of the type of behaviour that led me down the thought path that created this thread. Thank you.



And many of you here couldn't buy a clue with a thousand dollar bill!

You're welcome.




CruelDesires -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:52:51 PM)

*Coughs*

C-D




sirsholly -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:54:09 PM)

Keep your thousand dollar bill, hon...i'll give you a clue for free. Respect is EARNED. You do NOT have my respect just because you call yourself a Dom.




LaTigresse -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:54:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

And many of you here couldn't buy a clue with a thousand dollar bill!

You're welcome.


Oui, you are correct. Then again, many of us do not need to.




Missokyst -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:55:41 PM)

heh... honey you just have to bat your eyes and pull my head back...
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

If I flex my Ubor-mussels and give you the Ubor-look and turn on my Ubor-charm, would you change your mind Missokyst? [;)]

C-D




Missokyst -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:58:20 PM)

I would comment on yours, if I had been interested enough to read it.  However just the "position" premise removed any thought of wanting to know more.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT

(reply to Missokyst)

I read your profile. It explains a lot. There are more "I"s in there then any other profile I think I've seen before. Perhaps you should explain what you have to offer rather then telling people everything you expect from them.

Your cynicism and strong wall building shuts you off from a lot of good people here who deserve better then your attitude about them.




tammystarm -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 12:58:35 PM)

jesus not to get on to anyones thread here, and sorry holly must seem as if im following you i swear im not,  but in my own opinion which generally counts for shit   i think everyone deserves respect until proven otherwise, however cop a cocky attitude and its gone gone gone




KatyLied -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:01:20 PM)

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You might not know or like a person, but if they ARE a Dom, then they deserve a certain respect for their POSITION!


What?  We are supposed to automatically respect any fool becuase he self-identifies as dom?  No thank you.  I can decide for myself who is worthy, regardless his/her self-imposed title.




RCdc -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:03:23 PM)

My question to RT is - how does insulting or attacking an individual or group, or behaving in a condecending manner (percieved) gain respect, regardless of position?  An honest question really.
 
the.dark.




stef -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:07:02 PM)

He's not being insulting, he's proving his dominance and that he is worthy of your respect.

~stef




sirsholly -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:07:48 PM)

[sm=bowdown.gif]




Missokyst -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:08:47 PM)

Oops.. maybe I should have swooned?
Dang.. cant seem to get those reactions down in time anymore.  I need to tighten down this corset a bit more.
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: stef

He's not being insulting, he's proving his dominance and that he is worthy of your respect.

~stef





CruelDesires -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:09:51 PM)

Tighten it down till your eyeballs pop out.

C-D




AquaticSub -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:10:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

Here's my take on it:

I dislike George W. Bush. I think he's the worst President in 100 years.  That said, he DID get elected the most powerful man in the world-twice.

Though I don't like or respect the MAN, I DO respect his POSITION. Do you see the difference?  The POSITION of President has to be respected.

Same for D/s.

You might not know or like a person, but if they ARE a Dom, then they deserve a certain respect for their POSITION!

Sometimes you just have to give people the benefit of the doubt.

If you can't do that, how can D/s work?

And, YES experience, time and wisdom factor into the equation. Look, I don't care what anyone says-for the most part if you take a group of people, the ones that have put the most time into something simply know the most about it. This applies over the gamut from D/s to auto mechanics.  Are there exceptions? Of course!  A musical prodigy would be one. There are people who have relatively little musical experience that can play music better then those with 50 years experience. But these are an EXCEPTION to the rule-the rule still holds sound.

Does the reverse hold true as well? Of course. I've seen people here who have posted 3500+  times-and (obviously) don't have a single clue what BDSM is about. But again, this is an exeption to the rule.


It works very simply.

I respect those who deserve respect and everyone, owner or otherwise has to earn it. Firemen get automatic respect. Police get get automatic respect. Those with third degree black belts, a PhD or MD, etc have proven that they can pass a series of easily agreed on and rigid expectations and they deserve respect.

To claim to be a dominant you just have to do that: Claim you are one. I will not automatically assume this means anything deserving of respect. I have a great deal of respect for those who have worked hard and have attained considerable skill, both in play and in the everyday of their relationships. I have a great deal of respect for people like Master Fire and John Warren who have managed to publish their views on relationships and BDSM.

Now I will be polite until shown that I will not be treated politely, but that is a far cry from actual respect. I'd suggest you not worry about proving yourself to everyone because not everyone needs to respect you. If you are so intent on having everyone respect you, you probably won't get much anyway. If you are worthy of respect than simply being yourself will get it, with no need to flash titles around.




Missokyst -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:14:36 PM)

Oh heck.  Its supposed to be my eyeballs popping out? [sm=bust.gif]  I knew it was two things, but once the boobies pop out I cant see anymore anyway.
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

Tighten it down till your eyeballs pop out.

C-D




CruelDesires -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:18:25 PM)

Iv'e heard that some of the new corsets come with a wheel barrow attachment for that reason.

C-D




sirsholly -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:19:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

Iv'e heard that some of the new corsets come with a wheel barrow attachment for that reason.

C-D

to haul around your eyeballs?




AquaticSub -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:20:19 PM)

A bucket might be more useful for catching drool.




Missokyst -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:22:33 PM)

[:D]




RCdc -> RE: Age + Experience = Respect??? No...I don't think so Vern. (8/12/2008 1:25:38 PM)

Well, I was kind of hoping RT might answer himself.
I get that people might be offended and even a little perturbed by his reaction and response - I am genuinly interested whether he sees rudeness or abruptness as a way of gaining respect.
Ego gains respect, at least from me.  I find it kind of attractive.  But I don't see how a dominant(or s-types) being insulting gains respect or even earns it.
 
the.dark.




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