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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/13/2008 4:25:12 PM

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Not that I've ever watched anyone else play so far, but I would prefer to watch the second scene described. For me, it's all about the connection between the two involved in the scene. That's what would make it interesting to observe.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/13/2008 4:33:28 PM

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Neither one sounds very interesting to me, although it's not quite clear what's really happening in the second one. The first is simply bogus, phony play, and that doesn't appeal to me at all. The second sounds like a sadist and a masochist, although it's hard to tell without more detail. That doesn't appeal to me either, the skilled top dishing out exactly what the experienced bottom wants. There might be more going on that would make the second interesting, but if it's just one person dishing out pain and the other willingly taking it, then it does nothing for me.

from what I know of the second couple, its a heavy Sadist playing with a slave, but not a masochistic slave.

I am facinated watching power exchange in play, I would have been watching the interplay between what what could submit to, and what the other could dish out. Watching a heavy masochist playing with a heavy Sadist is technically interesting because of the skill in maintaing severity without causing harm or damage, but if there is no power interplay then it never gets more than technically interesting.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/13/2008 4:37:39 PM

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I have seen a scene rather like the first - a lot of noise and sighing from the sub and barely a blush to her skin. Uninteresting to watch , even though it looked like a scripted dance. The few time the dom caught her in a painful spot and she reacted with a yap, he stopped immediately to check on her. I indulge in painful play and that is what i want to see if i am out in public.

I really like to watch intense play - to the point of bruises and a bit of blood. The second one would have me watching for the fun of it. I have been in that situation, and have even giggled during it, but not for long - lol. I am interested in how others play, comparing it to the way my Sir and i play. I like the differences in play style.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/13/2008 4:42:51 PM

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I'd have to watch the seconed scene, just for the fact its..(and i cant believe no one mentioned this before) It's a RESPECT thing, I respect heavy sceners, I respect the bottom for takeing and glorying in that type of play, and the Top for being artistic with it. I dont care if its a play scene with the most respected sub and Master in the effin world, if the scene sucks....it fucking sucks. Top/bottom Master/slave Dom/sub........none of it really matters if theres not a connection.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/14/2008 5:54:11 AM

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I'd have to watch the seconed scene, just for the fact its..(and i cant believe no one mentioned this before) It's a RESPECT thing, I respect heavy sceners, I respect the bottom for takeing and glorying in that type of play, and the Top for being artistic with it. I dont care if its a play scene with the most respected sub and Master in the effin world, if the scene sucks....it fucking sucks. Top/bottom Master/slave Dom/sub........none of it really matters if theres not a connection.

I had not even thought of the respect aspect. If i think about it yes i had a lot of respect for the second scene playing out and the people in it.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/14/2008 6:22:51 AM

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So... what if the sub wasn't being bratty, what if she was just enjoying herself? What if they were just new, and learning together? People tell all the newbies to "Get off the computer! Go find your local BDSM community!!" Yet when they do, they are met by sneering oldies, making fun of their lack of experience.

Way to go.

Sneering oldies lol
I actually agree with you about the "oldies" telling the "youngies" <lol> to get out and off their computer. I also said that I would be proud of such a couple who would risk the "sneers" of onlookers, so that they will gain more experience. Not all of us "Oldies" sneered. <s>

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/14/2008 6:34:52 AM

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The first is simply bogus, phony play, and that doesn't appeal to me at all.

I think that this is a bit harsh. Maybe being funny or giggling wasn't their intentions, but they were nervous and it came across that way. But to say that they were involved in a phony play, is not giving them much credit. I don't know the couple, I can only imagine how hard it must have been to be doing a public scene.
The first and only pubic scene I did with Brian, he was so nervous that he couldn't stop laughing. It was his way of coping. Even my belting him didn't stop him from being hysterical. Some people handle things differently than others. I would hate to think that our invited guests were disgusted by pup's total lack of concentration. I should hope that they understood that what he was doing was very difficult for him and he slipped into some other subspace to avoid thinking about it. I asked him several times if he wanted to stop, he said no. After the initial laughing fit, we settled down to some serious playing. It was not phony or "bogus" to us by any stretch of the imagination. I agree with those who said that it didn't appeal to them and moved on to the next scene. No sense in making the first couple feel any worse than they may have already been feeling.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 11:26:09 AM

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Maybe I am sounding too judgemental myself. I was just considering possibilities. I remember a really wicked scene at a party once with a pain slut type sub, a really wicked domme and a single tail whip. They were obviously connected. she knew what she was doing and he (because I knew him well) was up to really brutal play. To be honest, I would have watched the lighter scene in a heartbeat. Sometimes different styles of play are just that...different.

After all is said and done, I believe that you were not trying to be judgemental, but what one likes is what one prefers...

To each their own...

Thanks for creating a thread for me to first time post to! And for being considerate of my opinion!

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 11:50:44 AM

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The seond sence with out a second glance to the first....not because of the inexperience (though someone should be watching just on that fact alone, IMO) but for the brattiness....Master nor this slave enjoy bratiness....and the lack of connection...thats the kicker...any connection between two people (even people and animals) is a grand site...to watch a sled team in perfect harmony...or just an ideal conversation between two people...if there is a connection there it holds your attention ....enthrals you....well at least for this slave...she loves watching people...
a scene is a thing of cordiated beauty...we practice at it at home....and scene often at home as well as in public....thats how we improve our skills and learn new things about each other.
just this slaves two cents

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 11:57:56 AM

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I'd probably watch both because I'm a naturally curious person, but I would lose interest in the first one pretty quickly. It wouldn't be the force involved with the second that would hold my attention, but the dynamic of the couple performing it, like most here have said. It'd be the passion, the enjoyment, the comfort level they have with each other that would keep me watching more than anything. The first on would be easier to handle because it sounds a lot lighter than the second, but I personally prefer intensity. I get bored easily, can't help it. lol

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 11:58:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

So... what if the sub wasn't being bratty, what if she was just enjoying herself? What if they were just new, and learning together? People tell all the newbies to "Get off the computer! Go find your local BDSM community!!" Yet when they do, they are met by sneering oldies, making fun of their lack of experience.
Way to go.

If she wasnt enjoying herself then why was she still involved in the scene?
Learning has nothing to do with Bratty....when We go out and see an inexperienced couple or person...We watch...maybe to help them with advice (We travel, do blade demos and teach.) or give them encouragement to "playon" try new things and get some experience....the scene discribed by OP may have been a new couple but the only reason this slave would not watch is a personal pereference...she doesnt enjoy brats...but if the girl was not being bratty ...then maybe...we can always learn something new...:)

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 2:32:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

I'd have to watch the seconed scene, just for the fact its..(and i cant believe no one mentioned this before) It's a RESPECT thing, I respect heavy sceners, I respect the bottom for takeing and glorying in that type of play, and the Top for being artistic with it. I dont care if its a play scene with the most respected sub and Master in the effin world, if the scene sucks....it fucking sucks. Top/bottom Master/slave Dom/sub........none of it really matters if theres not a connection.

I had not even thought of the respect aspect. If i think about it yes i had a lot of respect for the second scene playing out and the people in it.

Yeah its a big thing for me when it comes to public play, I am an exhibitionist/voyure, and really you have to admit 90% of people at a fetish show are one or the other or both, so if they have the respect to watch my scenes, I should ahve the respect to watch them, BUT if they dont show us the voyures respect by...actually makeing the scene worth watching, they why should I respect them by watching. Its a weird give take thing, and yes I understand newbies need ing to learn and be showen and such and maybe the Master and sub were actually talanted and knew what was going on, but...and especially if they are talanted and they give you a crappy show? well then they dident respect any of the watches enough did they? Thats jsut my POV as always YMMV

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 2:57:37 PM

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We are all projecting our experiences into the two "different" scenes

While I am interested in heavy play I often find those most focused on it are in fact focused more on the heavy part than the connection part.

I started out very much as a "fluffy" dom but even back then I never played with anyone I didn't have a connection with and still don't. I often get comments from people who see the intense connection between myself and a partner.

First time BSB and I played in public, to anyone else I am sure it was VERY fluffy but it sure as hell wasn't for her, it was her first time doing public play as my submissive. I was pushing her over HER edge and dangling her there, we were BOTH surfing the edge. Last time we played in public, the connection was so intense people were not sure even what to say, they just stood there with their mouths open. It sure as hell wasn't the intensity of play that did that but the connection her and I share.

I have yet to play very dark or very sadistically in public, I tend to keep that private, partly by chance, partly out of fear of judgment that my "intense" isn't! I will get there but I am no hurry, I am still enjoying the journey.

Not only that but you can't always look at a scene and see how intense it is, sure she could be screaming but she might ALWAYS scream, she might process what looks like intense pain more easily that someone else for whom those "few" clamps might have her close to a safeword.
The reason I tend to dismiss things like flogging, suspension, and single tails is they TEND to be used as "edge" play by people who I see as having little if any connection to anyone but their audience. Again, that is MY perception and I know there are exceptions.

I guess what my long winded attempt is trying to say is I love edge play if the couple is searching for THEIR edge but if the goal is to simply be "edgier" than others, it bores the fuck out of me!

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 3:33:59 PM

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First time BSB and I played in public, to anyone else I am sure it was VERY fluffy but it sure as hell wasn't for her, it was her first time doing public play as my submissive. I was pushing her over HER edge and dangling her there, we were BOTH surfing the edge. Last time we played in public, the connection was so intense people were not sure even what to say, they just stood there with their mouths open.

(they had their mouths open? I think mine was open further than all of them! You just couldn't see from that angle! LOL)

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 3:37:58 PM

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I almost equate the two different scenes to that of porn and video such as that from kink.com. Porn - bdsm porn - to me is more acting than "real". The sub seldom gets more than a blush on his/her skin, and there is a lot of role playing and bad acting. The video form kink.com comes with bruises, welts and sometimes tears. In other words, it is more real, in that the impact play is actually impact.

There are people that regular bdsm porn does it for them, and that is great for them, and then there are people that it does absolutely nothing for. They (me) need real.

There were two different types of scenes- and which one you prefer is just a preference. It doesn't make one good or bad, right or wrong - it just means that there is a preference.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 3:51:41 PM

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Without a doubt the second scene for the beauty that unfolds as the play becomes more intense. The trust factor, the marks being left in front of viewers eyes, and especially the connection would make this a *must see* for me. Obviously the Dom's skills and expertise would be a thing of beauty as well. I appreciate a truly inspiring scene where ever I am, but I have seen people who just cannot make themselves watch very intense scenes. One couple who were into very heavy play in public where critized and nearly asked not to come back to a club in NY, To each their own :)

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 3:59:42 PM

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greetings to all,

Neither. I'm just not "play" oriented.

I've spent a lot of time out and about in my local BDSM scene, and watched different people doing a lot of different things, and in the end, watching other people scening (in whichever way amuses them) just doesn't appeal to me. Each to their own though, if it makes someone happy to watch (or be watched), who am I to stop them?

I'd much rather (while on my knees at my Master's feet) watch a slave (whose Master isn't play oriented) bringing her Master/Sir/Other a drink (or other such "mundane" activity) and watch their interractions with each other. I find beauty and self fulfillment/advancement in the tiniest things.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 4:08:49 PM

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i would choose to opt out of watching either one to be quite honest with you. i'm such a scardy-cat that i can't even bear to watch someone come at me with a whip, flogger, cane, etc., yet i'm all game for being beat. now how strange is that?

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 5:40:48 PM

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I'm on a roll with the threads this week lol.

You have the choice of watching one of two scenes. The first is Dom and sub, he's obviously not all that good at what he does. There is no flair in his flogging, no real connection between the two people. Any blows inflicted are just warming the skin, you know when you go slightly red but no real marking. The sub is all giggly and behaving pretty bratty and you can see it's all about just getting off for her.

The second is a top and bottom with an obvious connection. The flogging is impressive, the single tailing beautiful to see. The two players are obviously completely in sync with each other, the play flows. The blows in this scene though are building up to be very heavy play, almost brutal.

Which scene would you watch and why?

I ask this because i watched two scenes as i have described on saturday night and most people in the club chose to watch the first. They seemed very dissaproving of the second scene. I don't understand it, the second scene was beautiful, the first nothing in comparison.

I was a novice (still am to most degrees), I'd flown a variety of people out to Vegas for a party from multiple parts of the country. A woman who many of you know was my guest.

All told there were probably 25 people in our room. An ex girlfriend was holding my hand, possibly she already knew this would be significant for me, maybe she just wanted to hold my hand.

My guest, a woman I was desperately in love with was beating a guy with a switch. I didn't see any blood, but after the first 4 or 5 impacts, it was difficult for me to watch. If I could describe his butt as "red"...it would be at best, a weak description.

Besides my guest, and the fellow that was getting his ass kicked, there were possibly 20 of us watching.

I winced every time I heard the wind crack around her switch.

They (several people had decided in advance) had put a ball gag in my mouth. Within minutes I'd chewed through it and broken it. I was at minimum, astounded at what I was experiencing.

I didn't understand what was happening. My white bread existence had absolutely changed forever...and we were only in the first few minutes.

When she was done, he had the biggest smile on his face I'd ever seen on a human in my life, he hugged her, I was intensely jealous...and I was shaking beyond any possible measure. I simply couldn't comprehend what I'd just seen.

Some talk in the room took place....several people were looking at me as if I were about to have a heart attack...I must have been purple...and honestly, I felt like someone had plugged me in to ConEdison and opted to see exactly just how much electricity I could handle.

A human being had just taken, right in front of me, more punishment than I'd ever taken as a teenage boy having had the shit kicked out of me because I'd tried to take the star football quarterbacks girlfriend...and I just couldn't grasp what had just occurred right in front of me.

And then, a gorgeous woman, shaped like every penthouse pinup I'd every seen, who'd just watched a true master at work...begged to be beaten. Pleaded.

My friend took out a 3 foot bamboo cane, tapered down to a whisper. The woman gently placed her hands on the window, and my friend...as beautiful in every way as the woman about to be punished...laid one in to her...a test.

The woman winced. A welt rapidly grew. And she politely and respectfully asked for another.

If I was shaking before....I was beginning to feel a volcano erupting.

Another came and fell.

More welts.

I was frightened.

Another....and another...and still another....and she was as respectful when asking for another as the first time.

Tears were rolling down my face....and I couldn't speak.

And then more followed....then more again...and still more.....

I'm not saying that I had difficulty coming up with anything intelligent to say or ask....I tried to talk....desperately I tried to scream....words flat out wouldn't come.

I had lost the ability to speak....I was incapable of human speech.

I was gasping for air at the very same time this woman was suddenly in love with my friend...it was as if someone had turned a faucet on....and I simply couldn't stop crying.

And then more again....and yes...there was blood.....

It was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen (and have since) in my life.

So....you've given me the option of two scenes....

I think my answer is fairly obvious....the only thing I'd add to that Missturbation is....

Thanks for bringing that back for me....it was incredible...she was incredible....and I'm ever so thankful it happened.

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RE: Which scene would you watch? - 8/15/2008 6:05:08 PM

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Which scene would you watch and why?

Neither.. becuase I would be busy playing

As a note... the scenes I enjoy watching are ones where I precieve they are having alot of fun... the skill level is irrelevant to me... the fun factor is what matters most!!!

kyra's posts make me smile consistently so i now know that her wit is appreciated at home....

On to the post....that is exactly my answer....i miss more shit than anyone i know...."Did you see so and so do such and such?"....my response is invariably, " no, my ass was in the air at that time...did you see we have a chip in the vinyl beneath the big spanking bench?"
i am making a concerted effort to watch more scenes when im out and about...but not if its going to interfere with my beatings. i am still collecting subfrenzy credits so i have to play as much as possible~insert smile~

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