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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 12/1/2005 11:15:04 AM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		Get up at five? I'd do it ina heartbeat, but it would require I go to bed by 9 at the -latest- every night.

I need 8 hours of sleep, for medical reasons, or I'm not cogent the next day. If I were to be told I'd need to survive on less than 8 hours of sleep -that- would be a dealbreaker, because I wouldn't be able to function. I wouldn't be of any use to anyone, not my -job- much less my partner.

Hoewver, if they just want me up at 5, and are willing to have me in bed by 9 (or as soon as I get home from work, basically) then that's nothing that would bother me.


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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 12/1/2005 4:17:55 PM   
trueshadow


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Status: offline 		Yeah, the slave is property, but property must be treated and handled correctly to perform well.

This slave would do it, but as others have mentioned, adequate sleep is necessary.

Otherwise it's abuse, not dominance.

BTW, I'd walk your dog w/ no questions asked.

A slave was created to serve. All orders should be obeyed, if they are logical and are not abusive.

I was interested that your slaves have the freedom to discuss things with you. That's healthy and realistic.

(BTW, if you have two slaves vying for you, I can't believe one or the other wouldn't promise anything to get you.)

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/16/2006 3:12:33 AM   
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[/quote]

Quite true! I refer to that type as a "Bratty Domme" and they are RIFE! I feel that 24/7 is a two way street. When My First servitor was laid up, ill or was exhausted, *I* got up, did the dishes, etc. I care for her and she for Me and we both take turns doing the nasty stuff. I would no more ask a 24/7 slave who is ill or hurt or tired to overwork than I would smash a diamond bracelet or throw paint on a matisse! 24/7 slaves, TRUE slaves, are valuable, wonderful people and worth EVERY second of a Domme's attention (and more!).

Lady Sonelle

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For an attitude like that i'd wake when ordered too (and i am very much a night person, my current life does not require me out of bed before noon even on a work day) i'd care for dogs (but i can't get rid of my cat). It does not sound to me that the people you spoke of understood what they were considering being involved in.

A slave to my mind does not have to loose thier own ideas and sense of self, but a slave DOES have to put pleaseing ther Master or Mistress on a very high priority, and please them well in order to earn the comfort and care that is a Masters responsibilty.


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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/16/2006 10:46:18 PM   
subtlesubie


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Status: offline 		24/7 huh? I could maybe manage that. Contingent on a few conditions.


1) six figure salary

2) company vehicle

3) weekends off

4) Thursday nights - Halo deathmatch parties with my neigborhood slave brothers

5) my own smoking hot female slave to help me

6) No 5 am dog walks (hard limit)



Now with that unpleasantness out of the way, I'd be happy to do it.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/16/2006 11:16:08 PM   
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So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?

What would YOU do for 24/7 enslavement?


It's really easy to be a submissive or slave when what's going on delights you. When it takes work, when you sweat for it, bleed for it or cry for it... when there are times you think your heart is going to break to go one more step because of it.. but you still do it, because you 'must' and not because you're told you must but because internally you just have too.. that's 24/7 to me.

There's only one deal breaker for me.. and that's being lied to. Anything else is trivial and I can deal with it. Diabetis, unemployment, death.. all those things you work through however hard it may be, just not lying. Sheesh.. walking the dog? If all lifes problems were so simple.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 8:33:20 AM   
seaturtle50


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Status: offline 		if i really wanted to decide for myself when i wished to rise in the morn, i would not begin the process of surrender to Her in the first place.

Without Her thoughtful guidance, i will never wake up at 5 am. Not on my own volition. ;-)

Should she wish me to determine my own wake-up time, based on the tasks of the day to be accomplished, i am of course capable. Should She know better for me, then the time is none of my business - save for my performing according to Her kind instructions, to the best of my ability. As an honor to Her.

i must say LadySonelle, Yours sounds like a well thought out training regimen, and will likely serve well to weed-out incompatibles and wanna-be's. Seems to me (as a novice) that its process also provides an excellent "reality-check" to Your potential submissive/slave.

Thank You for sharing.
michael

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 8:43:57 AM   
Wildfleurs


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

It's really easy to be a submissive or slave when what's going on delights you. When it takes work, when you sweat for it, bleed for it or cry for it... when there are times you think your heart is going to break to go one more step because of it.. but you still do it, because you 'must' and not because you're told you must but because internally you just have too.. that's 24/7 to me.


I agree with this, and I think a lot of times when people talk about submission its more about going with the flow. I consider what you described to be at the heart of submission (not that it always has to be difficult), though I personally never liked the term 24/7.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 10:18:14 AM   
greeneyes1962


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Status: offline 		well, right now i work swing shift. go to bed about 1am.
so a 5 am wake up time is an impossibility.

when a suitable day shift becomes available, i plan to switch.
that will mean waking up at 4am to get ready to be at work by
6am.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 5:41:51 PM   
doubleLeo


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Status: offline 		"If a Dom/me were to offer you a 23/7 lifetime slave position, what would you do to earn it?"

My presence is how I pay in kind.
My sincere efforts are how I show it.
I did not come to Him in perfection, I came to Him in completion.
He is not a prize to win, he is my world to explore.
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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 7:40:24 PM   
amayos


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

quote:

too bad dommes don't do that. most want everything on a silver platter.


I think a good one would.



Excellent point.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/17/2006 7:43:46 PM   
amayos


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle

...honey, a slave is whatever the Master or mistress SAYS s/he is!



Well spake.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/18/2006 10:21:30 AM   
BasW


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Status: offline 		This is what I teach my 24/7 female sub: it should be placed on a tile:

He is Master and I am slave. He is owner and I am owned.
He is to be pleased and I am to please. Why is this?
Because he is Master and I am slave.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/19/2006 6:59:43 AM   
MasterRobert1


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Status: offline 		Hey, you make the rules. If they want to belong to you, then they need to realize that.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/19/2006 9:45:30 AM   
veronicaofML


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Status: offline 		amayos<<<<<<<<<<,

if you are gonna quote

do it correctly

that's MY quote=======
go to page 1 here please// and i said please



The dominant had to do the work to win me over.
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too bad dommes don't do that. most want everything on a silver platter.

thanks





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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/26/2006 10:15:10 AM   
ownedandcollared


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Status: offline 		How about this one...why is it that you expect so much from your slaves? i'm a 24/7 slave, and i really didn't "earn" it, aside from my service prior. Besides which, it is YOUR job to take care of your slaves, which includes getting them to your house. To expect them
quote:

and finally that during the period of consideration they are to take lessons in massage, manicure, pedicure, chauffeur and waitservice training AND that from now on, they will get up at 5:00 AM each morning and go for a 20 minute walk.


i personally agree that its unfair. the relationship is supposed to be give-and-take. That seems to be all take. If they have jobs, then its highly unfair to make them take courses in all these things, at their own expence. If they have jobs, then they are busy enough.

And i would like to add, that i have been serving a strict Master, who i am very happy with and who takes care of me, for a very long time now. i am a 24/7 slave. i take care of the animals...though nothing will drag me out of bed at 5am, mostly because i'm up at 2 so that Master can be up intime for work. i clean, cook, have a stable but demanding job, and am a full time student. i would do anything for my Master, but He assumes all responsibility for me, and He paid for me to move here to be with Him, and feels that that is His job alone.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/31/2006 9:33:36 AM   
cloudboy


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ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared

How about this one...why is it that you expect so much from your slaves? i'm a 24/7 slave, and i really didn't "earn" it, aside from my service prior. Besides which, it is YOUR job to take care of your slaves, which includes getting them to your house. To expect them
quote:

and finally that during the period of consideration they are to take lessons in massage, manicure, pedicure, chauffeur and waitservice training AND that from now on, they will get up at 5:00 AM each morning and go for a 20 minute walk.


i personally agree that its unfair. the relationship is supposed to be give-and-take. That seems to be all take.


Such wisdom from a 19 year old!! I think you've offered concrete proof that we only get dumber with age. Some domme's here have elevated exploitation into an art form. The question is, is there a sustainable yin to their yang?

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/31/2006 9:58:32 AM   
veronicaofML


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Status: offline 		I think you've offered concrete proof that we only get dumber with age
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whoa hey bro

hold on a minute

oh lawdy son

i hope i am a bit...wiser than i was..back when i was but nigh on 14 year old...
getting dumber with age? not unless i got me a touch of that old timer's disease?....
i aint never claimed to be the brightest candle burning...but i hope i am still able to shed some light some where once in awhile?



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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/31/2006 10:29:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedandcollared

How about this one...why is it that you expect so much from your slaves? i'm a 24/7 slave, and i really didn't "earn" it, aside from my service prior. Besides which, it is YOUR job to take care of your slaves, which includes getting them to your house. To expect them
quote:

and finally that during the period of consideration they are to take lessons in massage, manicure, pedicure, chauffeur and waitservice training AND that from now on, they will get up at 5:00 AM each morning and go for a 20 minute walk.


i personally agree that its unfair. the relationship is supposed to be give-and-take. That seems to be all take.


Such wisdom from a 19 year old!! I think you've offered concrete proof that we only get dumber with age. Some domme's here have elevated exploitation into an art form. The question is, is there a sustainable yin to their yang?



A topic near and dear to My heart---yes the boy will on occasion get up at 5--because I want the closeness of him before the darkness gives way to the dawn--

smiles...

I agree--in My world, we have rules, but we have give and take, based on real life schedules and a real life---then we have O/our rules, there is give and take there too-hell if he is sick, I'm not rousting him out of bed to serve My needs---I am a Domina, but far from a PrimaDonna--but then by many here I would not be defined as a Domme--but again as we have said before in other posts, there are many variations on a theme.

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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/31/2006 10:40:01 AM   
veronicaofML


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Status: offline 		because I want the closeness of him before the darkness gives way to the dawn--
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"just call me angel of the mornin, babe eeee, just touch my cheek before ya leave me,"


hmmmmmmm

if i ever heard anything sounding so romantic........sigh



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RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? - 1/31/2006 3:00:08 PM   
kinkypup


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If a Dom/me were to offer you a 23/7 lifetime slave position, what would you do to earn it


I think questions like this are very individual to each relationship. When a slave or submissive is meeting a potential Dom/me they should always be polite and respectful and demonstrate thier sincerity about who/what they are. That says, they don't give total trust or obedience to everyone right off either. A Dom/me on the other hand has to show the slave/sub both what they offer and what kind of Dom/me they are. This is our version of the "mating dance".

So my answer in short is, would i get up at 5:00am? If i knew the Dom/me was someone i wanted to serve, and the order wasn't harmful to my life - ie: i worked nights, etc... - then i would do anything to please them - pleasing them and showing that trust and surrender is what gives me what creates that wonderful energy inside that makes this lifestyle worthwhile...

- pup

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