GreyDragon1952
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Before we start congratulating ourselves (as a species) on our compassion and altruism, maybe we need to keep a few things in mind. We are the only species that has ever dared to assume that the earth was made for *us*. When the primary method of subsistance as hunter/gatherers started shifting to totalitarian agriculture we started killing this planet. A feat no other species ever even dreamed, or was even capable, of.
Every living creature on this planet is a part of the Community of Life. This community existed long before we darkened the Earth's door with our evolved presence and it functioned perfectly well for many thousands of years without our guiding hand on the tiller. The community was goverened by a law which Daniel Quinn refers to as the 'Law of Limited Competition', or the 'Law of Life'. The Readers' Digest version of this law states "you may compete to the full extent of your capabilities, but you may not hunt down competitors or destroy their food or deny them access to food. In other words, you may compete but you may not wage war."
Guess how many species don't adhere to this law? I'll give you a hint, you can count them on one finger.
How can we even begin to delude ourselves by claiming nobility and superiority over animals when we are the ones that will be responsible for the death of all animals, including ourselves, unless things change in a damn hurry? I'm just not seeing it.
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functioned perfectly well for many thousands of years without our guiding hand on the tiller.
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delude ourselves by claiming nobility
I don't claim nobility, but I'm not about to give up the edge we have on the rest of the animal kingdom.
You should have made that millions or even billons of years, and guess what? Should it happen it would get along long after we are gone! We can do a lot of things to the planet, put some dents in it, it and maybe even make it unfit for life, as we know it. But I hardly think we will destroy the planet. So you! your what some might call a tree hugger, or animal rights advocate, as a child some might call what we are doing is playing with our food and not eating it, letting it go to waste. You seen far too many of those cute animal films where they looks so fuzzy and warm and cute, not the parts that were edited out where they go after the young or the weak and kill them to eat.
Ok you can say they just kill to eat. So that makes them better than people?
I always get a kick out people that think animals are more important that people, that we are bad because we can think about what we are eating and killing. that we can kill more than we need. People like you will make a pet out anything and then turn around and abuse it keeping it in some environment that is not where you would find them naturally. Or in freeing it when it has not learned the skills it needs to survive in the wilds. With you there is no winning people are bad and animls are good, I don't see where any of them worrying about us. There is nothing anyone can say or do to change your ideas about it. Forget about how we have learned to live healthier from animal research, forget about the fact that if you had too you could not grow enough food to feed your self or your family, using what you believe are safe for the environment ways. Okay so you come back and say there are too many people on the planet, just what is your idea to stop that? Do you have one? Will it be as fair to people, as you want the rest of us to be with animals? If you feel so strongly that your a threat to the animal kindom you have the rest of us permission to go. I have no problem being a threat to it. See ya wouldn't want to be ya.
And finally just what has this to do with the natural man and BDSM?
Give me a steak medium rare any day with a nice baked potato, with lots of real butter, and let use some non renewable resources while were at it, to bring it off the farm and to cook it.
Grey Dragon
In all fairness, these people help in keeping us from making some bad mistakes. I just wish they would relize that their answers are not any better.
Hows that for a hunter gather type? ug!
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