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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/27/2005 7:53:35 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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has the job of goverenor of californian, a wife that looks alot like teddy
Behave Ron, I like Maria, she just needs to put on 30 pounds and she'll look like a woman again who isn't miserable and sick. M

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/27/2005 7:57:24 PM   
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ummmmmmmm.. not to get cranky, but vacuuous has two u's...isn't that special?

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/27/2005 8:04:34 PM   
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ummmmmmmm.. not to get cranky, but vacuuous has two u's...isn't that special?

LMAO,
Ron


Ron, you're cool, but spelling is definitely not your 'thang'. Vacuous does indeed have two u's. Only two and not next to each other.

Carry on. *goosesteps off to join his grammar/spelling nazi buddies*

Bob

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/27/2005 8:10:57 PM   
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Yep.......I stand corrected....., a horse who has four legs stumbles once in awhile, why not I who only have one tongue?

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/28/2005 9:23:29 PM   
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Everyone's taking this so personally. Look.. I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE!

If you took it that way, I appologize. And trust me, I know there are alot of people out there that have an interest in BBW. I don't, and state so in my journal. I'm not rude to people that message me, and originally posted this line simply to spark a discussion about it. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Hahaha..

It's not new to have larger women attracted to me, I guess it's something about simply being EXTREMELY tall. I don't know. But diet alone can keep people at a healthy weight. Those that were offended by my 'STFU' joke.. it was a joke. Pointed at a previous comment that had told me to 'STFU'. I think it's a silly saying personally.

This string might make it seem as if I have some rediculous idea of beauty, and I assure you that I don't. I've dated very attractive people, and people that weren't as good looking. I've learned alot from every relationship I've ever been in. Also, from all the friends I've had. Alot of people that are insecure about their looks end up being extremely well rounded people, and those that are pre-occupied end up being shallow.

I don't want anyone to think that I'm pre-occupied with looks. I've simply found that in the last few years as I've become more and more active, I've been far happier. Even when I was unhealthy I was never THAT unhealthy. It just was a matter of not eatting snacks and going to the gym three times a week.

Simply, before I started SERIOUSLY looking for a real relationship I decided to better myself. In all aspects of life, it's important to better yourself so that you might be who you REALLY intend to be. I've just recently had a few insights that I'm going to have to work on. No one's perfect, and no one should expect them to be. If anyone thinks that's what my post was about, they took it wrong. Or maybe I made it seem that way.

Ok! *EDIT* EVERYONE BE HAPPY WITH HOW THEY ARE! BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE AS HEALTHY AS YOU CAN! IT WILL ENRICH YOUR LIFE!

God damn it! I have nothing but love for everyone that posts on my threads, they make me think. Even you angry people, thank you. =p

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/28/2005 11:48:56 PM   
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I remember thinking I knew everything at 19.

That was only a few years ago. I bless my stars that I realized by the age of 21 that I don't know shit.


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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 5:36:11 AM   
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I remember thinking I knew everything at 19.

That was only a few years ago. I bless my stars that I realized by the age of 21 that I don't know shit.


The age changes but people in general don't.

"When I was sixteen I could not believe how stupid my old man was. When I turned twenty one I was amazed how much he had learned in five years." - Mark Twain

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 6:15:19 AM   
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The age changes but people in general don't.


Interesting comment.

I find that people can be somewhat inflexible in terms of their bad habits, but I otherwise find them to be very dynamic. I have, of course, seen people change even their bad habits. People gain knowledge, wisdom, patience, and many other attributes with time. So again, I see that as examples of change and growth - people are neither static nor do they stagnate. I can see where some traits - esp. desirable ones - are often retained by many people as useful characteristics. But these are most often traits we build upon and so they are subject to change also.

I don't think it's a mere war of words problem here. The idea that people do not change doesn't seem very useful to me. I think it runs counter to the experiences that many of us have in all aspects of our lives.



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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 6:47:02 AM   
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Yeah, I agree with Chaingang here. People can and do change. I'll add that it may not always be for the better. Some begin as righteous young people and end up on BDSM boards perverted like all of us.

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 7:43:59 AM   
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eons ago, a wise submissive told Me--the body is a shell and nothing more--how many times do we buy candy or cookies and greedily eat out the filling?--a person is no different, it is the spirit, the soul, the heart and the mind that one falls in love with--I would be greatly concerned about one who is so focused on the shell---I would feel I was a hmm trophy rather than a real person---

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 11:00:10 AM   
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I guess the most ironic thing, is that according to his profile...for his height, the OP is 30-50lb overweight.

Self-loathing, methinks.

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 11:11:34 AM   
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Let me preface I don't agree with the OP's method of trying to get his message across regarding the need for a healthy lifestyle, and care for self. Many people that have a new found healthy lifestyle, lost weight, or taken on exercise as if it's all a new found religion, tend to want to share "their way" with others. They want to preach about all the great changes they have experienced. Problem is...others don't want to hear it...just like I don't appreciate someone knocking on my front door to tell me about God on Saturday morning, when I'm still in bed. I believe I understand some of the OP's intent, and his personal preference too...just not his way of expressing himself, with regards to it all.

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eons ago, a wise submissive told Me--the body is a shell and nothing more--how many times do we buy candy or cookies and greedily eat out the filling?--a person is no different, it is the spirit, the soul, the heart and the mind that one falls in love with--I would be greatly concerned about one who is so focused on the shell---I would feel I was a hmm trophy rather than a real person---


But see...here's the other thing....if one doesn't care for that "shell," and maintain it with the greatest of care (i.e. good healthy habits), there's no "shell" to hold that "spirit," "soul," "heart and mind."

I personally worked to make life changes that helped change my spirit....and my thoughts...and the body changes were just a bonus. I'm not gonna shove that down someone's throat, but I might be more drawn to someone that shares my interest...BDSM wise....AND health wise.

K

PS And just FYI, if I had the choice between, say two relatively healthy men that are both 6ft. tall, and one weighs 160 lbs and the other 300 lbs...I'd be attracted (physically) to the larger sized man. Just my preference...we all have them. I'd want either one to care about himself, and he has to do that before I could ever expect him to care about me.

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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 11:23:53 AM   
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Whoa! There's a lot of room between people letting themselves go, and not just giving a shit. I'm a BBW and damned well proud of it. I didn't "let myself go," I'm healthy as a horse, and I'll put my blood work against yours any time you like. I work in the medical field and have seen plenty of folks who did EVERYTHING right (low-fat diet, no drinking or smoking or drugs, daily exercise, yada yada yada) come in with everything from heart attacks to strokes to cancer. Conversely, my great-grandmother smoked 3 packs a day, had a glass of wine with dinner, ate a HIGH fat (read: fried) HIGH cholesterol diet, and rarely left sitting on her bed (smoking and crocheting and watching her soap operas except to putter in her garden a little in the mornings. She wasn't fat, and was never sick a day in her life until she keeled over at 95.

Now, letting yourself go, that's a whole different story. Back in my early days in BDSM when I was a submissive, I interviewed once with a Dom with whom I'd talked online at length and it seemed like it might be a good match. His clothes were wrinkled. He hadn't bathed, and smelled (bad). His teeth were GREEN and kinda fuzzy. While I realize there is someone for everyone, my instinctive reaction was ewwwwwwwwwwwww. Of course, we've already established that I am NOT a sub, but even so.... :( THAT is what I call, letting yourself go. And it has nothing to do with looking like a magazine cover, but much more to do with personal hygiene, and what that says about the person.

Anyway, just my two cents on the subject. Since it's my day off and I'm feeling voluble :)

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ORIGINAL: KurtGranz

Seriously, I'm really curious why it seems that alot of people let themselves go physically. A Dom should be respectable, and a sub should have something to really offer her Dom. That's just how it is. I might not be in the best shape out of anyone in the world, but I work out EVERY day at least a little. No one has to be that extreme, but they shouldn't just not give a shit.



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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 11:25:36 AM   
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Which just goes to show how little you DO know.

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It's not new to have larger women attracted to me, I guess it's something about simply being EXTREMELY tall. I don't know. But diet alone can keep people at a healthy weight.



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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 11:55:47 AM   
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Some begin as righteous young people and end up on BDSM boards perverted like all of us.

you say it like its a bad thing


And well said LM


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RE: Body Maintenance - 11/29/2005 4:06:20 PM   
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But diet alone can keep people at a healthy weight.


I'm going to comment on this ONE line from your post, from a medical perspective. Diet alone can keep SOME people at a healthy weight, but not all of them, and weight alone is not the most significant factor in sustained -health-.

If you've -ever in your life- worked out and built substantial muscle mass, diet alone will -never- keep you at a healthy weight again, unless you continue to exercise. If you stop exercising, your muscle mass will diminish, and your metabolism will slow (something that also happens automatically, as an individual ages, unless they exercise to offset the normal metabolic slowing of age). For some people, this slowing of the metabolism shows itself in things like loss of bone mass, thinning of skin and hair, and poor metabolism of materials that support things like the cartilage and bursal sacks in the joints. For others, especially those who have built considerable muscle mass, slowing metabolism results in adipose collection -- especially around the belly, chest and upper body (the most dangerous area for fat collection). In still another group, metabolic changes result in loss of organ mass and poor resiliency in things like the blood vessels, heart, lungs, and in reduced regeneration of the liver.

There is a point to doing everything you are willing to do to stay healthy, but obsessing about it isn't health producing. In fact, stressing about health and obsessing about fitness activities can actually be -counter productive-. Increased levels of cortisol are released during stress. Normally, exercise that is -enjoyed- will reduce cortisol levels in the bloodstream, but stressing about getting to the gym, working harder and longer, and the frustration of working hard at your body and still not getting the body you want will actually increase cortisol production -along with- increasing muscle mass, resulting in intramuscular fat (what is called "good marbling" when you're talking about steak) that will actually reduce lean-muscle mass in the body.

So... diet alone won't do the trick, and neither will stressing about whether you're working out enough or whether your workouts are going to make you look like Jill Ireland or The Rock -- and whether looking like that will get you a girlfriend/boyfriend or whether you're going to be alone for the rest of your life. Enjoy your life. If you hate it, get rid of it. If you love it, keep doing whatever you're doing.

LZ

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